Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Dove56]

Sure, I put one up in my album.

Woooh chile. Your hair makes me want to go back to WL it's so pretty. To bad I hate combing my hair. I'll just stare at yours!

 

[PGirl]

What clarifying poo is everyone using? Do you think that it's okay to use a clarifying poo (Kenra) that contains NaCl prior to applying the treatment?

This is a good question. My guess is no but maybe someone else knows for sure.

 

[Titansgirl]

Wow this thread has blown up. I have been doing BKT somewhat secretly since last year. I thought I would get yelled at for it,on this site but apparently things have changed! The only complaint I have is after I put the treatment on, I can't really comb my hair. Its sticky. Perhaps I'm using too much? Maybe I didnt flat iron enough times? I definitely used more than 3 oz. When I watched Brittney's you tube vid she said not to use much product. I have the QOD Max and it does a fabulous job but I would like to be able to comb more during the flat ironing process. Once I wash it the hair is no longer sticky but I hate waiting. Any tips?

PGirl,

When I did my first bkt treatment I used too much. I used a little over 3oz. My hair was very heavy when I proceeded with the blow drying portion. I turned out okay after the flat iron section, but my beloved chi flat iron doesn't go up to 450 degrees.

I used the Softliss brand.

I used less than 2 oz when I performed my 2nd bkt treatment 7 days later. The results were excellent!

 

[Titansgirl]

Anyone using the Softliss. I want to do the Chocolate one but first want to see some type of guide to see which one is best used for which hair types. I didn't really see that on their website.

Tnorenberg,

I used the Morango flavor. The results were fabulous. I think the different scents are used for what smells you want to breathe in. My neice walked out on the patio while I was putting the treatment in and said that it smelled like fruit.

I went with the Morango scent just out of curiosity, just to see what it smelled like...

 

[Titansgirl]

I love this thread! Subscribing! I'm seriously thinking about giving BKT a try. I'm sold on the Soft Liss & the QOD Gold. In the mean time I going to check TJ Maxx out for the flat irons. I love LHCF.

I went to TJMax and purchased the Rusk flat iron. I used it during the 2nd treatment. I worked so much better than my Chi. I used the Softliss brand which allows you to wash your hair after an hour after the flatiron step.

Once I completed the entire process, I did a comparison test between my chi and the rusk flat iron from TJMax. I flat ironed my right half of my hair with the chi and the left half of the hair with the rusk. I didn't notice a big difference between the two flat irons. This test was performed after my final rinse. Which is after the deep conditioning process when using the Softliss brand.

 

[Chameleonchick]

So I guess since sodium is a nono, going to the beach is a BIG nono when you have the BKT? ................... Oh well there goes my fantasy of me in my hot little bikini with a head of wild curls flowing in the humidity drenched air while "Carlos" butters up my back with sunscreen.................. *clears throat*

When I called Global they told me if you go to the beach the treatment will only last half as long. So if it would usually last 4 months then it would only last 2 months by going to the beach. Also she said if you happen to use a shampoo with sodium chloride it won't take all of it off the first time but it will make your hair start to revert. HTH!

 

[Chameleonchick]

Tnorenberg,

I used the Morango flavor. The results were fabulous. I think the different scents are used for what smells you want to breathe in. My neice walked out on the patio while I was putting the treatment in and said that it smelled like fruit.

I went with the Morango scent just out of curiosity, just to see what it smelled like...

So...what does it smell like? A sweet yummy tropical fruit? What is a Morango anyways?

Just looked it up(morango) its a strawberry so this is portuguese for strawberry?

 

[Titansgirl]

Sure, I put one up in my album.

Healthytext,

I just looked at your album and I just have to say........YOUR HAIR IS GORGEOUS!!!!

 

[Titansgirl]

So...what does it smell like? A sweet yummy tropical fruit? What is a Morango anyways?

I does smell fruity... I have no clue what Morango is????LOL. I just liked the sound of the name so I went for it......

 

[sunbubbles]

When I called Global they told me if you go to the beach the treatment will only last half as long. So if it would usually last 4 months then it would only last 2 months by going to the beach. Also she said if you happen to use a shampoo with sodium chloride it won't take all of it off the first time but it will make your hair start to revert. HTH!

YAY!! Thanks for this info! My dream hasnt been killed afterall!! Now working on getting into the hot little bikini MIGHT pose a problem...................

 

[winterinatl]

LOL @ BKT on the DL.... I'll tell a radical sista to come and get these knots out of my ends if she is so concerned with the state of my hair...for crying out loud...I wish somebody would say something to me. I would kindly ask them to come detangle me at each wash...they would then likely suggest that I get a BKT or something!

I plan to brush the solution on to a small section and then use a medium/fine tooth comb to comb out the excess, section by section until I am done.

There has been strong emphasis on not getting too much product on the hair.

OMgosh I just realized we are both in ATL ( ) we could have a BKT party!!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

OMgosh I just realized we are both in ATL ( ) we could have a BKT party!!

Girl you know how to flat iron? LOL

 

[AtlantaJJ]

When I called Global they told me if you go to the beach the treatment will only last half as long. So if it would usually last 4 months then it would only last 2 months by going to the beach. Also she said if you happen to use a shampoo with sodium chloride it won't take all of it off the first time but it will make your hair start to revert. HTH!

This would only be a problem if I paid someone $300.00 to do my hair. If I did it myself, well then no biggie...

 

[AtlantaJJ]

What type/brands of conditioners are you ladies using after the treatment? For weekly conditioning?
Is the idea to use non-sulfate shampoo and conditioner?

I haven't done the treatment yet, but I plan to use Joico Moisture recovery and their daily protein reconstructor. I will use MillCreek Keratin shampoo or cowash.

 

[belle_reveuse28]

So after reading much about this and knowing someone who's gotten it done, I'm def going to do this in another few weeks... My question is this... My hair generally hates products that have protein in them, especially heavy protein... I do a protein treatment about once a month when my hair starts to get too soft. In comparision, how can one apply a treatment such as this, and also subsequently, and it not have the same damaging, dry, brittling effect that protein in products cause to my hair? TIA

 

[winterinatl]

Girl you know how to flat iron? LOL

For real though, we might need to consider this. It might be easier.....hmmm but my stuff just got ordered a day or so ago, yours will be here sooner.

 

[healthytext]

Beautiful!!

Healthytext,

I just looked at your album and I just have to say........YOUR HAIR IS GORGEOUS!!!!

Woooh chile. Your hair makes me want to go back to WL it's so pretty. To bad I hate combing my hair. I'll just stare at yours!

Thank you so much! And Veejee, I hate combing too. Monday night I combed it for the first time since doing the treatment on Friday. It was so nice to look down at my sink and not see a sprinkling of broken hairs.

What type/brands of conditioners are you ladies using after the treatment? For weekly conditioning?
Is the idea to use non-sulfate shampoo and conditioner?

I think I'll be using Rejuvenol's after care products to start. I bought the set on eBay for $75 (included 8oz - After Treatment Shampoo, 8oz - After Treatment Conditioner, 8oz - Clarifying Shampoo, 4oz - La Brasiliana BKT solution, 4oz - Frizz Away Serum) from seller easy1b. I thought it was a decent deal. They don't have any listings up now but just an FYI for anyone who might be interested in the future. Also, a different seller has the entire Rejuvenol set up now for $115.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

Wow this thread has blown up. I have been doing BKT somewhat secretly since last year. I thought I would get yelled at for it,on this site but apparently things have changed! The only complaint I have is after I put the treatment on, I can't really comb my hair. Its sticky. Perhaps I'm using too much? Maybe I didnt flat iron enough times? I definitely used more than 3 oz. When I watched Brittney's you tube vid she said not to use much product. I have the QOD Max and it does a fabulous job but I would like to be able to comb more during the flat ironing process. Once I wash it the hair is no longer sticky but I hate waiting. Any tips?

Your hair is looking really good I might add. I was looking at your updates. It seems down low bkting has done you good.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

So after reading much about this and knowing someone who's gotten it done, I'm def going to do this in another few weeks... My question is this... My hair generally hates products that have protein in them, especially heavy protein... I do a protein treatment about once a month when my hair starts to get too soft. In comparision, how can one apply a treatment such as this, and also subsequently, and it not have the same damaging, dry, brittling effect that protein in products cause to my hair? TIA

I was thinking about this myself. BUT then I keep reading how soft and moisturized everyone says their hair feels. I think I'll just follow up with a lot of moisturizing conditioners. Hopefully someone else can chime in about this.

 

[tnorenberg]

Tnorenberg,

I used the Morango flavor. The results were fabulous. I think the different scents are used for what smells you want to breathe in. My neice walked out on the patio while I was putting the treatment in and said that it smelled like fruit.

I went with the Morango scent just out of curiosity, just to see what it smelled like...

Thanks. I was a little concerned about fumes or chemically smells. So, it smells nice, eh?

So...what does it smell like? A sweet yummy tropical fruit? What is a Morango anyways?

Just looked it up(morango) its a strawberry so this is portuguese for strawberry?

Hmmmm, interesting. Chocolate or strawberries. Sonwhatthe heck does the Marine Algae one smell like..seaweed? Yuck

 

[tnorenberg]

PGirl,

When I did my first bkt treatment I used too much. I used a little over 3oz. My hair was very heavy when I proceeded with the blow drying portion. I turned out okay after the flat iron section, but my beloved chi flat iron doesn't go up to 450 degrees.

I used the Softliss brand.

I used less than 2 oz when I performed my 2nd bkt treatment 7 days later. The results were excellent!

So for BSL length hair would 2oz be enough?

 

[Titansgirl]

Tnorenberg, I was surprised that I used less tha 2 oz, but what I did differently than the 1st treatment was to put a small amount on the end of the brush and start combingit thru. Then I too the excess amount and put it on my ends. I think 2oz should be okay.

 

[CoCoRica]

I went to TJMax and purchased the Rusk flat iron. I used it during the 2nd treatment. I worked so much better than my Chi. I used the Softliss brand which allows you to wash your hair after an hour after the flatiron step.

Once I completed the entire process, I did a comparison test between my chi and the rusk flat iron from TJMax. I flat ironed my right half of my hair with the chi and the left half of the hair with the rusk. I didn't notice a big difference between the two flat irons. This test was performed after my final rinse. Which is after the deep conditioning process when using the Softliss brand.

Thanks. I have the 1st CHI that came out and it only gets up to 375. I ended up getting the Babyliss Pro Ceramic for $24.99.

For anyone in the RDU area the TJMaxx in Knightdale has them (none in Garner).They also have huge bottles of Giovanni poos and con's for 12.99.

It will be awhile before I make my purchase. I decided to give Miss Jessie's Salon a shot. I wont get any chemical service. I prefer to try the BKT on naked hair.

So I can show all the other 4a/b's looking for options.

 

[Nuelle]

hey ladies! I am considering getting this done professionally and my stylist uses la-brasiliana brand which comes with a poo, a conditioner, all-in-one instant treatment, and shine. I am hoping to find a cheaper alternative to la-brasiliana products which contain sls and would like to know:

What shampoos and conditioners do you use in between treatments? Does the brand you use come with its own shampoo and conditioner?

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I plan to use MillCreek Keratin Shampoo

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Thanks. I have the 1st CHI that came out and it only gets up to 375. I ended up getting the Babyliss Pro Ceramic for $24.99.

For anyone in the RDU area the TJMaxx in Knightdale has them (none in Garner).They also have huge bottles of Giovanni poos and con's for 12.99.

It will be awhile before I make my purchase. I decided to give Miss Jessie's Salon a shot. I wont get any chemical service. I prefer to try the BKT on naked hair.

So I can show all the other 4a/b's looking for options.

The Giovanni Poo has Sodium Chloride in it...read your labels! My smooth as silk poo might be going to the trade forum. My poor son can only use but so much shampoo

 

[PinkSkates]

I was thinking about this myself. BUT then I keep reading how soft and moisturized everyone says their hair feels. I think I'll just follow up with a lot of moisturizing conditioners. Hopefully someone else can chime in about this.

Aloha LD,
I just saw your question and I answered it over at KMH.

 

[luckiestdestiny]

Aloha LD,
I just saw your question and I answered it over at KMH.

Thanks so much PinkSkates!

 

[winterinatl]

I got my QOD gold AND my Rsessions root control iron today! I am excited to get started, but first I need to get shampoo and conditioner. I also need a good clarifier. I only have Suave right now, is that good enough?

 

[sheba1]

I got my QOD gold AND my Rsessions root control iron today! I am excited to get started, but first I need to get shampoo and conditioner. I also need a good clarifier. I only have Suave right now, is that good enough?

Hot dog! You are ready If it's Suave clarifying shampoo, that'll be fine. I was a little disappointed when my Global package arrived and saw their clarifying shampoo was just... well, clarifying shampoo. It's got sulfates, sodium chloride and the whole deal! So I'm sure, if it's Suave clarifying, you'll be fine.

As for shampoo and conditioner you'll probably be surprised how many of your own products already fit the bill? Do you have any natural shampoos and conditioners? They're generally sodium chloride free. If no, you can grab some L'oreal EverPure Color Care shampoo and conditioner from the store. I also co-wash more than shampoo now that I'm bkt'd and Vo5 Clarifying conditioner is pretty awesome and color-safe. Most products that are safe for colored hair are safe for bkt. You still want to check for the absence of sodium chloride, but they are generally going to work.