Lilmama1011
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im on a quest to find when to stop in my stretch as well because my negrowth gets tangled after shampooing and trying to apply conditioner relaxer style, will use cleansing conditioner
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im on a quest to find when to stop in my stretch as well because my negrowth gets tangled after shampooing and trying to apply conditioner relaxer style, will use cleansing conditioner
pre_medicalrulz
It Always Been About Hair!
Uh huh NG stripped clean is not the business. Conditioner only is always best in my opinion.
Nix08
Relaxed, 4B
SuchaLady That the style I rock when deep into a stretch...sometimes I just claw clip the back.
divachyk I presume you don't manipulate your hair while shampoo'ing - even if my hair did that, as it has if I've used shampoo and say too much amla then I just let it air dry and finger detangle from the ends up as the hair dries. Which makes me think that the combination of products 'may' be your issue but I'm not certain
I wonder if getting ph strips would be a good idea for you to see what the ph of the products you are using are.
I don't wash/cowash in sections but I do keep my hair hanging down in the shower and physically turn my body while under the shower to let the pressure of the water wet my strands and also rinse my strands once I've added product. Seperating my strands from the root but not trying to detangle also prevents tangling and webbing.
Also key for me is detangling as my hair is drying but not forcing the issue meaning that my ends dry first so I seperate my ends. Then as the next few inches start to dry I detangle there, and continue as my hair dries. It's a slow process and I do it while doing other errands around the house. And when I say detangle, it's almost more of a seperating/fanning action then it's a running my fingers through.
Like the others said I also, don't shampoo much deep into a stretch or otherwise really but my hair does feel webbed after shampoo but then I do my cowash routine and it's all good again.
Sorry to be so long winded but for me it's technique and the technique is kinda hard to explain.
divachyk I presume you don't manipulate your hair while shampoo'ing - even if my hair did that, as it has if I've used shampoo and say too much amla then I just let it air dry and finger detangle from the ends up as the hair dries. Which makes me think that the combination of products 'may' be your issue but I'm not certain
I wonder if getting ph strips would be a good idea for you to see what the ph of the products you are using are.I don't wash/cowash in sections but I do keep my hair hanging down in the shower and physically turn my body while under the shower to let the pressure of the water wet my strands and also rinse my strands once I've added product. Seperating my strands from the root but not trying to detangle also prevents tangling and webbing.
Also key for me is detangling as my hair is drying but not forcing the issue meaning that my ends dry first so I seperate my ends. Then as the next few inches start to dry I detangle there, and continue as my hair dries. It's a slow process and I do it while doing other errands around the house. And when I say detangle, it's almost more of a seperating/fanning action then it's a running my fingers through.
Like the others said I also, don't shampoo much deep into a stretch or otherwise really but my hair does feel webbed after shampoo but then I do my cowash routine and it's all good again.
Sorry to be so long winded but for me it's technique and the technique is kinda hard to explain.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Another option I was lightly considering was relaxing annually but who wants to go the entire year like they are transitioning repeatedly? Im either going to be all the way natural (with a BKT)
or I am going to be all the way relaxed. I don't have time to be trying to do some exotical special type of relaxed head mess
Instead of a schedule, why not just relax when you feel like it. Im trying to do every 4 months because my next year goals are to reduce relaxing to 3 times a year from 4, but why not just relax when you feel you want to. I think your issue is you don't want to be committed to a schedule, you just want to do as you please. There is nothing wrong with that.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
pre_medicalrulz SuchaLady, I am going to look into those. I don't mind buns but for a year, I didn't have to use hair ties for that year too, but for the last few months, I can't get away with that because the buns fall. Im finding those right now!
divachyk,
where there is a will, there is a way. Ive learned that the same products I use before 8 weeks are not the same products I can use after 8 weeks.
-Specifically, deep conditioner conditioner.
-Diluting my shampoo has helped tremendously.
-I have conditioning cleansers that work really well on 11-12 weeks post hair. I bought Hair One which was the best IMO, but I also have DB CC which is not as good, but still good and more natural. I hate conditioner washing, but it does help soften the NG during a stretch.
-I like products that are kinda tailored for naturals as they are heavier and will keep the hair from tangling or matting.
-I don't really need to moisturize my NG as often as I use to when I was straighter, but the added texture does help stretching to be better and less demanding.
-Washing (cowashing) more often helps, but Im not sure that can be an option with you.
-Perhaps, try smoothing the hair with a rinse-out after washing and before deep conditioning.
You just may need to readjust your regimen and use different products during stretching.
divachyk,
where there is a will, there is a way. Ive learned that the same products I use before 8 weeks are not the same products I can use after 8 weeks.
-Specifically, deep conditioner conditioner.
-Diluting my shampoo has helped tremendously.
-I have conditioning cleansers that work really well on 11-12 weeks post hair. I bought Hair One which was the best IMO, but I also have DB CC which is not as good, but still good and more natural. I hate conditioner washing, but it does help soften the NG during a stretch.
-I like products that are kinda tailored for naturals as they are heavier and will keep the hair from tangling or matting.
-I don't really need to moisturize my NG as often as I use to when I was straighter, but the added texture does help stretching to be better and less demanding.
-Washing (cowashing) more often helps, but Im not sure that can be an option with you.
-Perhaps, try smoothing the hair with a rinse-out after washing and before deep conditioning.
You just may need to readjust your regimen and use different products during stretching.
FelaShrine
Well-Known Member
any relaxhead use Oyin'sz Hair Dew?
if so what are your thoughts?
Thanks!
if so what are your thoughts?
Thanks!
divachyk
Instagram: adaybyjay
Nix08, sunnieb, EnExitStageLeft, Saludable84 -- trying to consolidate all of our conversations spread about in other threads. Thank you for your help. I have ph strips Nix but pretty much got out of the habit of using them after I found products my hair loves. My hair webs when I use shampoo but I always dilute and use an applicator bottle. I don't do excessive scrubbing. I will try En's method for slippery conditioner. Tangling is not something I've started dealing with. I have always tangled even as a young girl. Always. I don't now why but it has happened. I've tried a range of products and it still happens. It happens way less with natural products. I'm usually good until week 10 then the issue comes around with attitude. Ive tried changing up the regi at week 10 but I don't hang in there long. I don't like the breakage so I cave before weathering the storm to figure things out. By the time I relax, the issue goes away and I'm not faced with it again until week 10. I will incorporate all the suggestions that I can without causing a major issue or setback. Thanks ladies!
Report back after next wash day.
P.S. I know I have to change me for this to work. I'm not willing to wash/condition extra times per week. That seems to be the major step many of you take that I don't currently incorporate. I'll give it some thought.
Report back after next wash day.
P.S. I know I have to change me for this to work. I'm not willing to wash/condition extra times per week. That seems to be the major step many of you take that I don't currently incorporate. I'll give it some thought.
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divachyk
Instagram: adaybyjay
Love it FelaShrine
I have to use sulfate free. Sulfate shampoos aggravate my eczema and Seborrheic dermatitis. I always wonder what the water would look like if I were to clarify my hair
(That isn't a step in my regimen)
pre_medicalrulz
It Always Been About Hair!
I know right. I thought it was length but I have a decent length ponytail yet can never emulate any of the buns she does. I'm about to give up lol
danysedai
Well-Known Member
Ladies, I asked a few pages ago about who had used the new Mizani BB relaxer, some answered and a million thanks for that! But I decided to go with the new Affirm relaxer as I've been using Affirm for years now and didn't feel comfortable changing. My sister relaxed my hair yesterday, she had never done it but she did a great job IMO. I looked at the ingredient list on the new relaxer and it is different than the old one. I can post the ingredients for both when I get home if anyone is interested. They added some oils to the new formula, the % of sodium hydroxyde is the same. I bought the Normal strength instead of my usual Mild.
I applied vaseline all around the head, forehead, ears and nape. Then I put some coconut oil on the tip of my fingers and gently massaged the scalp. My sister applied the relaxer first to the middle top sections of my hair, then the back and finally the front. I have to confess that I exceeded the application time they recommend, I always do, aaaalwaaays, if I go under or at the recommended time my hair is severely underprocessed. I guess I have resistant hair.
Barely any hair came out when I washed it out of my hair, applied the reconstructor for 5 minutes and then the neutralizing shampoo. Some hair came out after I deep conditioned with a mix of Alfaparf Rigen and Alter Ego Garlic. I then rollerset and after I gently brushed it back into a high bun. That's how I am wearing my hair today. I applied a tiny bit of Mizani Coconut Souffle (loving it again!)
All in all, I really liked the new formula of the Affirm relaxer, it didn't burn at all and my hair feels great. It did straighten more than I wanted (of course, after I exceeded the time
) but I still have a bit of curl but not as texturized as before.
I've been experiencing a lot of breakage(you can see the difference between the ponytail on my siggy and the picture attached to this post) that's why I have been consolidating my regimen, went back to the kerastase products that work for my hair, also stopped flat ironing my NG and continued rollersetting and applying protein treatments getting ready to relax my hair.
For my hair, stretching relaxers is a no- no, keeping to an 8 week, 10 week at the most relaxing schedule is best for me. I have also been cutting the thin ends from the bone straight relaxers I used to get 2 years ago. I plan on bunning the entire winter and going back to the thickness I used to have.
I applied vaseline all around the head, forehead, ears and nape. Then I put some coconut oil on the tip of my fingers and gently massaged the scalp. My sister applied the relaxer first to the middle top sections of my hair, then the back and finally the front. I have to confess that I exceeded the application time they recommend, I always do, aaaalwaaays, if I go under or at the recommended time my hair is severely underprocessed. I guess I have resistant hair.
Barely any hair came out when I washed it out of my hair, applied the reconstructor for 5 minutes and then the neutralizing shampoo. Some hair came out after I deep conditioned with a mix of Alfaparf Rigen and Alter Ego Garlic. I then rollerset and after I gently brushed it back into a high bun. That's how I am wearing my hair today. I applied a tiny bit of Mizani Coconut Souffle (loving it again!)
All in all, I really liked the new formula of the Affirm relaxer, it didn't burn at all and my hair feels great. It did straighten more than I wanted (of course, after I exceeded the time
) but I still have a bit of curl but not as texturized as before.I've been experiencing a lot of breakage(you can see the difference between the ponytail on my siggy and the picture attached to this post) that's why I have been consolidating my regimen, went back to the kerastase products that work for my hair, also stopped flat ironing my NG and continued rollersetting and applying protein treatments getting ready to relax my hair.
For my hair, stretching relaxers is a no- no, keeping to an 8 week, 10 week at the most relaxing schedule is best for me. I have also been cutting the thin ends from the bone straight relaxers I used to get 2 years ago. I plan on bunning the entire winter and going back to the thickness I used to have.
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RoundEyedGirl504
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Ladies, I asked a few pages ago about who had used the new Mizani BB relaxer, some answered and a million thanks for that! But I decided to go with the new Affirm relaxer as I've been using Affirm for years now and didn't feel comfortable changing. My sister relaxed my hair yesterday, she had never done it but she did a great job IMO. I looked at the ingredient list on the new relaxer and it is different than the old one. I can post the ingredients for both when I get home if anyone is interested. They added some oils to the new formula, the % of sodium hydroxyde is the same. I bought the Normal strength instead of my usual Mild.
I applied vaseline all around the head, forehead, ears and nape. Then I put some coconut oil on the tip of my fingers and gently massaged the scalp. My sister applied the relaxer first to the middle top sections of my hair, then the back and finally the front. I have to confess that I exceeded the application time they recommend, I always do, aaaalwaaays, if I go under or at the recommended time my hair is severely underprocessed. I guess I have resistant hair.
Barely any hair came out when I washed it out of my hair, applied the reconstructor for 5 minutes and then the neutralizing shampoo. Some hair came out after I deep conditioned with a mix of Alfaparf Rigen and Alter Ego Garlic. I then rollerset and after I gently brushed it back into a high bun. That's how I am wearing my hair today. I applied a tiny bit of Mizani Coconut Souffle (loving it again!)
All in all, I really liked the new formula of the Affirm relaxer, it didn't burn at all and my hair feels great. It did straighten more than I wanted (of course, after I exceeded the time
I've been experiencing a lot of breakage(you can see the difference between the ponytail on my siggy and the picture attached to this post) that's why I have been consolidating my regimen, went back to the kerastase products that work for my hair, also stopped flat ironing my NG and continued rollersetting and applying protein treatments getting ready to relax my hair.
For my hair, stretching relaxers is a no- no, keeping to an 8 week, 10 week at the most relaxing schedule is best for me. I have also been cutting the thin ends from the bone straight relaxers I used to get 2 years ago. I plan on bunning the entire winter and going back to the thickness I used to have.
Your hair looks great!
Mahsiah
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FelaShrine
Well-Known Member
I'm too in love with Aphogee's shampoo for damaged hair
Why are we having this conversation right now? Go get you a bottle of Creme of Nature Argan Oil.
sunnieb
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Lilmama1011
Well-Known Member
It's ok..... Shampoo is shampoo to me. I never had a shampoo wow me. When I get new growth it still tangles no matter what shampoo I use
divachyk
Instagram: adaybyjay
sunnieb, let me grow with you. I'd love to read about how you manage weeks 17-20.
I have to use sulfate free. Sulfate shampoos aggravate my eczema and Seborrheic dermatitis. I always wonder what the water would look like if I were to clarify my hair
SuchaLady, I have Keratosis Pilaris and too have to be careful with products that dry my skin out.
pre_medicalrulz SuchaLady Mahsiah girls, you make me blush. Thank you for the bun love. I'm about to change my avatar to a newer bun. That one was done sometime ago. I instagram my buns most days. I'm relaxedthairapy on Instagram.
FelaShrine, I had one bottle and regret not buying more. I will replenish at Black Friday if I have enough cash to go 'round. I have many backups of Pura Body so I'm not hurting for a LI but Hair Dew is nice. My fave and staples page need updating.
EnExitStageLeft
Well-Known Member
.......Creme Nature Argan Oil Shampoo is pretty good......I cannot lie.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
I'm too in love with Aphogee's shampoo for damaged hair
I searched too long; nothing is replacing my Paul Mitchell. He's the best white guy I never had!
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
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