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now im not gonna lie.. im sitting herewith envy lol that is some gawjus hair!!! i dnt know whether to smile or throw myself on the floor and cry
wow!!![]()
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... yes I may just join you! 
Her hair is gorgeous, WOW!!
I can only look and admire what she got. The truth of the matter is that it doesn't matter what I do to my hair - natural or relaxed - it will never look like hers because her hair texture is on the 3c side (mixed chick) while I am a 4a/b. I have to use a 4a/b head as my inspiration.
Alot of times people are tempted to go natural in anticipation that their hair will look a certain way - for e.g. your friends. When they fail to achieve the same look they become discouraged and frustrated.
The OP said that her friend in a natural 4a/4b (go to the first post). So, there is hope for us 4's.
What I want to know is....when is she going to join?


I have yet to see a type 4 in those pictures, but that's just my opinion. Her hair is very pretty but I too think she's in the 3 range.
I have yet to see a type 4 in those pictures, but that's just my opinion. Her hair is very pretty but I too think she's in the 3 range.
The OP said that her friend in a natural 4a/4b (go to the first post). So, there is hope for us 4's.
What I want to know is....when is she going to join?
Nope she is not a type 3. Her is not naturally curly.To acheive curls she must do a braidout. The natural pic attached is a super old braidout. Dont want to discourage the types 4's. This is a full black girl (not mixed) with really nice hair
- tell her I would pay for her membership here! Wow, I cannot wait to see what her hair looks like just washed with no products in. If her hair looks a tiny bit like mine, I would be her biggest fan and she my greatest hair inspiration! Nope she is not a type 3. Her is not naturally curly.To acheive curls she must do a braidout. The natural pic attached is a super old braidout. Dont want to discourage the types 4's. This is a full black girl (not mixed) with really nice hair
IMHO- she's in the threes. Nothing wrong with it- still beautiful but hair doesn't appear to be a 4.
Nah I dont agree... Times like this I wish I had some pics of my natural hair and braid outs. Mine used to come out just like that all the time. And I'm all 4, no 3 up in this head. 
The texture of her pressed hair screams type four... Maybe it's my high res monitor, but I dont see no type 3 in thurrrr... When my hair was natural and I did braid outs, it followed the same pattern as hers, so I dont think that's a good gauge.

The texture of her pressed hair screams type four... Maybe it's my high res monitor, but I dont see no type 3 in thurrrr... When my hair was natural and I did braid outs, it followed the same pattern as hers, so I dont think that's a good gauge.

. However, I think the whole debate about whether or not she is a 3 or a 4 points to what I've been thinking for a while now, that the typing is very constraning and doesn't allow for much variation. I have a natural friend who's curl pattern is exactly like mine, however, when she flat-irons her hair and I flat iron mine, we might as well be from 2 completely different hair planets. Her's looks exactly like OP's friend where as mine.....well lets just say it looks NOTHING like hers. I agree. I KNOW my hair is type 4, and the natural part of my straightened hair is very similar in texture to her straightened hair. Also, is it possible that she did a braidout on pressed hair? I've done braidouts when my flat ironed hair starts to puff up, and they looked like that since I didn't start wet.
At any rate, her hair is gorgeous!![]()
Exactly. The picture you posted that was supposed to be a wash and go can't be if she's a 4. Type 4 hair isn't going to hang that flat and be weighed down with that loose of a curl as a wash and go. Also the curls are too big to be a 4. It was probably a twist out of some sort. Or she just has a looser texture. She could be a coarse type 3. All type 3 hair isn't silky.
Just not relaxed.Her hair is just beyond words, if my 4 hair looked anything like that if I were natural you would never catch me putting that creamy crack on my head again. However, I think the whole debate about whether or not she is a 3 or a 4 points to what I've been thinking for a while now, that the typing is very constraning and doesn't allow for much variation. I have a natural friend who's curl pattern is exactly like mine, however, when she flat-irons her hair and I flat iron mine, we might as well be from 2 completely different hair planets. Her's looks exactly like OP's friend where as mine.....well lets just say it looks NOTHING like hers.
OT: Does anyone remember a thread that was started a few months that had a more varied hair typing scale??? I think it went all the way to like 4z? I've been looking for it but can't find it in any of the searches I've done.
gee wilikers that is too damn gorgeousAgain the natural pic was a really old braid out. No curls acheived w/o braidouts for her. From what I read about type 3's they have a naturally curly hair pattern.
not this young lady. We've been in each other heads since 1999.
the only reason that I am stressing this point is becuz people often assume she has naturally curly hair or that she is a mixed just becuz it's long and beautiful. Not the case...Her hair is very similar to macheriesJust not relaxed.
( i guess i'll have to post some washed n go's for y'all to accept the fact that she is not a "curly-when-wet")
Shrinkage can be a b!tch. 
Just not relaxed.