Could we have an updated-4a/b roll call? Apologies...

[MonaLisa]

if there has been a thread on this prior (hard to do a search on).

I just wanted to ask this because, although I have some hair idols...their hair isn't that close to mine (with the exception of the ultimate 4a/b idol AJamerican Diva) -- until I thoroughly examined Babygurl's album and was like wow...I can relate to her hair...and she has really inspired me in terms of me making progress as well. I also check mrslee..cause the things her hair likes, mine does as well.

I figure we can learn from each other...I know...things respond differently sometimes to different heads...but then again...sometimes they don't!

I'll start it off...I'm 4a/b...sometimes...it gets more A than b...but dat b is definitely up in there...

My hair is down with:
Poos: Keracare Detangling/CON/NTM

Conditioners:
Moisturizing - Keracare Humecto (tub); NTM; (contemplating Salerm WG Mask based on mrslee's continued results)

Protein - ManeNTail/Aubrey Organics GPB/UBH
Heavy Protein Treatment- Aphoghee (decided to stick with it, it works, smell doesn't bother me at all)

Conditioners for CO Washes/PrePoo Treatments: Suave Milk & Honey, Suave Humectant, White Rain, VO5

Moisturizers: Elasta QP Mango Butter; Surge Woojee; BB Castor Oil and Aloe;
Coconut Softee (thanks to Kitchentician); WGO

Leave-In: NTM Silk Touch

Serum: NTM

I'll Surge when I can remember. Will slap castor oil, coconut oil, profective healthy ends or one of my moisturizers on to protect my ends.

Currently rocking a quick weave as protective style for the winter, if not wearing my own hair out.

 

[nicki6]

Checking in

I am a 4a/b girl

Shampoos:
Affirm

Conditioners:
Suave Humectant

Relaxer:
Soft and Beautiful no-lye

My hair loves Elasta QP mango butter, Africa's Best Olive and Clove oil...and yes...At One hair grease!! I've been surging for 2 weeks, once or twice daily, but haven't noticed any marked improvement.

I usually keep my hair in low ponytail with fake bun cover.

 

[MonaLisa]

Hi Nicki!!! Fellow 4a/b...nice to make your acquaintance!
Thanks for sharing!!

 

[simplycee]

Another 4a/b checking in.

- Motions Oil Moisture Regular Relaxer
- Rotating Kenra, Nexxus and NTM shampoos and Conditioners
- Aubrey's GPB, Keraphix and Emergencee for proteins
- NTM Silk Touch and Giovanni Direct leave ins
- Cantu Shea Butter Daily Moisturizer
- Evoo, Wheat Germ, Castor, Shea Butter and Coconut oils for sealing ends and pre shampoo treatments.

 

[Poohbear]

Hey MonaLisa... 4a (I guess) checkin' in:

My hair is down with...

Shampoos:
Creme of Nature

Conditioners:
Leave-in - Motions Nourish and Salerm21
Conditoner wash - Suave Professionals Humectant
Moisturizing - LeKair Cholesterol Plus mixed with Hot 6 Oil
Light Protein - Elasta QP Breakage Contol Serum
Heavy Protein Treatment- never done one so N/A

Moisturizers:
Water, Motions Salon Herbals Oil Sheen Spray, Wild Growth Hair Oil, EVOO, S-Curl

 

[SexyC]

Hi Mona,
You could be my hair body. I was going to say twin but even though you say your hair is thin , mine is even thinner.
My hair also loves
- Aphogee and UBH
-I use better braids cause I'm wearing braids
-motions hair lotion
-Suave humectant for co washes
Now you make me want to try that keracare humecto for moisture because your hair looks nice and shiny and moist.

 

[MonaLisa]

Hey Ladies!

@Pooh - looking good...and ur lucky that you haven't needed a heavy protein treatment. Ms. Howse put me on to Aphoghee and it's helped me tremendously.
CON...yup! That's definitely been a staple.

I'm also noting so far the use of Suave Humectant for CO Washes.

@ SimplyCee - Feeling you on the NTM Silk Touch Leave In. NTM has been my friend! I'm also a believer now in Aubrey GPB - it's definitely a staple now.

@ Sexy Cee - I'm gonna utilize the Better Braids UnBraid Spray in the future when taking out braids/weave. Thanks much for the compliment as well!
My Humecto/NTM rotation has proven successful for me so I'm sticking with it.

 

[dreemssold]

4B checking in.

Here are my faves for each category:

Shampoos: Nexxus Therappe
NTM

Conditioners: Nexxus Humectress
Biolage Ultra Hydrating Balm

Proteins: Aphogee
Motions CPR

Leave-Ins: Salerm 21 (moisturizing)
Tigi Ego Boost (protein)

Moisturizers: Profectiv Break-Free
Elasta QP Mango Butter

Serum: NTM

Other: SURGE!

 

[MonaLisa]

Hey @ Dreems! Still loving your hair from afar! And it looks good close up too!

See...I'm noticing some similarities in product usage already....I'll keep peeping future responses to see if it keeps up...

 

[TigerLily]

4b here!

My hair likes:

Poo - Suave, MyHoneychild, Elucence, Kenra,KeraSilk, Nexxus
Cond - same brand as the poos
leave-in - Fantasia IC w/Aloe and Myhoneychild Aloe Vera Conditioner.
Moistuizers - SCurl, Myhoneychild - guava hair balm, my hair likes a type 4 cream, honey hair creme, Elasta QP mango butter

 

[sunkissd]

Hello,

4b checking in. I am still tweeking my regimen trying to find products that my hair likes. I'm also working on trying to find protective styles where I don't look like a wreck. So far I use:

Shampoos:

Nexxus Therappe & Botanoil

Conditioners:

Nexxus Humectress & Keraphix

Reconstructors:

Nexxus Emergencee

Leave In:
Salerm

I also use Nexxus Botanic oil and Redken Glass

 

[star]

Hi,

4/a

Shampoo

Sebastian Cello
Eluence
Keracare
K-Pak

Conditoners

2+1 Sebastian (Reconstructor)
Eluence (Moisturizing)
Kercare (Mositurizing)
K-Pak ( Heavey Protien)
Miss Keys (Deep Moisturizing)
UBH (Moisturizing - phasing this out)
GBP ( Lite Protien)

Leave In

Surge
Salerm 21
UBH

 

[Babygurl]

Mona you are so silly! I guess Ill check in!

I'm 4a/b...My 4b is mostly in the crown area.

My hair likes:
Poos: QP Creme Conditioning Shampoo (weekly), QP Scalp Stimualting Shampoo (when I want a tingly scalp treatment), QP Neutralizing Shampoo (when relaxing and to clarify)

Conditioners:
Moisturizing - Humectress, Capilo Milk and Honey Conditioner

Protein - Elasta Qp Breakage Control Serum (bi-weekly), Affirm 5n1 (after my relaxers)
Heavy Protein Treatment- Aphoghee (smell doesn't bother me)

Conditioners for CO Washes: Suave Milk & Honey

Moisturizers: Elasta QP Mango Butter, S-Curl No Drip, Carols Daughter Hair Milk, QP Recovery, Motions Light Oil Moisturizer (every blue moon, I LOVE the smell)

Leave-In: QP Recovery, QP H-two, Humectress

Oils: Coconut and EVOO

Serum: Biosilk Silk Therapy (for flat-ironing)

Im a daily bun wearer and I am sure to wash AND deep condition every 3-4 days. I only flat-iron for progress pictures or very special occassions (usually 3-5 times a year). Im a self-relaxer

 

[KBA]

Hi 4A/B, mostly B on the edges. These products seem to be working pretty good for my hair.

SHampoo:
Keracare 1st Lather Shampoo
Keracare Hydrating Detangling Shampoo

Conditioner: Elucence, Keracare Humecto

Moisturizers/Oils: old school Ultra sheen, Kemi Oil, Mango Butter

Leave In: Elasta QP recovery, Elasta QP H two, Kera Care Leave In, Elasta QP Silk for flat ironing.

 

[Isis]

4b here

Shampoo:
Nexxus Botanoil Shampoo

Conditioners:
Nexxus Humectress Mosturizing Conditioner
Nexxus Headress Leave-in Conditioner
Biolage Leave-in Hair Tonic
Nexxus Keraphix Reconstructer

Moisturizers:
Constant Care for Ends
Water

Oils:
Aveda Anti-Humectant Pomade
Keracare Essential Oil
Coconut oil
Olive oil
Jojoba oil
Essential oils (lavender, ylang ylang, rosemary, tea tree, peppermint)

 

[mrslee]

Hey Mona!!

Shampoos

M/T
Biolage Fortifying

Conditioners

Ultra Hydrating Biolage
M/T
NTM
Salerm Wheat Germ Mask
GPB

Serums

CHI

Leave In

Lacio Lacio
Surge

Oils

Jojoba
Castor
Rosemary
Ylang Ylang

Clarify with Suave brand

 

[MonaLisa]

Aiiight...my lovely 4a/b's are coming out of the woodwork! Luv it!


@Tigerlily - *waving* another check next to Mango Butter on this list! We must be keeping this product on the shelves! Love me some Suave too!

@ Sunkissed - a major Nexxus user among us! hmmmm..lol...You seem to have a good simplified regimen thus far...keep tweaking to find what is really working for you and stick with it. Keep us posted. Wow..and ur praying for D'Angelo. *Brown Sugar babeeeeeee....*

@ Star - lol at u phasing out the UBH Conditioner while I'm phasing it back into my regimen as a conditioner. r u using the Dew as a leave-in??

@ BabyGurl :notworthy - my new hair inspiration! Oh Snaps! The Aphoghee smell doesn't bother u either?!!! I'm not alone! LOL. See...You and Dana are gonna make me return to my Cathy Howse path of washing and conditioning my hair every 3-4 days again (now that I'm thinking about it...my hair was thriving when I did do it...hmmmm)

@ KBA - Down with the Keracare! AIIIIGHT!!! Annnnnddd another checkmark next to Mango Butter!

@ Isis - another big time Nexxus user among us! Hmmm...it's definitely working for you girl! ur hair is gorgeous and THICK! Good Lawd! I don't know why I don't note water as a moisturizer...considering it's what I primarily drink! Lawd knows it's the best moisturizer there is! Anddd...I'm gonna start eating egg whites!

@mrslee - HUG! My fellow NTM/MNT user! U do know I am monitoring this Salerm Wheat Germ Mask phase ur going through...*cough* awaiting further results...lol.

 

[Poohbear]

Hey Ladies!

@Pooh - looking good...and ur lucky that you haven't needed a heavy protein treatment. Ms. Howse put me on to Aphoghee and it's helped me tremendously.
CON...yup! That's definitely been a staple.

I'm also noting so far the use of Suave Humectant for CO Washes.

@Mona - I've been thinking about trying Aphogee but I'm still unsure whether I really need a heavy protein treatment or not. I just ran out of my Elasta QP BCS and I don't think I'll be doing anymore protein treatments from now on. My hair feels the same after a protein treatment as with a conditioner treatment with LeKair w/ H6O.

 

[MonaLisa]

@Mona - I've been thinking about trying Aphogee but I'm still unsure whether I really need a heavy protein treatment or not. I just ran out of my Elasta QP BCS and I don't think I'll be doing anymore protein treatments from now on. My hair feels the same after a protein treatment as with a conditioner treatment with LeKair w/ H6O.

Then you should definitely stick with what is working for you. Everybody doesn't need or require a heavier protein treatment. Pooh knows what works for Pooh's head...especially as your transitioning.

 

[Poohbear]

Then you should definitely stick with what is working for you. Everybody doesn't need or require a heavier protein treatment. Pooh knows what works for Pooh's head...especially as your transitioning.

You're so silly, girl! I'm still learning as I go... happy hair growing!

 

[MonaLisa]

You're so silly, girl! I'm still learning as I go... happy hair growing!

Thank you girl! You know I wish the same for you! I'm monitoring folks! LOL.

 

[MomofThreeBoys]

Another 4A/B checking in

Since proper hair care is still new to me, I'm still trying to figure out what works with my hair.

Shampoo:
Elasta QP Creme Conditioning
Elasta QP Scalp Stimulating (to clarify)
NTM

Conditions:
Nexxus Humectress
NTM
Keracare Humecto (I've tried it once and I really like it)

Leave In:
Nexxus Headress
NTM

Daily Moisturizers:
Scalp: Surge, Suave Conditioner, Castor Oil, Peppermint, Jojoba Oil
Hair: Elasta QP Mango Butter & Profectiv Break Free

 

[senimoni]

Wow thanks for this thread.....I'm making a list of items to get......its getting to big, but thats OK.

Question , how are you guys using your moisturizers and/or oils........ie do you use both, one for your ends and one for the roots, one for the hair, daily or when needed, pre shampoo...I'm lost. I know it sounds stupid for a almost 30 yr old, but I don't know what and how to use it?

 

[MonaLisa]

Wow thanks for this thread.....I'm making a list of items to get......its getting to big, but thats OK.

Question , how are you guys using your moisturizers and/or oils........ie do you use both, one for your ends and one for the roots, one for the hair, daily or when needed, pre shampoo...I'm lost. I know it sounds stupid for a almost 30 yr old, but I don't know what and how to use it?

@natalied - I see ur down with the NTM, Humecto and Mango Butter! Nice, nice!
The 4a/b's seem to be a lover of the Suave cons...nice.

@ Senimoni - Welcome aboard! And no question is stupid especially when ur learning what to do. Okay?! I'm sure the ladies will give there input regarding your question.

I use my moisturizers primarily daily, I use my oils sometimes every two days or when I think my hair needs them. Most importantly...I make sure them ends are moisturized if nothing else. When I moisturize...I moisturize my whole head.

 

[SouthernGirl]

Hey Mona

4a/b checking in!!

My hair loves the following

Shampoos/Conditioners:
MNT: Poo and Cond
Creme of Nature Poo (alternate)
Breakthru Poo (alternate)
LeKair Cholesterol Conditioner

Oils
Wild Growth Oil
Jojoba Oil (100%)

Other
Surge
Vitale Relaxer

That's about all I'm using right now!! I find that for me, less is best

 

[MonaLisa]

Hey Mona

4a/b checking in!!

My hair loves the following

Shampoos/Conditioners:
MNT: Poo and Cond
Creme of Nature Poo (alternate)
Breakthru Poo (alternate)
LeKair Cholesterol Conditioner

Oils
Wild Growth Oil
Jojoba Oil (100%)

Other
Surge
Vitale Relaxer

That's about all I'm using right now!! I find that for me, less is best

HEYYYYYYYYYY CHICA! MUAAAAAAAAH! AND HUGS! SG's regime is definitely working...so urs is a if it ain't broke...lol...

 

[taraglam2]

Hi --- I am a 4b checking in

KENRA Moisturizing Shampoo
KENRA Moisturizing Conditioner
Pantene Instant Conditioner / Detangler - Leave In
REBOUND Instant Moisturizer

AVEDA Anti Humectant Pomade
AVEDA Hang Straight----After week 5 of Relaxer Stretch
DOO GRO Hair Polish Shine Mist

 

[MomofThreeBoys]

Hi --- I am a 4b checking in

KENRA Moisturizing Shampoo
KENRA Moisturizing Conditioner
Pantene Instant Conditioner / Detangler - Leave In
REBOUND Instant Moisturizer

AVEDA Anti Humectant Pomade
AVEDA Hang Straight----After week 5 of Relaxer Stretch
DOO GRO Hair Polish Shine Mist

HI Ebony,

Can you share how you use the AVEDA Hang Straight? What does it do for your hair?

 

[keylargo]

I'm a 4a/b with fine hair. I think distinguishing between fine or coarse texture is helpful.

What I use currently:
Shampoo: Creme of Nature Ultra Moisturizing
NTM

Moisturizing Conditioner: almost ANY Dominican Conditioner my hair loves (Nacidit avocado, Henna Queen Milk & Honey, Rysell tropical coconut, Miss Keys etc.)
Keracare Humecto
NTM Daily Conditioner
Loreal Mega Moisture therapy
Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose

Protein Conditioners: Aubrey Organics GPB
Lafier Proteinol
Aphogee(very rarely used)

Leave-in: Paul Mitchell Awapuhi Moisture Mist
Biolage Leave-in Tonic
NTM silk touch

Daily moisture/finishing producs: oils (jojoba, wildgrowth, safflower)
Hollywood beauty castor oil treatment
Motions Salon Herbals Mango Butter
ORS Jojoba oil
John Freida's Dream curls (for my braid-outs)

 

[bocagirl]

4b (I think)

Shampoos:
CON
NTM

Conditioners:
Nexxus Humectress
Keracare Humecto
NTM Hair Mask

Protein:
Aphogee (smell doesn't bother me)
Nexxus Emergencee
Aubrey GPB
Nexxus Keraphix
Mane N Tail (both this for Cathy Howse conditioner mixture and breakage has slowed down tremendously)

Leave In:
NTM

Serum:
NTM

Moisturisers:
Jojoba Oil
Coconut OIl
Paul Mitchell's Foaming Pommade