Safe way to pony tail?

[Aerie17]

For the last two weeks I have been wearing a phony pony. I will be doing this for at least the first two weeks after every relaxer as my hair straightens in no time and being fine, won't do a thing. I have been completely avoiding heat for about the last month, so this is all I can come up with at the moment for a style that doesn't look like my finger is permanently in a socket...
I am concerned about breaking my hair where it is gathered. No breakage yet, but is there a safe elastic that is KNOWN not to break hair? I am varying the place where my hair is gathered and I take it down as soon as I get home, trying to be careful. Any recs?

 

[lunalight7]

I'm worried about the same thing aerie. I recently tried a braid out because Id been wearing my new phonytail bun for about a week and I was concerned about breakage and thinning on the edges...

 

[Guest]

Aerie,

I have the same concern. Wearing my hair down was causing facial breakouts so I have decided to wear the phonytail everyday. I have concern about breakage so I do take it down everyday and change the location. I also wear the hair loose at night. I think the key is making sure the phonytail is loose enough so that the hair doesn't break under tension.

 

[Nonie]

I'm assuming you guys are talking about wearing your hair in a bun and then attaching a fake pony? If that's what you mean, would it work if you put your hair in a single braid instead and then tuck it under before applying the fake pony? I apologize if this suggestion isn't achievable.

I've never worn a fake pony and my hair is natural and in braids. I do put my braids in a single pony braid though, which I tuck under, and that doesn't pull on the hair at my hairline. That's why I thought it might be a good break for your hairline; plus you don't need an elastic to hold your hair at the "meeting point".

 

[Guest]

Nonie,

I put my natural hair in a pony tail, curl the ends with rollers and attach a pony tail hair clip. My breakage occurred at the back. I think you have to have quite a bit of hair to hold a drawstring pontytail in place. I never could get it to stay or look even half way real.

 

[sassygirl125]

I use cut up pantyhose and tights as ponytail holders. I put the comb on the fake pony underneath the ponytail holder--not through my hair and scraping along my scalp.

I use two giant, open ended hair pins on the bottom of the fake piece. And I keep my edges extra moisturized by applying a mix of Carolyn Gray's hair oil and Jamaican black castor oil at night.

 

[lunalight7]

Nonie, thats a GREAT idea....Im gonna try it. I make a bun w/ my phony pony so this would work! Thanx!

 

[Aerie17]

sassygirl125,
Do you ever notice any hair in the pantyhose thingies? This sounds like a great idea! Thanks!

 

[Aerie17]

lunalight7,
How did your braid-out come out? I did one once, but was roundly criticized by my son! LOL

Had that horizontal thing goin'on instead of hanging down!!

 

[Aerie17]

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nonie said:
I'm assuming you guys are talking about wearing your hair in a bun and then attaching a fake pony? If that's what you mean, would it work if you put your hair in a single braid instead and then tuck it under before applying the fake pony? I apologize if this suggestion isn't achievable.

I've never worn a fake pony and my hair is natural and in braids. I do put my braids in a single pony braid though, which I tuck under, and that doesn't pull on the hair at my hairline. That's why I thought it might be a good break for your hairline; plus you don't need an elastic to hold your hair at the "meeting point".

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Hmmm,
Nonie, I am going to try that also..sounds like a good idea!

 

[Aerie17]

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Bett1e said:
Nonie,

I put my natural hair in a pony tail, curl the ends with rollers and attach a pony tail hair clip. My breakage occurred at the back. I think you have to have quite a bit of hair to hold a drawstring pontytail in place. I never could get it to stay or look even half way real.

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Bett1e,

I make a ponytail too, with my natural hair and "catch" the end of it with the elastic on the second loop, if you know what I mean, to keep the ends tucked under. I then pull the drawstring up to secure it and then pin it with hairpins. I then put a scrunchie around the phony pony as if it were all mine (well it is, I paid for it). It seems to look more natural this way since the scrunchie adds a line of demarcation between the texture of the phony pony and my hair. My hair is not nearly that silky, after week two post-relaxer and multiple shampoos, but I make sure the color is dead-on; it is remarkable how close I can get the textures to match with that scrunchie separating the two textures!

 

[Sky]

ugh this happened to me except without the phony pony. I exprienced A LOT of breakage around the band where the ponytail gathers. I am no longer wearing my hair in a ponytail until I get it under control and even then it will be a very , very loose ponytail. My hair type (4b) is fragile(but I have very thick hair) . Right now I am wearing my hair in one and two french braids - no more ponytails for me!

 

[Ayeshia]

use a jaw clip as a pony tail....not the long ones but the circular ones that you have to squeeze to open. They arent tight and dont leave a nasty dent...ive been using them for a year and i havent had breakage where i normally get it from elastic bands....or just wrap your elastic band no more than twice its sort of like a loose ponytail...the edges are still smooth and it eliminates those awful pony migranes that sum of us get when its so tight.

 

[sassygirl125]

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Aerie17 said:
sassygirl125,
Do you ever notice any hair in the pantyhose thingies?

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Nope. I made mine out of a pair of lycra/spandex tights. They are fairly slippery. I also like the bootleg Blax elastics made by Goody and Scunci. But they are always too small or too big.

 

[Guest]

Ayeshia,

My new techique is to put the clip on the hair in the elastic and not on the hair coming from the scalp.
I think this will avoid future breakage but I don't know. I have to post my new setback.

 

[Aerie17]

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ayeshia said:
use a jaw clip as a pony tail....not the long ones but the circular ones that you have to squeeze to open. They arent tight and dont leave a nasty dent...ive been using them for a year and i havent had breakage where i normally get it from elastic bands....or just wrap your elastic band no more than twice its sort of like a loose ponytail...the edges are still smooth and it eliminates those awful pony migranes that sum of us get when its so tight.

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ayeshia,
I would love to tryh this, but I don't know what the jaw clip pony tail is...do you have a picture? I have been getting those headaches, too, so I know it's too tight. Thanks!

 

[Aerie17]

bump!

 

[Sky]

Doesnt your hair have to be kind of long to do a jaw clip? Unless I am thinking of some other accessory.

 

[Guest]

YOu put your hair in a ponytail and then clip the jaw clip to the elastic. YOur hair just has to be long enough to be put in an elastic.

 

[Sky]

I am still confuseud. My hair is a little past my shoulders. Putting my hair in the pony tail wrapper ( elastic) is what caused breakage so I guess this wouldnt work for me. I need a way to put my hair in a ponytail without using any elastic or stress on the part where I gather my hair. I could do a loose ponytail but I get real anal about fly aways!

 

[Guest]

Sky,

Ponytails are my enemies as well but I don't like my hair flying everywhere throughout the day so I wear the phonytails.

 

[Ayeshia]

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Aerie17 said:
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ayeshia said:
use a jaw clip as a pony tail....not the long ones but the circular ones that you have to squeeze to open. They arent tight and dont leave a nasty dent...ive been using them for a year and i havent had breakage where i normally get it from elastic bands....or just wrap your elastic band no more than twice its sort of like a loose ponytail...the edges are still smooth and it eliminates those awful pony migranes that sum of us get when its so tight.

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ayeshia,
I would love to tryh this, but I don't know what the jaw clip pony tail is...do you have a picture? I have been getting those headaches, too, so I know it's too tight. Thanks!

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sowwy unfortunately i dont have a pic but those clips are at the hair supply stores for like 50 cents each maybe i could look for a pic on the internet....ill get back to ya on this one

 

[Ayeshia]

heres a pic of them: except i have the ones that are bigger because my hair is chin length and very thick

here it is

 

[Sky]

Okay I am familiar with those but how do you use them? If I put my hair in a pony tail first it pulls it.

 

[Guest]

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sassygirl125 said:
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Aerie17 said:
sassygirl125,
Do you ever notice any hair in the pantyhose thingies?

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Nope. I made mine out of a pair of lycra/spandex tights. They are fairly slippery. I also like the bootleg Blax elastics made by Goody and Scunci. But they are always too small or too big.

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Okay, I found what works for me. I put UBH on the hair; held the hair in a pony tail; tied a black knee high around the hair (ponytail); went to sleep with a scarf and I woke up the pony tail was very neat. I then attached the butterfly clip phony tail to the stocking and the hair is not pulling at all and there is no tension. I think the stocking method is the best way to keep the tension and breakage limited if you wear a fake pony tail.

 

[CrownnGlori]

I have to say that the pantyhose holders are truly no snag. They just slide right out of your hair.

 

[Guest]

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CrownnGlori said:
I have to say that the pantyhose holders are truly no snag. They just slide right out of your hair.

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Exactly, and I never would have tried it if it wasn't for this thread. That black knee high has been laying on my dresser for years unused. Today, I finally got to use it.

 

[Ayeshia]

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Sky said:
Okay I am familiar with those but how do you use them? If I put my hair in a pony tail first it pulls it.

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I jst slick my hair bac and clamp them on the base part of my ponytail (w/o elastic)...thats it...or i twist my hair into a bun and clamp it