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All three she posted today are the same woman. She detangled, washed and then trimmed the lady's hair
 
Great job, Taren! I feel like hopping on the train and letting Jennifer Rose do my hair. I like how knowledgeable she is. I think I will enjoy this series.
 
I really don't like how Jennifer Rose speaks in such absolutes on Instagram. I don't doubt that she's well educated and knows what she's talking about but not everyone needs a professional trim every three/four months to grow long hair. And some people do need to do protein treatments before they strengthen their hair. If we've learned anything in the natural hair community isn't it "do what works for you"?

I used to follow her because I appreciated how she actually interacted with her followers and posted pictures of her clients' hair, but I had to stop.

Taren's video series was pretty cool.
 
I liked this series. I learned some info to help me have an easier wash day for my daughter. She has the same texture as the hair model in the videos.

Thanks OP for posting!
 
I wonder if the stylist is familiar w/kinky hair... or just natural hair in general. Detangling bone dry hair w/no conditioner, no water, and/or no oil?? That's a big no. Plus she used a brush w/those end pads that shred and rip kinky hair. Then she said 90% of natural hair problems can be solved by a trim. Really? All of her practices lead to end breakage, which require constant trimming.
 
virtuenow said:
I wonder if the stylist is familiar w/kinky hair... or just natural hair in general. Detangling bone dry hair w/no conditioner, no water, and/or no oil?? That's a big no. Plus she used a brush w/those end pads that shred and rip kinky hair. Then she said 90% of natural hair problems can be solved by a trim. Really? All of her practices lead to end breakage, which require constant trimming.
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...was just thinking the same thing.

Good thing we all know the LHCF motto: "Do what works for YOU and YOUR HAIR only!!".

That paddle brush...:nono::nono:...not for me.
Not washing my hair in sections...:nono::nono:....not for me

Nonetheless, it was a nice video.
 
I really like the series, it def has potential. Hopefully she shows different natual hair stylist & not just kim rose. That paddle brush is a big no no for me too. I would like to see how other stylist style & handle natural hair
 
I watched, but forwarded through parts. It's a nice set of videos, especially if you're just starting out. I sometimes detangle on dry hair, but when I'm super tangled I prefer to use the water/cons help.
I've never used a paddle brush ike that, I use the denman. It seemed to work well on her hair.
 
That paddle brush tho...:nono:

When I was relaxed, I used to detangle with a paddle brush because a stylist told me the same story of it being "gentle". Chewed up my ends something horrid.
 
I enjoyed the series. However I wish the stylist demonstrated or taught the model how to replicate this at home or else she may become dependant on a stylist to perform a basic wash and trim. Who has a wash bowl at home that would make loose washing easy? How should she do it once she leaves the salon? Even the model wanted to know how she sectioned and detangled so quickly. The stylist should have put the paddle brush in her hand and taught her. There's no way I would personally use a paddle brush on dry hair peppered with shed hair but if its a viable option for the client then show her.
 
Hell nawl. I cringed everytime that paddle brush went thru the hair. They need to use a better camera, or maybe its my phone, but both taren and the model both had very dry looking hair. I didnt like the look of the blow out as I think the hair still being a bit wavy at the ends made it look chewed.
 
Her hair is gorgeous and I love that she didn't flatiron. It's an awesome blow out. I really like her hair color.
 
I finally watched the series. I'm always curious about people with loose curly hair who claim to know what's best for a tightly coiled texture. Detangling on dry hair doesn't work for everyone although she said that is her routine on every client. I hope the newly natural crowd will do a bit more research before following this routine simply because Taren posted it.

Most of us have seen Naptural85 and Kimmaytube on YouTube grow their hair to great lengths and neither detangles their tightly coiled, dry hair with a paddle brush with plastic tips.

A paddle brush with plastic tips on dry curly hair? That is a recipe for damaged ends, at least on my tightly coiled hair. You could hear the brush snapping off pieces of hair. If the brush was just removing shed hair, there would be no snapping sound. I think the paddle brush idea could work to remove shed hair before washing, but one without those plastic tips and when used with some oil or a conditioner to avoid snapping off healthy hair. You need the shed hairs to slide out (which is why some oil, water or conditioner with slip is needed). In the video is sounded like the hairs were being ripped out.

Some hair problems can be solved with a trim but I doubt it's 90%. Healthy hair practices after good trim can solve most natural hair problems. Finger detangling, especially on dry hair, is far better than using a paddle brush with plastic tips. A second option after finger detangling is using a modified denman brush on damp hair (water/oil/conditioner). Of course this is only if you're on a length journey.

If you just want to maintain a style, then her tips seem fine to speed up your wash day and will likely result in needing a trim every 8 weeks.
 
I just finished the series. Did anyone else see that the stylist acknowledged breakage from the paddle brush? She justified it by saying that they were split ends anyway. This is why I'm scared to go into a salon as a natural. I could break my hair off at home for free.
 
I agree with most of what she was saying, but dry brushing is a no no for me a well.

I may be the minority but I find it easier to detangle my hair under water. I finger detangle my hair a bit but when I get in the shower the rest of the shed hairs come out easily.

Overall, I like the series

ETA: I wish they someone would do a series for thin/fine naturals. We are so overlooked.
 
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I liked the series. It was very informative. I need to watch again to see if she mentioned which shampoo she used. It was interesting how the clients hair didn't shrink up very much. Next time I wash I may try the shampoo on dry hair followed with a hydrating shampoo and see how that works. For the most part I skip shampoo because my shrinkage is crazy and it still dries my hair out even with hydrating shampoo.

I have the same experience as she did with the detangling though. Once the conditioner is rinsed and my ends are good, it is easy to detangle my hair. I hope that lasts as my hair gets longer.

I wonder if Taren will follow up with people in her series a few months from now. It would be good to get her feedback in 3 months.
 
virtuenow said:
I wonder if the stylist is familiar w/kinky hair... or just natural hair in general. Detangling bone dry hair w/no conditioner, no water, and/or no oil?? That's a big no. Plus she used a brush w/those end pads that shred and rip kinky hair. Then she said 90% of natural hair problems can be solved by a trim. Really? All of her practices lead to end breakage, which require constant trimming.
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I agree with those statements.

naturalmanenyc said:
I finally watched the series. I'm always curious about people with loose curly hair who claim to know what's best for a tightly coiled texture. Detangling on dry hair doesn't work for everyone although she said that is her routine on every client. I hope the newly natural crowd will do a bit more research before following this routine simply because Taren posted it.

Most of us have seen Naptural85 and Kimmaytube on YouTube grow their hair to great lengths and neither detangles their tightly coiled, dry hair with a paddle brush with plastic tips.

A paddle brush with plastic tips on dry curly hair? That is a recipe for damaged ends, at least on my tightly coiled hair. You could hear the brush snapping off pieces of hair. If the brush was just removing shed hair, there would be no snapping sound. I think the paddle brush idea could work to remove shed hair before washing, but one without those plastic tips and when used with some oil or a conditioner to avoid snapping off healthy hair. You need the shed hairs to slide out (which is why some oil, water or conditioner with slip is needed). In the video is sounded like the hairs were being ripped out.

Some hair problems can be solved with a trim but I doubt it's 90%. Healthy hair practices after good trim can solve most natural hair problems. Finger detangling, especially on dry hair, is far better than using a paddle brush with plastic tips. A second option after finger detangling is using a modified denman brush on damp hair (water/oil/conditioner). Of course this is only if you're on a length journey.

If you just want to maintain a style, then her tips seem fine to speed up your wash day and will likely result in needing a trim every 8 weeks.
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naturalmanenyc said:
@dontspeakdefeat

I'd love to know your thoughts on this series?
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naturalmanenyc I agree with you.

Let's just say this. The stylist herself has lovely long hair. I wonder did she use the same methods on herself to grow her hair.

To each it's own. If it is working for her and her clients. Go for it.

I did however cringe throughout a lot of what was going on in the video. I really don't agree with most of her practices but as I stated before, if it's working....then hey, hey, hey!!

You have to be way more gentle with kinky hair if you want it to grow it to longer lengths. Tis all!
 
dontspeakdefeat said:
I agree with those statements.



naturalmanenyc

You have to be way more gentle with kinky hair if you want it to grow it to longer lengths. Tis all!
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This may be key right here. The client may not have a length goal as we think about it so trimming her hair frequently may not be an issue for her. For us it may be a no, but her clients may be fine with it.
 
I watched this yesterday. I didn't like how the stylist was pulling randomly and unnecessarily at her ends whilst talking at the beginning. I think the only think good about the vids was the shampooing technique .
 
I could practically hear the cuticles falling off the models strands as the stylist dry detangled her hair. I guess it is faster from the stylist's perspective and gives her more cash in charging for the trim as well as the style. If length is the goal, I don't think that dry detangling is the answer.

My hair is fairly easy to detangle and I only use a denman brush occasionally when my hair is tangled at the root with a lot of water and conditioner. My daughter's hair is a lot like the model's, thick in density but fine in strand width. Her ends would be tattered if I dry detangled with a brush.
 
Ummmm. No. No. And no. She would not rake through my dry hair with a brush like that. NO. NO. NO. DID I SAY NO???? Yeah.....no.
 
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faithVA said:
This may be key right here. The client may not have a length goal as we think about it so trimming her hair frequently may not be an issue for her. For us it may be a no, but her clients may be fine with it.
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Yes, she did have a length goal. The stylist said so-- and indicated the she would try not to cut too much length at her wishes. Just wait a few weeks before she notices her ends have thinned and broken. She probably won't even attribute it to the stylist (since her delivery was so believable to people)
 
virtuenow said:
Yes, she did have a length goal. The stylist said so-- and indicated the she would try not to cut too much length at her wishes. Just wait a few weeks before she notices her ends have thinned and broken. She probably won't even attribute it to the stylist (since her delivery was so believable to people)
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Maybe we can get Taren to do a 3 month follow up.
 
I thought y'all were exxagereating about the sound of the brush, but nope, it sure was ripping through that hair! :nono: I wouldn't have allowed it.

I liked clarifying first and then using a hydrating shampoo. Hadn't thought of that.

I felt she was kinda stingy with the conditioner but I notice that about salons in general and I may be a tad heavy-handed, soooo... :look:

Why did she blow it out dry??? No heat protectant, no serum, no oils or nothing? Is that a normal technique?
 
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