Last week I went to the woman that did my hair as a child and she mentioned that my hair was extremely porous mushy feeling and probably would not remain straight. I had been deep conditioning my hair for 30 minutes everytime I wash it. Have I over conditioned? AM I correct in assuming that when she said my hair is porous she meant that the cuticles are open? And if that is indeed the case shouldn't a simple ACV rinse solve the problem? Could this also be the reason my hair is tangling so badly? Sorry for all of the questions guys but she has me kind of paranoid.
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What do I do about porous hair?
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SandySea
New Member
I read that the conditioner Porosity Control (or something like that) will help to restore the hair's proper state. It's sold at Sally's in the deep conditioner section. My hair started feeling a bit porous after too many CW's. I think that a good deep conditioner aimed at restoring porosity will solve the problem for you.
Carlie
New Member
I was going to mention the same thing SandySea. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Is this the product you're referring to?
Porosity Control
You can also try using some Aubrey GPB.
Porosity Control
You can also try using some Aubrey GPB.
SandySea
New Member
Yes Carlie, that's exactly what I'm referring to. I once had a roommate who raved about it. I liked it, but at the time I didn't understand what it was for. I'll probably use it when I stop wearing braids. It also comes in a small bottle if you don't want to invest in the larger size.
Isis
New Member
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Carlie said:
I was going to mention the same thing SandySea. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Is this the product you're referring to?
Porosity Control
You can also try using some Aubrey GPB.
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Is this used after shampooing and before deep conditioning again? Or is it used in place of the deep conditioner?
Carlie said:
I was going to mention the same thing SandySea. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Is this the product you're referring to?
Porosity Control
You can also try using some Aubrey GPB.
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Is this used after shampooing and before deep conditioning again? Or is it used in place of the deep conditioner?
Isis
New Member
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Carlie said:
I'm not sure if you're supposed to deep condition after using this conditioner. I know they make a shampoo to go along w. the conditioner and according to the site, the instructions say to use their shampoo first and then follow up with the conditioner.
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Thank you! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Carlie said:
I'm not sure if you're supposed to deep condition after using this conditioner. I know they make a shampoo to go along w. the conditioner and according to the site, the instructions say to use their shampoo first and then follow up with the conditioner.
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Thank you! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Once in a very blue moon I use CON's porosity corrector (yellow bottle with blue writing). I'm not sure if I need to do it I just use it anyways. I got it back in the relaxer days..it's about 6-7 years old. Not 100% sure if they sell it anymore. I used it back then since my hair was over processed. I don't think I need it now...but I used it since I'm trying to use up old conditioners /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
miss_brown
New Member
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Isis said:
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Carlie said:
I was going to mention the same thing SandySea. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Is this the product you're referring to?
Porosity Control
You can also try using some Aubrey GPB.
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Is this used after shampooing and before deep conditioning again? Or is it used in place of the deep conditioner?
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I think some people also mix Porosity Control with a regular deep conditioner and use it like that /images/graemlins/smile.gif IIRC, brownrelaxedhair used it like that.
Isis said:
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Carlie said:
I was going to mention the same thing SandySea. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Is this the product you're referring to?
Porosity Control
You can also try using some Aubrey GPB.
[/ QUOTE ]
Is this used after shampooing and before deep conditioning again? Or is it used in place of the deep conditioner?
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I think some people also mix Porosity Control with a regular deep conditioner and use it like that /images/graemlins/smile.gif IIRC, brownrelaxedhair used it like that.
@Tai
I did braid outs for 7 weeks straight and just recently used direct heat. However, around this time last year she had the same observation. So if using too much heat has anything to do with having porous hair I could definitely see that as being the explanation. B/c it wasn't until right before you did the texturizer for me that I attempted to not use heat. I am going to go get the porosity control tomorrow and rollerset my hair and let it air dry. Hopefully this will cause me not to have the reversion as much.
I did braid outs for 7 weeks straight and just recently used direct heat. However, around this time last year she had the same observation. So if using too much heat has anything to do with having porous hair I could definitely see that as being the explanation. B/c it wasn't until right before you did the texturizer for me that I attempted to not use heat. I am going to go get the porosity control tomorrow and rollerset my hair and let it air dry. Hopefully this will cause me not to have the reversion as much.
onepraying
Healthy Hair Quest..
Can someone please explain porous and nonporous hair to me? The causes? Symptoms etc.? Is it like Tippy said that the cuticle is open?
I thought I understood but after reading this thread I don't think I get it.
Thanks-
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I thought I understood but after reading this thread I don't think I get it.
Thanks-
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UPDATE:
Thanks to all of those that recommended the porosity control. I went to Sally's yesterday and bought it ($8 for a big bottle). I washed my hair the way I normally would and put the porosity control on there and left it for about a minute. My hair felt like butter and the comb out was the easiest it has ever been. Since I have been on this hair care journey I can not ever remember having had such an enjoyable experience. My hair has shrinkage in some areas that is so bad until my own mother does not want to help me detangle /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif and that dang porosity control did the trick! I rollerset my hair and sat under a dryer for about 30 minutes and let it air dry the rest of the way put some wildgrowth oil on it and wrapped it. Oh let me also mention that it took my hair less than half the normal amount of time to dry. This morning my hair looks as though i went to a salon and got it pressed /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif. I just feel so empowered right about now b/c I thought I would never be able to detangle my hair without pulling it all out or do a rollerset. My hair looks so good that my husband noticed without me even having to mention it! Any way, I just gotta say it loud and say it proud. LHCF is the best!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to all of those that recommended the porosity control. I went to Sally's yesterday and bought it ($8 for a big bottle). I washed my hair the way I normally would and put the porosity control on there and left it for about a minute. My hair felt like butter and the comb out was the easiest it has ever been. Since I have been on this hair care journey I can not ever remember having had such an enjoyable experience. My hair has shrinkage in some areas that is so bad until my own mother does not want to help me detangle /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif and that dang porosity control did the trick! I rollerset my hair and sat under a dryer for about 30 minutes and let it air dry the rest of the way put some wildgrowth oil on it and wrapped it. Oh let me also mention that it took my hair less than half the normal amount of time to dry. This morning my hair looks as though i went to a salon and got it pressed /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif. I just feel so empowered right about now b/c I thought I would never be able to detangle my hair without pulling it all out or do a rollerset. My hair looks so good that my husband noticed without me even having to mention it! Any way, I just gotta say it loud and say it proud. LHCF is the best!!!!!!!!!!
candibaby
New Member
hmm I remember talking to my stylist about this the last time I got a touch-up, because I did a porosity test on my hair and only my colored ends were porous. She told me to use Porosity Control. I never thought about it again until now.. so today I went out and bought a bottle of the conditioner. Thanks you guys!
stacy
Active Member
Porosity
In a normal, undamaged hair shaft, very little water can get either into or out of the cortex. This is because the cuticle covering the cortex is intact, and is then almost (but not quite) waterproof. Shampoos do not damage the
cuticle. When hair is permed or tinted, however, the chemicals have to penetrate the cortex in order to react with the keratin inside it. Increasing the temperature, or applying an alkaline lotion, separates the scales of the cuticle enough to allow the chemicals to pass through. After the processing is finished the scales gradually close up again.
But if hair is processed too many times the cuticle scales may never return to their original tightness and the protection they once offered is lost. The cuticle can also be damaged in the same way by too much blow drying, curling irons that are too hot, and the effects of wind and sun. The hair becomes increasingly porous, and water can then pass in and out of the cortex.
Over-porous hair is dry, and tends to develop split ends. The damaged cuticle is fragile, and the damage worsens as time goes by. The greater the damage, the more the cortex swells with water whenever the hair is washed, but the more water it loses when it dries. The repeated wetting and drying of the cortex gradually weakens the hair.
Sun, previous chemicals, blow drying, alkaline shampoos, inactive or low active thyroid gland and diet low in protein all contribute to porous hair.
In a normal, undamaged hair shaft, very little water can get either into or out of the cortex. This is because the cuticle covering the cortex is intact, and is then almost (but not quite) waterproof. Shampoos do not damage the
cuticle. When hair is permed or tinted, however, the chemicals have to penetrate the cortex in order to react with the keratin inside it. Increasing the temperature, or applying an alkaline lotion, separates the scales of the cuticle enough to allow the chemicals to pass through. After the processing is finished the scales gradually close up again.
But if hair is processed too many times the cuticle scales may never return to their original tightness and the protection they once offered is lost. The cuticle can also be damaged in the same way by too much blow drying, curling irons that are too hot, and the effects of wind and sun. The hair becomes increasingly porous, and water can then pass in and out of the cortex.
Over-porous hair is dry, and tends to develop split ends. The damaged cuticle is fragile, and the damage worsens as time goes by. The greater the damage, the more the cortex swells with water whenever the hair is washed, but the more water it loses when it dries. The repeated wetting and drying of the cortex gradually weakens the hair.
Sun, previous chemicals, blow drying, alkaline shampoos, inactive or low active thyroid gland and diet low in protein all contribute to porous hair.
Is there some sort of porosity test that one can do to find out if their hair is porus? I find that my hair dries very quicklya and I tend to get a lot of split ends even though I rarely use heat.
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stacy said:
Porosity
In a normal, undamaged hair shaft, very little water can get either into or out of the cortex. This is because the cuticle covering the cortex is intact, and is then almost (but not quite) waterproof. Shampoos do not damage the
cuticle. When hair is permed or tinted, however, the chemicals have to penetrate the cortex in order to react with the keratin inside it. Increasing the temperature, or applying an alkaline lotion, separates the scales of the cuticle enough to allow the chemicals to pass through. After the processing is finished the scales gradually close up again.
But if hair is processed too many times the cuticle scales may never return to their original tightness and the protection they once offered is lost. The cuticle can also be damaged in the same way by too much blow drying, curling irons that are too hot, and the effects of wind and sun. The hair becomes increasingly porous, and water can then pass in and out of the cortex.
Over-porous hair is dry, and tends to develop split ends. The damaged cuticle is fragile, and the damage worsens as time goes by. The greater the damage, the more the cortex swells with water whenever the hair is washed, but the more water it loses when it dries. The repeated wetting and drying of the cortex gradually weakens the hair.
Sun, previous chemicals, blow drying, alkaline shampoos, inactive or low active thyroid gland and diet low in protein all contribute to porous hair.
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stacy said:
Porosity
In a normal, undamaged hair shaft, very little water can get either into or out of the cortex. This is because the cuticle covering the cortex is intact, and is then almost (but not quite) waterproof. Shampoos do not damage the
cuticle. When hair is permed or tinted, however, the chemicals have to penetrate the cortex in order to react with the keratin inside it. Increasing the temperature, or applying an alkaline lotion, separates the scales of the cuticle enough to allow the chemicals to pass through. After the processing is finished the scales gradually close up again.
But if hair is processed too many times the cuticle scales may never return to their original tightness and the protection they once offered is lost. The cuticle can also be damaged in the same way by too much blow drying, curling irons that are too hot, and the effects of wind and sun. The hair becomes increasingly porous, and water can then pass in and out of the cortex.
Over-porous hair is dry, and tends to develop split ends. The damaged cuticle is fragile, and the damage worsens as time goes by. The greater the damage, the more the cortex swells with water whenever the hair is washed, but the more water it loses when it dries. The repeated wetting and drying of the cortex gradually weakens the hair.
Sun, previous chemicals, blow drying, alkaline shampoos, inactive or low active thyroid gland and diet low in protein all contribute to porous hair.
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shawniegee
New Cut for '09
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stacy said:
Porosity
In a normal, undamaged hair shaft, very little water can get either into or out of the cortex. This is because the cuticle covering the cortex is intact, and is then almost (but not quite) waterproof. Shampoos do not damage the
cuticle. When hair is permed or tinted, however, the chemicals have to penetrate the cortex in order to react with the keratin inside it. Increasing the temperature, or applying an alkaline lotion, separates the scales of the cuticle enough to allow the chemicals to pass through. After the processing is finished the scales gradually close up again.
But if hair is processed too many times the cuticle scales may never return to their original tightness and the protection they once offered is lost. The cuticle can also be damaged in the same way by too much blow drying, curling irons that are too hot, and the effects of wind and sun. The hair becomes increasingly porous, and water can then pass in and out of the cortex.
Over-porous hair is dry, and tends to develop split ends. The damaged cuticle is fragile, and the damage worsens as time goes by. The greater the damage, the more the cortex swells with water whenever the hair is washed, but the more water it loses when it dries. The repeated wetting and drying of the cortex gradually weakens the hair.
Sun, previous chemicals, blow drying, alkaline shampoos, inactive or low active thyroid gland and diet low in protein all contribute to porous hair.
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Thanks Stacy, very informative!! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
stacy said:
Porosity
In a normal, undamaged hair shaft, very little water can get either into or out of the cortex. This is because the cuticle covering the cortex is intact, and is then almost (but not quite) waterproof. Shampoos do not damage the
cuticle. When hair is permed or tinted, however, the chemicals have to penetrate the cortex in order to react with the keratin inside it. Increasing the temperature, or applying an alkaline lotion, separates the scales of the cuticle enough to allow the chemicals to pass through. After the processing is finished the scales gradually close up again.
But if hair is processed too many times the cuticle scales may never return to their original tightness and the protection they once offered is lost. The cuticle can also be damaged in the same way by too much blow drying, curling irons that are too hot, and the effects of wind and sun. The hair becomes increasingly porous, and water can then pass in and out of the cortex.
Over-porous hair is dry, and tends to develop split ends. The damaged cuticle is fragile, and the damage worsens as time goes by. The greater the damage, the more the cortex swells with water whenever the hair is washed, but the more water it loses when it dries. The repeated wetting and drying of the cortex gradually weakens the hair.
Sun, previous chemicals, blow drying, alkaline shampoos, inactive or low active thyroid gland and diet low in protein all contribute to porous hair.
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Thanks Stacy, very informative!! /images/graemlins/smile.gif
No I never did a corrective. I am trying to ensure that my hair is in the best possible condition. I am just now figuring out just how damaged my hair is from allowing people to press it using so much heat so I figured that it is best that I pamper it a while. I have really gotten the hang of braid outs too so that is helping me wait it out.
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