Soliel185
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LadyEsquire said:i cosign on this. jojoba seems to seap into the hair shaft better than most oils.![]()
Kurlee said:I wondered this also. Supposedly its composition is almost exactly like sebum. And i f thats what keeps other hair types moisturized, or for some GREASY after one day of not washing, why wouldn't it moisturize? Is it possible that some oils are sealants and some becuase of their compostion can moisturize? When i used jojoba religiously my hair was very soft and moisturized but not greasy. my hair seems to absorb it.
Pokahontas said:I think it does moisturize. It's one of the few oils that can penetrate into the hair strand instead of just sit on top.
Soliel185 said:Okay - hear me out. I know that technically oils don't moisturize - they only seal. But it's been scientifically proven that Jojoba is the closest substance to human sebrum - which is what nature intended to moisturize our hair anyway. The reason why AA hair is dry is that due to its' naturally curly structure the sebrum can't make it all the way down the hair shaft. I've just been noticing that since I started using Jojoba it doesn't make my hair feel the way other oils do - today I flat ironed with no added moisturizer b/c I didn't need it. Just jojoba and a little heat protectant. SO -- do you think it's possible that jojoba is actually a moisturizing oil?
Sistaslick said:But see, sebum is not a moisturizer either though, and like jojoba it is a actually a wax. Sebum is a coating for the hair shaft and skin to protect the hair/skin against moisture loss. It is only meant to waterproof the hair, because what use would it be as a protectant to penetrate? Without it, any moisture we retain would evaporate into the air and we'd be forever dried out. Again, moisturization is ONLY a characteristic of WATER. H2O . Hydration=Moisturization, and you can only hydrate something with water.
Oils repel water, even jojoba and sebum. Softness, shine, and pliablility are characteristics of moisturized hair, and oil can definitely accomplish this for you--but that still is not moisture. Penetration does not equal moisturization either.Lots of things can penetrate the hair (especially damaged or porous hair)-- some proteins, relaxers, color chemicals all penetrate and none of those are moisturizing the hair.
You don't have to use a daily moisturizer per se' to keep the hair moisturized. In fact, I think the best moisturizing is done via your deep conditioning process. When you deep condition, true moisture is able to be asborbed deep to the cortical layers of the hair. Anything you apply after that is helping your hair retain that hydration source. Daily moisturizers help keep moisture levels up if you need extra along the way. I know y'all are tired of me saying this, but oils simply do not moisturize. It is not their chemical nature.
If any of you get a chance, please check out a book by John Halal called Hair Structure and Chemistry Simplified. I strongly encourage you to read this. Amazon has it for about $40 something bucks. You can read all about moisturization for the hair, and the chemical actions of oils. It is a science book, but it is very easy to read.
Sistaslick said:But see, sebum is not a moisturizer either though, and like jojoba it is a actually a wax. Sebum is a coating for the hair shaft and skin to protect the hair/skin against moisture loss. It is only meant to waterproof the hair, because what use would it be as a protectant to penetrate? Without it, any moisture we retain would evaporate into the air and we'd be forever dried out. Again, moisturization is ONLY a characteristic of WATER. H2O . Hydration=Moisturization, and you can only hydrate something with water.
Oils repel water, even jojoba and sebum. Softness, shine, and pliablility are characteristics of moisturized hair, and oil can definitely accomplish this for you--but that still is not moisture. Penetration does not equal moisturization either.Lots of things can penetrate the hair (especially damaged or porous hair)-- some proteins, relaxers, color chemicals all penetrate and none of those are moisturizing the hair.
You don't have to use a daily moisturizer per se' to keep the hair moisturized. In fact, I think the best moisturizing is done via your deep conditioning process. When you deep condition, true moisture is able to be asborbed deep to the cortical layers of the hair. Anything you apply after that is helping your hair retain that hydration source. Daily moisturizers help keep moisture levels up if you need extra along the way. I know y'all are tired of me saying this, but oils simply do not moisturize. It is not their chemical nature.
If any of you get a chance, please check out a book by John Halal called Hair Structure and Chemistry Simplified. I strongly encourage you to read this. Amazon has it for about $40 something bucks. You can read all about moisturization for the hair, and the chemical actions of oils. It is a science book, but it is very easy to read.
LocksOfLuV said:Wow! She does it again.![]()
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But seriously, I think people are getting moisture and lubrication mixed up. Both of them feels good as hell, but are oh so different.
Soliel185 said:Okay - hear me out. I know that technically oils don't moisturize - they only seal. But it's been scientifically proven that Jojoba is the closest substance to human sebrum - which is what nature intended to moisturize our hair anyway. The reason why AA hair is dry is that due to its' naturally curly structure the sebrum can't make it all the way down the hair shaft. I've just been noticing that since I started using Jojoba it doesn't make my hair feel the way other oils do - today I flat ironed with no added moisturizer b/c I didn't need it. Just jojoba and a little heat protectant. SO -- do you think it's possible that jojoba is actually a moisturizing oil?
Kurlee said:i add ylang ylang to it for scent and if im gonna braid my hair (my own hair), i use it. Sometimes i use it on my ends on before i slick my hair back under gel. Or when i wear my hair striaght. its the best at keeping it soft.
Pokahontas said:I think it does moisturize. It's one of the few oils that can penetrate into the hair strand instead of just sit on top.
LovetheLord said:I agree it is an essential oil. So yes it does moisturize, funny you mention this, because I was going to start using this and olive oil as moisturizer along with some leave in conditioner QP anyway this stuff is great! I used it for my daughter too! she is 6 months old.
Sistaslick said:But see, sebum is not a moisturizer either though, and like jojoba it is a actually a wax. Sebum is a coating for the hair shaft and skin to protect the hair/skin against moisture loss. It is only meant to waterproof the hair, because what use would it be as a protectant to penetrate? Without it, any moisture we retain would evaporate into the air and we'd be forever dried out. Again, moisturization is ONLY a characteristic of WATER. H2O . Hydration=Moisturization, and you can only hydrate something with water.
Oils repel water, even jojoba and sebum. Softness, shine, and pliablility are characteristics of moisturized hair, and oil can definitely accomplish this for you--but that still is not moisture. Penetration does not equal moisturization either.Lots of things can penetrate the hair (especially damaged or porous hair)-- some proteins, relaxers, color chemicals all penetrate and none of those are moisturizing the hair.
You don't have to use a daily moisturizer per se' to keep the hair moisturized. In fact, I think the best moisturizing is done via your deep conditioning process. When you deep condition, true moisture is able to be asborbed deep to the cortical layers of the hair. Anything you apply after that is helping your hair retain that hydration source. Daily moisturizers help keep moisture levels up if you need extra along the way. I know y'all are tired of me saying this, but oils simply do not moisturize. It is not their chemical nature.
If any of you get a chance, please check out a book by John Halal called Hair Structure and Chemistry Simplified. I strongly encourage you to read this. Amazon has it for about $40 something bucks. You can read all about moisturization for the hair, and the chemical actions of oils. It is a science book, but it is very easy to read.