texturizer vs relaxer

[michelle21]

Hi ladies have a question, i have about 3 inches of growth from Oct. (last time i relaxed) and i am kinda stuck between relaxing it (i really do not want the bone straight look) or texturizing it (just to stretch the growth a bit) can anyone help. Thankx

 

[Ennyaa]

Michelle I think it's all gonna depend on your preference and how you want to be able to style your hair. I have only recently (Nov) started the transition from relaxer to texturizer and so far I really like it. I did this because my hair just felt bodiless to me when it was bone straight and I hope to one day be able to wash and wear and have some nice waves in my hair. Actually it's hard to tell much of a difference between the two textures so far and I have no intention of cutting off my relaxed ends for a while. But my hair definitely has more body and fullness to it than usual. Even my stylist commented on it after she texturized me the first time. Hopefully I will continue to see this trend when I go for my next one in a month. Hope this helps some.

 

[CynamonKis]

Does a "texturizer" get your hair straight? Which ones do you use?

I read somewhere (see below for website) that if you use a texturizer over previously-relaxed hair, that it will "disintegrate" the relaxed hair. Because I've been using Bodiphier for the last few months, does this qualify as a 'relaxer" that may lead to disintegration when used with a texturizer?

http://www.geocities.com/blackhairsupergrowout/subclubs/rchat3.htm

 

[caress]

Here are a couple of articles about Texturizers:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/relaxedhaircare/files/Texturizers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/relaxedhaircare/files/Texturizers2.html

 

[Ennyaa]

A texturizer is nothing more than a mild relaxer left on for a short amount of time. All it does it loosen your natural curl/wave it's not supposed to get your hair super straight. That's what regular relaxers are for. It should NOT be applied over previously relaxed hair just like a touch up should NOT be applied over previously relaxed hair. But I doubt it would "disentegrate" your hair if it was overlapped some. I wonder where you read that?

 

[Guest]

I had the same decision to make too. Whether I wanted to stick with a relaxer or convert to a texturizer. I stayed with the relaxer for fear of the different textures breaking off, and also, I can monitor my growth better with the relaxer. But my hair still turns out wavy even after I get the touch-up with a pull-through might I add. Oh well. /images/graemlins/ohwell.gif

 

[CynamonKis]

Ennyaa here's the link and the article actually used the word "disintegrate" when discussing use of a texturizer over previously relaxed hair....

Link: http://www.geocities.com/blackhairsupergrowout/subclubs/rchat3.htm

Ennyaa said:

A texturizer is nothing more than a mild relaxer left on for a short amount of time. All it does it loosen your natural curl/wave it's not supposed to get your hair super straight. That's what regular relaxers are for. It should NOT be applied over previously relaxed hair just like a touch up should NOT be applied over previously relaxed hair. But I doubt it would "disentegrate" your hair if it was overlapped some. I wonder where you read that?

 

[Jaquai]

hello
i think this article refers to using a thio based texturizer/relaxer over a lye or nolye based relaxer. if you have a lye based relaxer and intend to keep texturizing with a nolye/lye product then you shouldnt have to worry about the hair disintegrating.
hope this helps
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[LondonDiva]

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Jaquai said:
If you have a lye based relaxer and intend to keep texturizing with a nolye/lye product then you shouldnt have to worry about the hair disintegrating.
hope this helps
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Jaquai this is false information in my opinion. If I was to texturise my lye relaxed hair with a lye product it will continue to break down that hair shaft each time the product is applied, until it will eventually break off or thin out. The molecular structure of the hair is changed and the bonds in the hair are altered each and every time whether it's lye or no lye used.

Furthermore once you use a no-lye relaxer again over no lye relaxed hair the hair does not come out any straighter or easier to manage. Once washed out the pattern of the hair remains locked so nothin can alter it again. Although the product will continue to dry it out and cause breakage.

 

[Jaquai]

hello yeah your right about that but i wasnt really talking about rerelaxing over and over again. i was just letting her know why they said the hair would disintegrate. i wasnt telling her to texturize already relaxed hair.

i was speaking with the idea that she intended to start texturizing her NEW GROWTH only and grow out the bone straight relaxer. and you know that it is really hard not to overlap at least a little so say if she applied a thio based relaxer after having already relaxed with nolye\lye then her hair will most definitely break off at the point where they meet.

because no amount of conditioner,grease or whatever a person may use to help with overlapping is going to prevent it. it is true that you will damage your hair by relaxing a relaxer but it may not be as noticable. but if you put a thio over a lye or vice versa the damage is most certainly going to be noticed. and really when you apply any relaxer or chemical it is damaging the hair.
sorry for any confusion
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[LondonDiva]

No problem Jaquai, thanks for clearing that up for me by what /images/graemlins/mad.gif you meant.

 

[Jenai]

Karonica, are you getting a pull-through each time you relax? Curious because I thought this wouldn't be necessary if the hair was thoroughly processed the first time. I recently had a touchup and corrective pull-through and thought that this would be a one-time thing unless the hair was underprocessed at some point.

 

[CynamonKis]

Re: texturizer vs relaxer (amonium bisulfate)

From all of the cautions by other product manufacturers that I have read, I am very cautious about thio-based texturizers.

Has anyone tried any texturizers that are amonium bisulfate-based, such as Curl Free? It has a ph of 7.6. I think it was one of the 1st relaxers ever made, back in the day. It is manufactured by Toni.