Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[sunshinne368]

That is very pretty How long did it take? Since that is the Ebay vendor, I will keep that product in mind, if you think its a keeper. It looks that way, to me.

Cuteness thank you! It took about 4-5 hrs! This is def. keeper! Just watch out for the fumes...I'm kinda sensitive to them! My eyes were tearing up when I got to the front!

 

[sydwrites]

You ladies are making me seriously consider this, the pictures are just beautiful! People seem to be using different brands, is qod gold supposed to be better than the global keratin? These seem to be the two brands I hear about alot.

 

[sheba1]

You ladies are making me seriously consider this, the pictures are just beautiful! People seem to be using different brands, is qod gold supposed to be better than the global keratin? These seem to be the two brands I hear about alot.

Don't forget to consider Rejuvenol used by naturaltobe here: http://public.fotki.com/RegsWife/another-minichop--s/

Her results have me ready to switch! I love the swing her hair has, plus it has low formaldehyde content (1.6%), higher percentage keratin than global and added collagen.

 

[girlyprincess23]

Is anyone else getting small broken hairs like less than an inch ( like a half of inch) long when they comb or brush? It looks kind of like as long as the damage that is left on my hair. It appears that the damaged ends are falling/ breaking off! Anyone else getting this?

 

[sheba1]

No, Girlyprincess, I haven't experienced anything like this. hmmm Is it many of them?

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Thank u! My hair has both 3c/4A through out! My hair has very loose curls! I was too tired to take pic, however after my work out today I will rinse and blow dry/ flat iron! My hair is really soft ! Also I used Henna a week before the tx!


Thanks everyone, now how are u guys keeping up with maintaining this beautiful tx!

I'm going to have to figure out how to time my henna/cellophane treatments in with my BKT reggie..:scratchch I have a couple of grays I need to cover

Is anyone else getting small broken hairs like less than an inch ( like a half of inch) long when they comb or brush? It looks kind of like as long as the damage that is left on my hair. It appears that the damaged ends are falling/ breaking off! Anyone else getting this?

I'm just a week in but I haven't noticed any broken hairs. I've had two good trims since I got the treatment though. They recommend a trim after the first treatment. I just bought some keratin filler to add to my conditioners.

Be sure to baby your ends and don't forget to DC. I know our hair feels wonderful but I'm not going to stop DCing. I'm going to do keratin protein followed by moisture and a liquid leave in. One of the girls with the BKT is loving the Aphogee 2 minute miracle and the keratin green tea leave in spray.

 

[sydwrites]

Don't forget to consider Rejuvenol used by naturaltobe here: http://public.fotki.com/RegsWife/another-minichop--s/

Her results have me ready to switch! I love the swing her hair has, plus it has low formaldehyde content (1.6%), higher percentage keratin than global and added collagen.

Thanks her hair is great, the second application really did the trick. Both of you guys are killing me with the rollersets though..... which one did you use?

 

[chicacanella]

You're welcome chica! I ain't gonna lie it was a lot of work...6 hours worth! But it was so worth it.
My hair is loving BKT so far. And the most amazing part is my hair feels so moisturized days later without me having to manually add moisture to my hair. I have friends and family members begging me to BKT their hair. I may have to open my own BKT home hair salon!

So, does that mean for the rest of the three months you don't really have to moisturize your hair? And after the treatment how does the moisture get back into your hair if it is coated?

Anyone know?

 

[sheba1]

Thanks her hair is great, the second application really did the trick. Both of you guys are killing me with the rollersets though..... which one did you use?

I used global keratin 2%

 

[Stepiphanie]

Yes! I'm not having a good bkt experience at all so far. I did my treatment last friday, it seemed to go well, hair was smooth, shiny. I saw a couple little broken hairs so I was too alarmed. Tues was the first wash day and I was hoping for great results,but nope. I washed w/ the rejuvenal poo, followed by wen, the the rejuvenol con. When I rinsed it out my hair felt hard, so I decided I needed a dc session. I mixed some HSR w/ 1tsp brahmi and jojoba oil, sat under dryer for 30mins, rinsed than rollerset, I still had breakage but not alarming.

I noticed during the wk that I had little broken hairs on my shoulder, something I haved seen in a very looong time. Then finally tonite was wash nite. I literally almost had an anxiety attack. There was soo much hair in the tub mind u, I'm nl.I had breakage while I was detangling, and believe me I triple checked for sheds! Hell I even had breakage just running my fingers through my hair I thought it may have been the brand (Rejuvanol) but I see other have used it w/ success, so I guess my hair is not a fan.I'm just goin to focus on getting my hair bacl to healthy, then I'll probably get a weave for the rest of the summer.

Sorry for the novel, but I just wanted to share my experience with you. Btw I'm a type 4 relaxed head and was 8 wks post when I got the treatment.

Is anyone else getting small broken hairs like less than an inch ( like a half of inch) long when they comb or brush? It looks kind of like as long as the damage that is left on my hair. It appears that the damaged ends are falling/ breaking off! Anyone else getting this?

 

[sunshinne368]

Is anyone else getting small broken hairs like less than an inch ( like a half of inch) long when they comb or brush? It looks kind of like as long as the damage that is left on my hair. It appears that the damaged ends are falling/ breaking off! Anyone else getting this?

Sorry no I have not had this problem

 

[sunshinne368]

Yes! I'm not having a good bkt experience at all so far. I did my treatment last friday, it seemed to go well, hair was smooth, shiny. I saw a couple little broken hairs so I was too alarmed. Tues was the first wash day and I was hoping for great results,but nope. I washed w/ the rejuvenal poo, followed by wen, the the rejuvenol con. When I rinsed it out my hair felt hard, so I decided I needed a dc session. I mixed some HSR w/ 1tsp brahmi and jojoba oil, sat under dryer for 30mins, rinsed than rollerset, I still had breakage but not alarming.

I noticed during the wk that I had little broken hairs on my shoulder, something I haved seen in a very looong time. Then finally tonite was wash nite. I literally almost had an anxiety attack. There was soo much hair in the tub mind u, I'm nl.I had breakage while I was detangling, and believe me I triple checked for sheds! Hell I even had breakage just running my fingers through my hair I thought it may have been the brand (Rejuvanol) but I see other have used it w/ success, so I guess my hair is not a fan.I'm just goin to focus on getting my hair bacl to healthy, then I'll probably get a weave for the rest of the summer.

Sorry for the novel, but I just wanted to share my experience with you. Btw I'm a type 4 relaxed head and was 8 wks post when I got the treatment.

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Sorry this happened!

 

[Titansgirl]

well ladies here are my results! I love BKT! I am going to wash it out!

Your results are nice!!!! It's always good to hear about the good results with using this treatment....

 

[Titansgirl]

So....I took the plunge this past Friday and today was my first wash. I'm a fine stranded relaxed 4b (18 weeks post). The results post wash are great. I washed with CON green, conditioned with AO Island Naturals,then sprayed with Chi Keratin Mist (thanks Marshalls) and applied a little NTM silk touch.
It looks and feels as if I'm 5 weeks post and not 18.

Likes:
More manageable
Smooth Feeling

Dislikes
The fumes from applying/blowdrying
Not being able to wash for 48 hours

Next time I will use either Sofliss or Organic Thermo Fusion so I can wash same day. I will also invest in a fume extractor.

ETA: I used QOD gold.

I put my softliss treatment in my hair in my bathroom. I had a fan and the window was open, but I didn't experience any discomforts from the blowdrying or flatironing process.

 

[PinkSkates]

Yes! I'm not having a good bkt experience at all so far. I did my treatment last friday, it seemed to go well, hair was smooth, shiny. I saw a couple little broken hairs so I was too alarmed. Tues was the first wash day and I was hoping for great results,but nope. I washed w/ the rejuvenal poo, followed by wen, the the rejuvenol con. When I rinsed it out my hair felt hard, so I decided I needed a dc session. I mixed some HSR w/ 1tsp brahmi and jojoba oil, sat under dryer for 30mins, rinsed than rollerset, I still had breakage but not alarming.

I noticed during the wk that I had little broken hairs on my shoulder, something I haved seen in a very looong time. Then finally tonite was wash nite. I literally almost had an anxiety attack. There was soo much hair in the tub mind u, I'm nl.I had breakage while I was detangling, and believe me I triple checked for sheds! Hell I even had breakage just running my fingers through my hair I thought it may have been the brand (Rejuvanol) but I see other have used it w/ success, so I guess my hair is not a fan.I'm just goin to focus on getting my hair bacl to healthy, then I'll probably get a weave for the rest of the summer.

Sorry for the novel, but I just wanted to share my experience with you. Btw I'm a type 4 relaxed head and was 8 wks post when I got the treatment.

What condition was your scalp and hair in before doing the BKT treatment?
Did you get a pro consultation before having the BKT done?
These are two very important factors to consider before doing BKT!

 

[yodie]

Yes! I'm not having a good bkt experience at all so far. I did my treatment last friday, it seemed to go well, hair was smooth, shiny. I saw a couple little broken hairs so I was too alarmed. Tues was the first wash day and I was hoping for great results,but nope. I washed w/ the rejuvenal poo, followed by wen, the the rejuvenol con. When I rinsed it out my hair felt hard, so I decided I needed a dc session. I mixed some HSR w/ 1tsp brahmi and jojoba oil, sat under dryer for 30mins, rinsed than rollerset, I still had breakage but not alarming.

I noticed during the wk that I had little broken hairs on my shoulder, something I haved seen in a very looong time. Then finally tonite was wash nite. I literally almost had an anxiety attack. There was soo much hair in the tub mind u, I'm nl.I had breakage while I was detangling, and believe me I triple checked for sheds! Hell I even had breakage just running my fingers through my hair I thought it may have been the brand (Rejuvanol) but I see other have used it w/ success, so I guess my hair is not a fan.I'm just goin to focus on getting my hair bacl to healthy, then I'll probably get a weave for the rest of the summer.

Sorry for the novel, but I just wanted to share my experience with you. Btw I'm a type 4 relaxed head and was 8 wks post when I got the treatment.

Isn't BKT supposed to work even better on damaged/slightly damaged hair?

Sorry this is happening to you. Maybe you should trim some of the unhealthy ends and see how your hair cooperates after this.

May be too soon to say, but do you think you'll BKT again?

 

[Kacie]

Yes! I'm not having a good bkt experience at all so far. I did my treatment last friday, it seemed to go well, hair was smooth, shiny. I saw a couple little broken hairs so I was too alarmed. Tues was the first wash day and I was hoping for great results,but nope. I washed w/ the rejuvenal poo, followed by wen, the the rejuvenol con. When I rinsed it out my hair felt hard, so I decided I needed a dc session. I mixed some HSR w/ 1tsp brahmi and jojoba oil, sat under dryer for 30mins, rinsed than rollerset, I still had breakage but not alarming.

I noticed during the wk that I had little broken hairs on my shoulder, something I haved seen in a very looong time. Then finally tonite was wash nite. I literally almost had an anxiety attack. There was soo much hair in the tub mind u, I'm nl.I had breakage while I was detangling, and believe me I triple checked for sheds! Hell I even had breakage just running my fingers through my hair I thought it may have been the brand (Rejuvanol) but I see other have used it w/ success, so I guess my hair is not a fan.I'm just goin to focus on getting my hair bacl to healthy, then I'll probably get a weave for the rest of the summer.

Sorry for the novel, but I just wanted to share my experience with you. Btw I'm a type 4 relaxed head and was 8 wks post when I got the treatment.

Do you relax bone straight? How did you prep your hair before getting the BKT?

It's been only been 10 days since my BKT, but I'm not having the breakage issues that you are describing. A week before the BKT, I did the hardcore 2 step Aphogee treatment. I took the same precautions that I do in preparation for a touchup.

 

[lwilliams1922]

Anyone know of a poo or condish without sodium that contions keratin??

This is great! I appreciate a place to come and discuss different treatments and shampoos and conditioners to use after.

What do you guys think of this natural shampoo? It's mills creek biotin shampoo. I love the ingredients, but all those sodium _____'s make me nervous. No sodium chloride, though.

Deionized water, biotin, hydrolyzed keratin, peppermint oil, hydrolyzed elastin, niacin, folic acid, panthenol (provitamin B5), organic aloe vera gel, organic essential oil, jojoba oil, inositol, barley extract, sodium myreth sulfate, cocamidopropyl betaine (coconut oil), octyl dimethyl PABA, styrene / acrylates copolymer, citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, botanical fragrance.

On the bottle it says the ph is 5.5

It turns out that a few of the conditioners that I own are sodium chloride free.

Elasta QP Intense Fortifying hair conditioner, GVP Matrix Biolage conditioning balm knock off, Giovanni 50/50 Hydrating Calming Conditioner and Infusium 23 orginal formula leave-in.

Some others that pass the sodium chloride test are Salerm 21 and Aphogee 2 minute reconstructor.

I also read that products that contain keratin are good to use after the treatment because they refill places that the keratin may be wearing and allow the treatment to remain longer.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I can't get over how soft and moisturized my hair feels even after I used the wrong products on it the other day. (who suggested I try Aphogee Green Tea Reconstructor?) LOL I need to find new staple products because I can't use my beloved Joico...

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Anyone know of a poo or condish without sodium that contions keratin??

Aphogee 2 minute miracle and the Green Tea Reconstructor which is a spray. I was told Joico's spray reconstrutor is sodium chloride free. I need to get a bottle Stat!

I'm still trying to find my reggie products.

I like Millcreek Biotin shampoo and conditioner the best so far.

Millcreek Keratin has a couple of sodium somethings (not chloride) but I haven't tried it yet, some of the ingredients look a little suspect if I remember correctly.

 

[Dak]

I can't get over how soft and moisturized my hair feels even after I used the wrong products on it the other day. (who suggested I try Aphogee Green Tea Reconstructor?) LOL I need to find new staple products because I can't use my beloved Joico...

I totally hear you, I washed again today, this is my second wash since I did the treatment, it was so nice, I washed, deep conditioned, blew dry (really fast drying time now) and flat ironed, all under two hours. It was so nice to skip the roller set and still have it feel healthy. I used an Aveda Shampure & conditioner sample that I have, it does have sulfates, but not first on the list. Still looking for my ideal product, and missing not being able to use my Aveda Damage Remedy.

PinkSkates, what are you using these day?

 

[Dak]

Here's my hair today, before I braid it for yoga, the BKT has really made it easier to manage.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Dak, your hair is impressive....wowzers.

Here's my hair today, before I braid it for yoga, the BKT has really made it easier to manage.

 

[Dak]

Dak, your hair is impressive....wowzers.

Thanks, Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll! This is the longest I think my hair has ever been, I was kinda surprised to see the length in the picture. (I think I might have been lifting my chin or something, my hair can't be that long!)

The only thing I used after conditioning it was Moisture Block, it really does go well with the BKT.

 

[PinkSkates]

I totally hear you, I washed again today, this is my second wash since I did the treatment, it was so nice, I washed, deep conditioned, blew dry (really fast drying time now) and flat ironed, all under two hours. It was so nice to skip the roller set and still have it feel healthy. I used an Aveda Shampure & conditioner sample that I have, it does have sulfates, but not first on the list. Still looking for my ideal product, and missing not being able to use my Aveda Damage Remedy.

PinkSkates, what are you using these day?

Hi DAK!
What kind of styling products are you curious about?
And your BKT hair is ALL THAT!

 

[Dak]

Hi DAK!
What kind of styling products are you curious about?
And your BKT hair is ALL THAT!

Thank you PinkSkates! And thanks for sharing your BKT pictures here, your hair looks so healthy, it tipped me over to the "BKT" side.


I'm wondering what you're using for shampoo & conditioner that's BKT safe? I haven't found anything yet that seems to be *safe* enough...

 

[PinkSkates]

Thank you PinkSkates! And thanks for sharing your BKT pictures here, your hair looks so healthy, it tipped me over to the "BKT" side.


I'm wondering what you're using for shampoo & conditioner that's BKT safe? I haven't found anything yet that seems to be *safe* enough...

You're welcome Dak. I am currently using: Iden Botanical Energy Shampoo. and Conditioner. These products are sulfate and sodium chloride free.
Here are some selling points they market.
Shampoo charged with botanical energizing complex, naturally prevents breakage and encourages healthy hair growth. Sulfate-free shampoo charged with botanical energizing complex. Naturally prevents breakage and encourages healthy hair growth. A perfect combination of ginseng, coenzyme q10, hemp seed, aloe and other botanical extracts creates a refreshing infusion that invigorates and adds fullness.

 

[Dak]

hmmm, that line looks really good, I've never seen it before. Thank you! Now to see if anyone carries it around here or if I should order online.....

 

[MarieB]

I can't get over how soft and moisturized my hair feels even after I used the wrong products on it the other day. (who suggested I try Aphogee Green Tea Reconstructor?) LOL I need to find new staple products because I can't use my beloved Joico...

That might have been me; I use the Green Tea Reconstructor about once a week. I also love the 2-minute...

 

[luckiestdestiny]

Yes! I'm not having a good bkt experience at all so far. I did my treatment last friday, it seemed to go well, hair was smooth, shiny. I saw a couple little broken hairs so I was too alarmed. Tues was the first wash day and I was hoping for great results,but nope. I washed w/ the rejuvenal poo, followed by wen, the the rejuvenol con. When I rinsed it out my hair felt hard, so I decided I needed a dc session. I mixed some HSR w/ 1tsp brahmi and jojoba oil, sat under dryer for 30mins, rinsed than rollerset, I still had breakage but not alarming.

I noticed during the wk that I had little broken hairs on my shoulder, something I haved seen in a very looong time. Then finally tonite was wash nite. I literally almost had an anxiety attack. There was soo much hair in the tub mind u, I'm nl.I had breakage while I was detangling, and believe me I triple checked for sheds! Hell I even had breakage just running my fingers through my hair I thought it may have been the brand (Rejuvanol) but I see other have used it w/ success, so I guess my hair is not a fan.I'm just goin to focus on getting my hair bacl to healthy, then I'll probably get a weave for the rest of the summer.

Sorry for the novel, but I just wanted to share my experience with you. Btw I'm a type 4 relaxed head and was 8 wks post when I got the treatment.

Wondering if it's the brahmi combined with the bkt? We need to start looking at combinations of what works and what doesn't.

Brami strengthens the hair and has protein and conditioning properties from what I read. It is more moisturizing, but it is also acts like a protein. I know it's NOT a protein..but the whole acts like a protein thing may be possible.

Maybe it was almost like a protein overkill.

Just a thought.