Mud Hair Wash=NO DC?

[faithVA]

There are a few things I notice I can do that I wasn't able to do before the detox.

I can now mid-week get in the shower and rinse my hair with just water and it comes out just like I washed it. I've done that twice this week. So I have been able to just put leave-in in my hair and style it. Before I would have to do the whole shampoo regimen which took me forever. So I would have to plan a day to do my hair.

Secondly, I've always washed my hair loose because although I could get my hair into 6 to 8 barrettes, when the water hit it (even without shampoo) my hair would expand so much that the barrettes would pop off. And when they came off I couldn't get them back on because it puffed up and shrunk up at the same time. Now I can put 4 barrettes on (Its still not long enough to braid or twist) and my hair does what other ytbers hair does. It gets weighted down by the water and actually stretches.

I am loving my hair right now.

 

[hair4today]

OK LADIESSS!!! I found the mud wash in a store here in ATLANTA for $15.00. She also has many other natural products I always wanted to try but refused to pay shipping. Store name Sage Naturalcuticals.
So I purchased the lemon and will start my detox tonight!!! **DOES HAPPY DANCE** ;-)

Sage Naturalceuticals has an online store also. I've ordered from them before. They carry a good cross section of natural products, Oyin, Bee Mine, Komaza etc. Being from Canada this has been my main place to shop for a variety of natural products. I didn't know Sage carried the Terressentials mud wash as its not showing as one of their online brands. From my experience, this is a great store, great customer service and fast shipping. the owner is very accommodating so perhaps she would be open to offering an LHCF discount if the TE folks aren't prepared to do so. Here's the link http://www.sagenaturalceuticals.com/shop/index.php. if y'all want to check it out.

 

[hair4today]

There are a few things I notice I can do that I wasn't able to do before the detox.

I can now mid-week get in the shower and rinse my hair with just water and it comes out just like I washed it. I've done that twice this week. So I have been able to just put leave-in in my hair and style it. Before I would have to do the whole shampoo regimen which took me forever. So I would have to plan a day to do my hair.

Secondly, I've always washed my hair loose because although I could get my hair into 6 to 8 barrettes, when the water hit it (even without shampoo) my hair would expand so much that the barrettes would pop off. And when they came off I couldn't get them back on because it puffed up and shrunk up at the same time. Now I can put 4 barrettes on (Its still not long enough to braid or twist) and my hair does what other ytbers hair does. It gets weighted down by the water and actually stretches.

I am loving my hair right now.

wow your hair sounds like its done a complete 360, you must be so happy -- do you have any before and after pics to share?

 

[faithVA]

wow your hair sounds like its done a complete 360, you must be so happy -- do you have any before and after pics to share?

I do have pictures before and after detox but it doesn't look any different on camera. That's either because my camera isn't any good or I'm a lousy photographer. Or probably both.

Before the detox it looks like a bushy fro. After the detox it looks like a busy fro. Like I said I'm a 4b.

But next time I mudwash I will take a pic in my 4 pompoms.

But if you really want to see my lousy pictures I will post them tomorrow.

 

[JudithO]

I have the dryest 4b/4z hair I can think of... If it worked for me (and it did) it will work for you. See my fotki and youtube for my hair texture... goodluck.

I'm thinking about purchasing. I'm 4b, fine hair, medium density. Dry as ever. Read this whole entire thread.

I'm about 6 - 7inches so I don't mind doing the detox washes. If my hair was longer, I'd chuck up the deuces to be honest.

I'm gonna read more reviews for other 4b/4c's that have porous hair.... I'm kinda convinced, but still... I need more examples of 4bs working with mud

 

[hair4romheaven]

hair4today a lot of products in the store aren't sold on the website. I asked her why she said "the owners don't allow vendors to sell their products on her website".
The owner is very nice and knowledgeable on natural hair care. I told her about LHCF and how she needs to become a vendor. She said she will check it out.

 

[greight]

I have the dryest 4b/4z hair I can think of... If it worked for me (and it did) it will work for you. See my fotki and youtube for my hair texture... goodluck.

Definitely do your research. But my hair is similar to yours. I'm a 4b some 4a ?, maybe (lol). It's hard to tell. I have fine hair, medium density. My hair is about 7 inches. and dry. I did get better curl definition after the mud wash but I'm still a 4b.

I'm 4b_ and I love it.

I've been scoping it out and it seems like a good buy! I think I'll buy the 8oz of the lemon version. I need something to get me through the winter!

 

[sikora]

There are a few things I notice I can do that I wasn't able to do before the detox.

I can now mid-week get in the shower and rinse my hair with just water and it comes out just like I washed it. I've done that twice this week. So I have been able to just put leave-in in my hair and style it. Before I would have to do the whole shampoo regimen which took me forever. So I would have to plan a day to do my hair.

Secondly, I've always washed my hair loose because although I could get my hair into 6 to 8 barrettes, when the water hit it (even without shampoo) my hair would expand so much that the barrettes would pop off. And when they came off I couldn't get them back on because it puffed up and shrunk up at the same time. Now I can put 4 barrettes on (Its still not long enough to braid or twist) and my hair does what other ytbers hair does. It gets weighted down by the water and actually stretches.

I am loving my hair right now.

I'm going to try the rinse as well and see what happens! I recently did a deep condition (on dry hair) with AO honeysuckle Rose and my hair felt really great after--it was perfectly moisturized. Another thing I notice from using this product is that I can actually feel my texture when I'm rinsing my hair. I'm actually aware of the curves/ kinks along the strands of my hair.

 

[faithVA]

I'm going to try the rinse as well and see what happens! I recently did a deep condition (on dry hair) with AO honeysuckle Rose and my hair felt really great after--it was perfectly moisturized. Another thing I notice from using this product is that I can actually feel my texture when I'm rinsing my hair. I'm actually aware of the curves/ kinks along the strands of my hair.

I do remember feeling the crispness of my curls when I did the detox. I haven't actually used the mudwash since I've detoxed. For the past 2 weeks I've been only rinsing with water or rinsing and throwing on a condiioner. I am looking forward to seeing how my hair comes out after my next mud wash. Would like to feel the texture you are talking about.

If I keep up this rate I will have the mud wash for a very long time.

 

[CrueltyFree]

Sage Naturalceuticals has an online store also. I've ordered from them before. They carry a good cross section of natural products, Oyin, Bee Mine, Komaza etc. Being from Canada this has been my main place to shop for a variety of natural products. I didn't know Sage carried the Terressentials mud wash as its not showing as one of their online brands. From my experience, this is a great store, great customer service and fast shipping. the owner is very accommodating so perhaps she would be open to offering an LHCF discount if the TE folks aren't prepared to do so. Here's the link http://www.sagenaturalceuticals.com/shop/index.php. if y'all want to check it out.

Some companies can't keep up with the demand of more than one online shop. At least that's in Qhemet's case.

 

[ericajoy]

Ericajoy,
are you texturized and using the product or are you natural. i thought the product was just for natural haired folks. Please advise and if you are texturized, how often do you do it? Thanks.

deborah11, yes, I'm texlaxed and it's fine in my hair. If you read their FAQs on the Terressentials website they address this...apparently they say somewhere in the instructions that it's not for chemically treated hair...but then the FAQ says that they only say this because many vendors don't take the time to instruct customers on proper use. So they don't recommend it for chemically treated hair b/c people might not detox with it properly (or something like that) and be disappointed. But they do in fact recommend it for relaxed hair, if you take the time to follow the instructions.

It all sounded a little precious to me -- if it cleans hair, it cleans hair, right? And I don't think hair stores up toxins that can be "detoxed" in three washes anyway, so their reasoning was lost on me on many fronts.

But ANYWAY, long answer, yes, I'm texlaxed and it works great in my hair.

ETA: Oh also, how often do I do it: I texlax every 12 weeks or so and wash 1-2 times a week.

 

[virtuenow]

@deborah11, yes, I'm texlaxed and it's fine in my hair. If you read their FAQs on the Terressentials website they address this...apparently they say somewhere in the instructions that it's not for chemically treated hair...but then the FAQ says that they only say this because many vendors don't take the time to instruct customers on proper use. So they don't recommend it for chemically treated hair b/c people might not detox with it properly (or something like that) and be disappointed. But they do in fact recommend it for relaxed hair, if you take the time to follow the instructions.

It all sounded a little precious to me -- if it cleans hair, it cleans hair, right? And I don't think hair stores up toxins that can be "detoxed" in three washes anyway, so their reasoning was lost on me on many fronts.

But ANYWAY, long answer, yes, I'm texlaxed and it works great in my hair.

ETA: Oh also, how often do I do it: I texlax every 12 weeks or so and wash 1-2 times a week.

So did you do the detox? If so, how did it go?

 

[hair4today]

Some companies can't keep up with the demand of more than one online shop. At least that's in Qhemet's case.

Yeah you're probably right, I was thinking it was more of a non-competition thing. Something along the lines of not wanting to compete for the online business with other vendors but wanting to broaden distribution at the local level, to have access to those who would never shop online. In any event, it's good to know Sage has the mud wash cause although she won't sell it online per the agreement, she'll do a phone order instead. Had to do this before with a product I wanted from another line that couldn't be sold online and she was super nice in working with me to ensure I got what I wanted.

 

[Tamster]

hair4today so she will do phone orders?? thats great!! whats the shipping on that?? I am going to call the one store in IL and see if they will do a phone order. The shipping should be fast and cheap (I hope) that way!! YES!

I read this whole thread and now I want. I may also get this for my brother who is growing out his hair and considering locs.

 

[hair4today]

hair4today so she will do phone orders?? thats great!! whats the shipping on that?? I am going to call the one store in IL and see if they will do a phone order. The shipping should be fast and cheap (I hope) that way!! YES!

I read this whole thread and now I want. I may also get this for my brother who is growing out his hair and considering locs.

tamz412 Sage will take phone orders for sure. Owner's name is Cindy and as I said very accommodating, you can reach her at 770 881 8610. As for shipping, I'm from Canada so it usually costs $27 flat rate box to ship to my location and it depends on how much stuff I buy. I like Sage cause they have such a good variety of products. I tend to buy a ton of haircare products at once which drives down the cost of shipping per item. I'm pretty sure shipping within the US is much less though.

 

[theNaturalWonders]

Had I known Sage had the wash I would've been there in a hot minute and saved on that shipping-thanks for the info!! Is that price for the 8 oz?? Doesnt matter- I will be there very soon.
So I did part 1 of detox last night and my hair did NOT like the lemon. But I will continue on. I saturated my hair with ACV, rinsed out, then applied the wash. My hair was fighting with it. It was a bit of challenge working it through my hair. I intended to leave it on for 1 hour but it was close to 2 when I rinsed out. My hair was very tangled and it took a long time to detangle. I had to apply some oil to my hair after in hopes by morning it would feel better. I just finished finger detangled and detangled with my comb and now I am ready for day 2. I will not use ACV this time, I will dilute the mud with some water, and leave it on for 1 hour and pray this gets better. So far I really like the lavender better. It seems to be more moisturizing. Will report back once I am done.

 

[hair4today]

Had I known Sage had the wash I would've been there in a hot minute and saved on that shipping-thanks for the info!! Is that price for the 8 oz?? Doesnt matter- I will be there very soon.
So I did part 1 of detox last night and my hair did NOT like the lemon. But I will continue on. I saturated my hair with ACV, rinsed out, then applied the wash. My hair was fighting with it. It was a bit of challenge working it through my hair. I intended to leave it on for 1 hour but it was close to 2 when I rinsed out. My hair was very tangled and it took a long time to detangle. I had to apply some oil to my hair after in hopes by morning it would feel better. I just finished finger detangled and detangled with my comb and now I am ready for day 2. I will not use ACV this time, I will dilute the mud with some water, and leave it on for 1 hour and pray this gets better. So far I really like the lavender better. It seems to be more moisturizing. Will report back once I am done.

Sorry to hear about the tangling, that's the opposite of what I've experienced, so yeah definitely eliminate the ACV and dilute the mud hopefully you 'll have a different outcome next wash day. Good luck with it.

 

[CrueltyFree]

Are you supposed to use ACV for the detox or no? I didn't see that on the website.

 

[sugarwater]

I'm curious. Does anyone know why it cost so much to ship? If there is a good reason, then I don't have a problem paying that much, but I feel like i'm getting played. I dont see why shipping cost as much as the product for an 8 oz bottle.

 

[faithVA]

theNaturalWonders[/USER];14153263]Had I known Sage had the wash I would've been there in a hot minute and saved on that shipping-thanks for the info!! Is that price for the 8 oz?? Doesnt matter- I will be there very soon.
So I did part 1 of detox last night and my hair did NOT like the lemon. But I will continue on. I saturated my hair with ACV, rinsed out, then applied the wash. My hair was fighting with it. It was a bit of challenge working it through my hair. I intended to leave it on for 1 hour but it was close to 2 when I rinsed out. My hair was very tangled and it took a long time to detangle. I had to apply some oil to my hair after in hopes by morning it would feel better. I just finished finger detangled and detangled with my comb and now I am ready for day 2. I will not use ACV this time, I will dilute the mud with some water, and leave it on for 1 hour and pray this gets better. So far I really like the lavender better. It seems to be more moisturizing. Will report back once I am done.

I would skip the ACV rinse. You just want the mud directly on your hair for the detox. And if you are only doing 1 extended wash versus the multiples definitely don't add additional products.

 

[CrueltyFree]

I'm curious. Does anyone know why it cost so much to ship? If there is a good reason, then I don't have a problem paying that much, but I feel like i'm getting played. I dont see why shipping cost as much as the product for an 8 oz bottle.

I agree with this. Last package I got was a small flat rate box and I know that those don't cost more than $5. I ordered an 8oz bottle, two sample sizes and a lip balm and it all fit in that small flat rate envelope

I think I paid $8.75 for shipping. I don't like it but sometimes I make that compromise for stuff when I love it. I'll just make sure I buy enough to last me so I don't have to make purchases that often.

Maybe you should ask the company why they charge so much for shipping. I may send a query about it myself. I know they charge by the amount of stuff you order, not by weight.

 

[faithVA]

I'm curious. Does anyone know why it cost so much to ship? If there is a good reason, then I don't have a problem paying that much, but I feel like i'm getting played. I dont see why shipping cost as much as the product for an 8 oz bottle.

I can't say for sure but they probably have something set up with UPS for a certain delivery time, based on a certain box size and they set their shipping based on that. I think some vendors choose lower cost and longer delivery time. I think this company has set it to faster delivery with higher cost. Just guessing.

 

[McQuay30]

MY MUD CAME TODAY!!!!! It is sitting on my hair as we speak or write, been on for about 45 minutes. I applied it like a relaxer, put a shower cap and a scarf on top to hold the heat in. Certain spots on my head at the beginning of the application would "Sting" just like having a facial done...oh welllll

 

[CrueltyFree]

I would skip the ACV rinse. You just want the mud directly on your hair for the detox. And if you are only doing 1 extended wash versus the multiples definitely don't add additional products.

I agree. You should isolate the two so that you know for sure that it's the mud vs the ACV, or vice versa. I know naptural85 does it but I really think that's just a bit extra, especially if you don't usually wash once a month like she does. Have you used ACV before?

 

[faithVA]

Are you supposed to use ACV for the detox or no? I didn't see that on the website.

It may have been in the speed it up section, if you wanted to speed up the detox process. It is not part of the regular process.

I think it may be better to try it with just the mud wash first and then try it with the ACV. People have had mixed results with ACV period.

 

[theNaturalWonders]

So I am done with detox day 2. The ACV was the culprit with the tangled mess I had last night. I detangled my hair throughly, twisted it in sections, spritzed my hair with water in each section, and applied the mud without diluting-i sighed with relief when it melted in my hair. It felt good. I left it on for 1 hour and rinsed out and my hair felt and looked moisturized. I retwisted my soaking wet hair with some shea butter mix and my hair is shiny, moisturized, and defined. It was so easy to comb my hair and there were no tangles. I know the detox will get better. I am going to do the full 7 day detox. On days 5-7 I am going to wash only 1 time. cocaT I made sure the PH of the ACV was between 4.5-5.5 before I applied it, and I have used ACV before with no issues. It worked really well with the lavender.
1 thing I learned with using both washes-make sure my hair is fully detangled

 

[McQuay30]

Results... It rinsed very good and felt detanlged as I rinsed. The "weird feeling" is the increase in the moisture level because my hair felt the same feeling after using the JBCO Shampoo but the difference is the detangled hair without washing in section, without detangling beforehand. Just an update... I like it...

 

[faithVA]

Results... It rinsed very good and felt detanlged as I rinsed. The "weird feeling" is the increase in the moisture level because my hair felt the same feeling after using the JBCO Shampoo but the difference is the detangled hair without washing in section, without detangling beforehand. Just an update... I like it...

I like this aspect as well. Just the reduction in detangling alone has reduced my prep time.

 

[song_of_serenity]

For the mixies. A good video on Bentonite clay with water vs Bentonite clay mixed with aloe vera juice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSz-_I8lEA

 

[LadyMacgyver]

OK I finished my detox and I found that using shea moisture just wasn't enough moisture for me when I twist my hair.. So I retwisted my hair last night and I used Qhemet Alma & Burdock root and flaxseed gel that I whipped up and I must say this is the 1st time since being natural that my hair has stayed moisturized all day.. I took my twist out out but didn't want to wear my hair out today because I picked grapes today and wasn't sure how much I would sweat my hair out..

Sorry my edges aren't as slicked back as they were this morning.. I need a stronger gel for my edges..