Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[texasqt]

You're right--it wasn't you. My apologies my misquoting . It was Texasqt who asked about diluting Softliss (not Dreamhair) in the "BKT Beauties" forum.

Yep it was me because the Softliss is superthick but I'm content with the results so I won't be messing with it. We got a good thing going - 8 months and 1 week no relaxer today!!!

 

[nakialovesshoes]

Hi ladies. After spending days in the chlorella thread & then more days in the WL shake thread, I just don't have the nerve to read this entire thread. I'm 6 months post my curly perm. I have 3b, 4a & 4b all on my one head. I'm really interested in a no-formaldehyde formula. Can anyone give me a review on the Coppola or any other brand with no-formaldehyde that seems to work good? TIA...

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I hate to post and run....but I am at work.

I would not sit under a hood dryer with the BKT solution on my hair. That is prolonged exposure to the fumes. I would strongly advise against that.

I'll post more later.

 

[cutenss]

Hey everyone! I'm getting BKT'd today! She's using La Brasiliana. My eyes are really irritated and my nose is runny. Is that normal? Also, after application, she rolled my hair and sat. Me under the dryer. I thought she was going to flat iron my "wet" hair. She said she will flat iron my dry hair. Is that right?

The hair in your siggy is so pretty and lush. Make sure you post pics of your BKT hair. I know it is going to be gorgeous

 

[texasqt]

I hate to post and run....but I am at work.

I would not sit under a hood dryer with the BKT solution on my hair. That is prolonged exposure to the fumes. I would strongly advise against that.

I'll post more later.

Oooooo yea that is right. I keep forgetting about the fumes because I haven't experienced any issues with it. Sitting under a hood dryer and having the fumes blow back in your face is an awful idea.

TallGlass2000 - do let us know how it came out and what brand did the stylist use?

 

[naturalmanenyc]

This is good info. I bought the Rejuvenol kit in June 2009 and I have at least 3 treatments left (maybe 4). I figured it had a 1 year shelf life. I need to go ahead and do my next treatment so I don't end up wasting it.

My last BKT was 8/25/09 and I'm in curly twists (weave) for a few more days before I take them out and have them redone for another 2 months. I may as well do a BKT & length check before the new year.

EBAY DREAM HAIR SAMPLE UPDATE:

I'm pasting my exchange with the ebay seller, below. The first email is at the bottom). The seller has a feasible but somewhat unsatisfactory (to me) explanation for the difference between the products. I really hate making accusations without solid evidence (after all, I can't prove the seller altered the product) so I'm going with my gut feeling and dropping the matter.

I'm also telling myself to conduct my future transactions more wisely (e.g., sealed products only...)

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I can understand your concern but I will tell you that we are not putting anything inside these bottles. I use this product also and I know for sure they can change color from one batch to the other.
Consult a hair dresser about the batches and you will see I am right.
If you don't believe it well what can I say.
We sell these keratins and we get them from the distributor in florida and I would never alter anything like that. I am a certified beautician and I would never sell nor apply a product that would ruin someone's hair. Dream hair is not fully thick nor watery.

I was wondering how did your hair turned out since you used it.
I can assure you that what it was inside that bottle was 100% dream hair product.

About the expiration, they have a shelf life of 12 months. When they are sold I rebottle them from the 32oz bottle so they are fresh all the time.
I am very careful of these 4oz bottles, I use a pump to take it out and weigh them so you get a little more than 4oz.

thank you

(seller)

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

My hair airdried after the 3rd BKT (Dreamhair Acai). Okay so I had no pics straight, but there was really no difference. I still have Oprah hair. :-(

 

[Muse]

Hi ladies. After spending days in the chlorella thread & then more days in the WL shake thread, I just don't have the nerve to read this entire thread. I'm 6 months post my curly perm. I have 3b, 4a & 4b all on my one head. I'm really interested in a no-formaldehyde formula. Can anyone give me a review on the Coppola or any other brand with no-formaldehyde that seems to work good? TIA...

I know Softliss has a lot of raves and it's formaldehyde free. I have not used it but I'm sure someone who has will chime in soon.

 

[Muse]

My hair airdried after the 3rd BKT (Dreamhair Acai). Okay so I had no pics straight, but there was really no difference. I still have Oprah hair. :-(

Hmmm...it seems that after your THIRD treatment it should be considerably flatter. Is this any improvement in the volume at all or is it exactly the same as before BKT?
Pretty hair BTW!

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

Hmmm...it seems that after your THIRD treatment it should be considerably flatter. Is this any improvement in the volume at all or is it exactly the same as before BKT?
Pretty hair BTW!

Well, i blame my technique more than anything. I don't have the right flatiron, it's too long. I was also heavyhanded with the DreamHair, even though I didn't think I was.

My hair is considerably looser in texture. That shiny/wavy straight section in the middle of my hair (the back shot) is from the front of my hair... which is always wavy or straight. My hair is starting to look and behave more texlaxed. I just have to keep working on the flat-iron skills and perhaps get a smaller flatiron

 

[Keshieshimmer]

I did it!

I applied the DreamHair Acai (bought from Ms. Fab) to a small section in my middle. I want to see how my hair reacts and if it will shead much. I am 6 months post so it is very rough and very hard to comb.

I can COMB it now and I don't hear snagging. Its so shiny. I think I will see how it does for a few weeks.

Pre-BKT

After BKT applied and blow dry

Post flatiron at 400 degree

 

[Muse]

Well, i blame my technique more than anything. I don't have the right flatiron, it's too long. I was also heavyhanded with the DreamHair, even though I didn't think I was.

My hair is considerably looser in texture. That shiny/wavy straight section in the middle of my hair (the back shot) is from the front of my hair... which is always wavy or straight. My hair is starting to look and behave more texlaxed. I just have to keep working on the flat-iron skills and perhaps get a smaller flatiron

You are right about it possibly being the flat iron. I find that this step could make or break the treatment! The 1st time I did it I was ironing sections that were too big. I don't think I sealed it properly. Do you use your iron on 450? I have been thinking about trying it on 430 next time.

 

[TG2000]

Hi Ladies! I'm coming in to show my BKT's hair! I went yesterday to receive the treatment and I was a little nervous. The stylist used La-Brasiliana and I love it! My hair is sooooo silky and smooth! I was a bit worried at first because she sat me under the dryer with the product in my hair. She told me that this will speed up the blow drying part. The dryer had an open top. I never seen one like that. I was under the dryer for about 7 mins.

I am a little upset though because she trimmed 2 inches of uneven hair! I was sooooo mad! I was able to finally claim BSL! Oh well, now I am APL again, but without the "V" shape.

 

[texasqt]

Tallglass2000

I think you get the picture!

 

[TG2000]

Tallglass2000

I think you get the picture!

Thanks! I'm really gonna when I get to BSL!

 

[*fabulosity*]

Hi Ladies! I'm coming in to show my BKT's hair! I went yesterday to receive the treatment and I was a little nervous. The stylist used La-Brasiliana and I love it! My hair is sooooo silky and smooth! I was a bit worried at first because she sat me under the dryer with the product in my hair. She told me that this will speed up the blow drying part. The dryer had an open top. I never seen one like that. I was under the dryer for about 7 mins.

I am a little upset though because she trimmed 2 inches of uneven hair! I was sooooo mad! I was able to finally claim BSL! Oh well, now I am APL again, but without the "V" shape.

beautiful!!

 

[Damaged but not out]

So ive been studying here for the last month and this is my strategy

Game plan
Im DC'ing my hair now,
I upped my protein treatments 3 weeks ago and added infusium to my daily moisture regimen
On Wednesday im gathering 2 friends ( One to chronicle one to assit)
Im using the soft liss treatment, with an FHI flat iron between 410-430
At the wash out stage im going to go to a dominican salon and get a rollerset with a saran treatment.

Please, add any suggestions, pitfalls etc

TIA

 

[*fabulosity*]

So ive been studying here for the last month and this is my strategy

Game plan
Im DC'ing my hair now,
I upped my protein treatments 3 weeks ago and added infusium to my daily moisture regimen
On Wednesday im gathering 2 friends ( One to chronicle one to assit)
Im using the soft liss treatment, with an FHI flat iron between 410-430
At the wash out stage im going to go to a dominican salon and get a rollerset with a saran treatment.

Please, add any suggestions, pitfalls etc

TIA

Process sounds good. Although you won't need the two friends..lol.. but moral support is always great.

Things I would do if I were you....

Use the flat iron at the hottest temperature if this is your first treatment.
Skip softliss (unless you already bought it)... go right to dreamhair.
The dominican salon is a good idea I think if you are not a good flat ironer. But then that might be too much heat on top of heat...

But I'm sure it will come out nice!

Good luck.

 

[Damaged but not out]

Too late i bought the soft-liss, then everyone and their mother started praising DH.
But im still ok with the purchase, i would rather not have any amount of formaldehyde no matter how small. Sensitive to fumes

I was going to get the final step blowout done at the dominican salon, as a rollerset to avoid the extra heat, a rollerset done under a normal dryer not crazy burn off ur ears dominican dryers.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Dream hair wins on getting my hair straight. The next time I use it, I'm going straight for the roots and I may not do the length at all. I am amazed that my roots are not wooly again by now!! I have all my body back in my hair but its still str8.

Dreamhair got my hair so straight, smooth and that it freaked me out at first!! LOL


I need help from Sheba or anyone who uses perm or semi-perm hair colors and BKT. I need to do something to help cover my grays.

Fab you use Shine Happy with your Cellophanes,does that help the cellophane color grab better because of the peroxide? I think the BKT has a coating on my hair now that the Cellophane can't effectively penetrate anymore. My theory is that's this may be why the BKT washes off my grays so fast now.

Any thoughts ladies?

Good news, my hair is getting thicker. Other news, a lot of new gray is coming in. Hey I'll be 48 next year, it's expected...

 

[*fabulosity*]

Too late i bought the soft-liss, then everyone and their mother started praising DH.
But im still ok with the purchase, i would rather not have any amount of formaldehyde no matter how small. Sensitive to fumes

I was going to get the final step blowout done at the dominican salon, as a rollerset to avoid the extra heat, a rollerset done under a normal dryer not crazy burn off ur ears dominican dryers.

Softliss has more fumes than Dreamhair FYI. Good luck. I'm just giving my honest opinion if I had it to do over again as a first timer I would just do Dreamhair in regards to fumes (hardly any), no heavyweight of hair or stickiness, and better shinier results. Plus it is easy to use too much Softliss... really can't use too much Dreamhair. I just can't say enough good things about it...regardless of where you get it from. But the softliss wasn't horrible... but I'd give it about a 5 now that I'm familiar BKT's and Dreamhair about 9-10. Taking away a point for price and availability.

Dream hair wins on getting my hair straight. The next time I use it, I'm going straight for the roots and I may not do the length at all. I am amazed that my roots are not wooly again by now!! I have all my body back in my hair but its still str8.

Dreamhair got my hair so straight, smooth and that it freaked me out at first!! LOL


I need help from Sheba or anyone who uses perm or semi-perm hair colors and BKT. I need to do something to help cover my grays.

Fab you use Shine Happy with your Cellophanes,does that help the cellophane color grab better because of the peroxide? I think the BKT has a coating on my hair now that the Cellophane can't effectively penetrate anymore. My theory is that's this may be why the BKT washes off my grays so fast now.

Any thoughts ladies?

Good news, my hair is getting thicker. Other news, a lot of new gray is coming in. Hey I'll be 48 next year, it's expected...

Hmm... perhaps... I always clarify like two or three times before I do the cellophane/SH mix.. But I think that my hair is about burgundy brown (from black) from the cellophane never rinsing out and being sealed in by the BKT. I remember before BKTing when I would see color each wash/cowash on the shower walls...now I never see anything and my color is much much more vibrant. Anyone who sees it in person is like DANG..that's shiny hair..

But to answer your question we did it on my mom's grays (Colorshowers negro and shine happy).. the colorshowers didn't adhere to the grays at all .. but the part that was already BKT'ed was darker and shinier so I don't think that the BKT is preventing penetration... the grays are just resistant to like....Anything and everything.

 

[danigurl18]

In the process of doing my 2nd treatment.. I'm trying this sit under the dryer technique because I think it was too much heat last time for me.. I'll post pics as soon as I finish flat ironing

 

[Dak]

In the process of doing my 2nd treatment.. I'm trying this sit under the dryer technique because I think it was too much heat last time for me.. I'll post pics as soon as I finish flat ironing

With the treatment on?

 

[danigurl18]

Well I clarified and the sat under the dryer in braids instead of doing the blow dryer.. then I airdried in braids again and then sat under the dryer for about 5 min.. im following this as my guide

I did my 2nd BKT treatment 3 days ago and washed it out today. Sheba1, you are so right - the second treatment is really the charm. I hated my 1st treatment, LOL! My hair was so dry, the ends were a mess. I wasn't even going to do it again and just relax but I had nothing to do and decided to give it a second shot. This time, everything went perfectly. I have 3c hair now (from root to ends) that allows me to wash and go; the feel of my hair is amazing. I have no clue what 3c heads complain about because compare to my normal 4a hair, it is so EASY to handle and maintain. I see significant difference between my 1st and 2nd BKT.

I made a few changes from the way I did the BKT originally. This is the process I will continue to use because it worked seamlessly.

1. I washed my hair with the clarifying shampoo 3X. While in the shower, I plaited my hair in small parts (to accommodate the treatment one part at a time) instead of having all my hair loose. Plaiting it this way eliminates tangles and the need to blow dry.

2. I airdry my hair until it was about 80% dry. I undo the 1st plait, apply the BKT treatment to that section, move on to the next plait, undo then apply the treatment and so on and so on until strands had the treatment.

Because my hair was 80% dry, the comb was able to glide through my strands easier. I also applied the treatment differently this time. I didn't use a brush. I cut the top off the container bottle that had the treatment and I used a fine teeth rat-tail comb, dipped the comb into the treatment bottle (like a relaxer) and then comb the treatment through my hair. This method worked like a charm. It helped me to not get the product on my scalp and the treatment was better applied to the strands. It wasn't messy as when I used the brush.

3. I then comb through the treatment and if there were any excess in the comb, I wiped it off or apply it again to the ends. After that, I airdry but because it was taking a while to dry, I went under my pibbs dryer for a few minutes until my hair dry. I did not use a blow dryer at anytime.

4. When my hair was dry, I used my maxiglide to flatiron. I now prefer the maxiglide to my sedu because it accommodated bigger sections which allowed me to flat iron really really fast.

My hair was straighter than the first BKT application and I had no dryness issues at all. My ends are so smooth! I kept my hair in scarf at nights and during the day I combed my hair back into a ponytail and put on my half wig. Since I am not interested on wearing my hair straight, I did not worry too much about clipping up my hair during the 3-4 day waiting period.

My hair has gotten thicker now with this second treatment. The strands feel awesome from root to tips. My hair is back to its shiny normal self - it blings, LOL! I am now on my way to some serious hair growing and for the 1st time in a few months, I now can honestly say I have no intention of relaxing my hair. My edges are doing much much better with the BKT - who would have thought!

I purchased a same day wash BKT for $25 so the cost is coming down, which is good. This is music to my ears.

As usual, thanks everyone for all your input in keeping info going about the wonderful world of BKT. I have pics in my fotki of my curls if you are interested. Honestly, I wish the curls I get from BKT was given to me at birth; I would never have relaxed in the first place if my hair was this manageable.

 

[nakialovesshoes]

Hi ladies. I finally finished reading the thread. I decided to just go ahead & read it so I wouldn't be asking stuff that has already been covered. First of all thanks to all of you BKT pros that have stayed in it for the duration of the thread. Your information has been invaluable.

BKT is definitely in my future but I'm cornrowing under wigs until Sept/Oct of next year as well as I'm transitioning out of my curly perm. As soon as I take the cornrows out I'll be doing a BKT. I'm going to keep watching the thread. I'm not interested in straight hair really. I'm looking for a more texturized effect.

I do have 1 question. Pages back, a link was posted for some teflon tape that Dontspeakdefeat uses on her flat iron. Some of you mentioned getting it. Did any of you try it out for yourself? Also, if it works as a heat barrier somewhat on the flat iron, do you think I could wrap it around the hot ceramic/ionic rollers & get the same effect?

TIA...

 

[Eisani]

I'm needing more Dreamhair but it is soooo not in the budget right now! Gonna have to wait a couple more weeks to purchase. I've only worn my hair straightened one time since my last treatment which was right before Thanksgiving. Sigh.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

That's another benefit of the BKT, my edges are full, I wear my hair pulled back now like its nothing!! That's really great! it makes it easy for me to workout, put on a half wig with two inches of my hair out in front and a head band, it's such a good polished look and so eeeaaasssyyy!!!

 

[Eisani]

Hey, did anyone ever chime in about henna and BKT? I need to color this hair and I just don't think a cellophane is gonna cut it. I don't want to waste time.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

^^^I'm scurrd to do a henna, I'm going to look at some other coloring options. The Cellophane does not stick to my grays worth a darn now. I think its the BKT that's not allowing it to penetrate the gray.

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Hey, did anyone ever chime in about henna and BKT? I need to color this hair and I just don't think a cellophane is gonna cut it. I don't want to waste time.

I quit henna because I read somewhere in this thread about it possibly being too much "protien" and causing breakage. I miss my henna. I've just been using semi-permanent color.