Mud Hair Wash=NO DC?

[faithVA]

i second this...the mud has really transformed my hair. i cant believe i was a skeptic before!! this past sat was my henna day and my results are amazing. henna always made my hair feel just ok but this time i could feel how my strands were strong and had thicken up. my hair even looked longer probably because the henna eliminated all frizz. i did a braid out for sunday and no lie ladies i am on 3 day hair with crazy definition. this NEVER happens to me. the color is now oxidizing to a pretty auburn. henna would do nothing to my hair color wise. i will buy the travel size cool mint to see if i like it but i am sticking with lavender and lemon.

I don't know if it is because of the mudwash or not but my henna took very well this time. I have a lot of gray up front. So the last time I applied the red henna and let it sit for an hour and then the med. brown henna for 2 hours. And it came out ok. It held pretty good but not great. Usually my edges are suspect. This time I mixed the two and applied for 2 hours and I got really solid color all over even on those hard to color edges.

The mudwash probably won't wash it out as quickly either.

 

[hair4today]

Trying to answer a question about greasy hair really has me appreciating how far my hair has come in the past month and how little product I have to apply to my hair now.

After my wash regimen and henna yesterday I applied a leave in, a butter to seal and a gel to hold my twists. And today no chasing moisture down. My hair is moisturized and I can run my hand down my twists and not a speck of stickness of greasiness.

Two months ago I would have applied a lot more on wash day and my twists and scalp would be dry right now and I would be rushing home to remoisturize. I am feeling very happy with my hair and my regimen right now.

Unfortunately my greys are coming in fast and furious and I need to do a henna treatment soon. I haven't tried henna with the mud wash so far and was wondering how best to appraoch. To be honest I'm terrified of going back to dry hair so have been putting it off. Since you had such a successful henna/mud wash experience @faithVA, can you share the steps and henna formulation you used? TIA.

ETA -- not sure what the Morocco Method is for henna but if it includes extra conditioning then that's for me.

 

[youwillrise]

looks like my mud wash came. i wont be home til 10pmish. im excited.

 

[sugarwater]

my results

this is only sixty percent dry

before using Giovanni

 

[LadyMacgyver]

sugarwater

Very Pretty

 

[faithVA]

hair4today[/USER];14223881]Unfortunately my greys are coming in fast and furious and I need to do a henna treatment soon. I haven't tried henna with the mud wash so far and was wondering how best to appraoch. To be honest I'm terrified of going back to dry hair so have been putting it off. Since you had such a successful henna/mud wash experience @faithVA, can you share the steps and henna formulation you used? TIA.

ETA -- not sure what the Morocco Method is for henna but if it includes extra conditioning then that's for me.

What I was alluding to in the previous thread is that I don't buy henna and then do the whole mixing with this and that. I buy henna from MorroccoMethod and its blended so it is conditioning. Please don't ask me with what I don't know.

I went this route because the first time I used henna, it came out so hard and straight I ended up shaving my hair off. So I don't feel like being bothered trying to figure out the henna thing. It comes in a jar and I mix it with diluted tea and thats the end of that.

It probably is more expensive than other hennas. I don't have a clue.

But I know there is a henna thread where they tell you which brands to buy and what to mix. etc.

 

[faithVA]

my results

Was this a certain day of detox? or a mud wash? Does it look different to you? It is pretty.

 

[theNaturalWonders]

hair4today i used the raj henna that curlynikki just purchased and used the same mixing ingredients that she used and added some olive oil when i was ready to apply. My henna mixes before were way too complicated which is probably why i got less than stellar results. I am really coming to a point where i appreciate simplicity.

 

[hair4today]

hair4today i used the raj henna that curlynikki just purchased and used the same mixing ingredients that she used and added some olive oil when i was ready to apply. My henna mixes before were way too complicated which is probably why i got less than stellar results. I am really coming to a point where i appreciate simplicity.

Thanks theNaturalWonders for this tip. I've henna before but its drying and takes time for my hair to get It's moisture back. I do have a few more henna questions...what order in the process did you use the mud wash...did you apply before or after henna how long did you leave the henna in your hair, if I recall Curly Nikki does overnight applications, also did you pre-poo? TIA

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

Was this a certain day of detox? or a mud wash? Does it look different to you? It is pretty.

@faithVA I've just spent about 2 hours (seriously) on the phone with Diana, one of the creators of Terressentials
no discounts seem to be on the horizon, she explained how their production costs basically won't allow it at this time, and that their prices haven't increased in more than 8 years despite increases in many of their materials but just letting you know in case you haven't heard back from any emails....

 

[virtuenow]

sugarwater are your results different from your regular wash? Is that how your hair normally turns out? Do you have before pics. Thanks for the pics you shared

 

[LadyMacgyver]

I been eyeing their other products..They have a body oil I think that you can use for the hair and a body cream that is also good for the hair..

 

[sugarwater]

Was this a certain day of detox? or a mud wash? Does it look different to you? It is pretty.

faithVA
this was day 2, after the 2nd wash that was over night. I don't think I needed it though. the 1st was enough.

I started using all natural products last month.
Water & Aloe
Bee Mine Ayurvedic poo bar
Bee Mine Moisturizing deep condish etc

virtuenow
my old regular Giovanni wash

my Ayurvedic poo bar wash

Mud Hair Wash makes my hair more flat and doesn't strip my hair as much. And a bit more definition

 

[virtuenow]

sugarwater, thanks so much, which pictures are the mud wash

 

[sugarwater]

virtuenow
the mud wash is the last page except the last picture

 

[faithVA]

@faithVA I've just spent about 2 hours (seriously) on the phone with Diana, one of the creators of Terressentials and I will honestly say her wealth of information about the INGREDIENTS organic, certified organic, and ridiculous claims of natural products was simply amazing. Forget my lil' chemistry degrees, I've never ever felt so informed in such a short period of time basically.

no discounts seem to be on the horizon, she explained how their production costs basically won't allow it at this time, and that their prices haven't increased in more than 8 years despite increases in many of their materials

but just letting you know in case you haven't heard back from any emails.... but she seems to be one of the most passionate people I've ever spoken with in terms of her craft

she even laughed a bit about pH & the science of hair (which she feels many more elements are more important such as your health, and the ingredients you put into & on our body).... her background is amazing and I truly hope she writes books about the being inside a deceptive cosmetic industry (she mentioned she may if not for the fear of getting her brake lines SNAPPED or a cute little bomb/pack inconspicuously left outside of their offices)
anywho, she giggled a bit at kimtube's vids, and knows Naptural85 from visiting her farm

Wow thanks tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT. I read through the site and could tell it was some good information. It was enough to make me back up and reconsider what I was using. I had no intention of going organic. But between the reading and the results of the detox, I was like let me stop playing with stuff. No wonder my hair is thinning.

Organic people do tend to be quite passionate.

Please share any insights you want to share in a pm if you feel like it.

I wasn't really expecting a discount. I was expecting a reply. Just good business. But ohwell

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

Wow thanks @tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT. I read through the site and could tell it was some good information. It was enough to make me back up and reconsider what I was using. I had no intention of going organic. But between the reading and the results of the detox, I was like let me stop playing with stuff. No wonder my hair is thinning.

Organic people do tend to be quite passionate.

Please share any insights you want to share in a pm if you feel like it.

I wasn't really expecting a discount. I was expecting a reply. Just good business. But ohwell

i know! lol...

 

[faithVA]

tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT[/USER];14227843]i know! lol... i wasn't really a poster in your thread, but I remember you mentioning that you were trying to get the members a discount so I decided to ask her about it
i asked, well why don't you do what I've done in the past and hire someone to respond to emails for you, like a college student or the like-- she simply said NOPE!

she mentioned that she receives tons of emails daily, and after being in this business for nearly 20 years, she's been ripped off alot (shrugs) by companies and individuals in respect to her recipes and products, etc. articles and information so SHE BASICALLY DECIDED TO STOP RESPONDING TO EMAILS <-- girl don't ask me about that one

I'm not mad at her. I've had a few businesses and after a while there are a lot of things you just say the heck with. I remember having days where I just wouldn't answer the phone. {shiver} brings back memories.

I can imagine her saying, if you like it buy. If not Whatever!

 

[youwillrise]

so, i'm going to start the detox. i think, since it's late and i have to get up early tomorrow, i'm going to try the whole "leaving it on and rinsing it tomorrow" thing to get the detox going. hopefully it works out okay.

 

[nakialovesshoes]

I did a second wash on Saturday so I will do the third wash day. My hair feels like straw and there has been some breakage. My hair is in a loose bun so that there is no agitation to the hair. I'll keep up with the detox and see how things go but if after the 5th wash there is no improvement I will not continue. My hair may not be strong enough to withstand the process.

JC JaneMine still isn't soft like everyone else is reporting. I'm wondering do I just have a crazy amount of build up because of the bad ingredients in the products that I used to use. My hair is great w/the mud on & when I 1st rinse. But once it dries, it's stiff and doesn't feel soft @ all.

How are you using it? Are you doing the 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1 or are you doing 1 wash and leaving it on an extended period of time?

Are you diluting it 50/50 with water?

What are you putting on after you wash?

faithVASo far I've done 3,3,2,2,2 & since I haven't gotten the "softness" results, I will probably continue w/2 per day to finish. Also, I've been putting a heat cap on for at least an hour before rinsing.

I use the 50/50 ratio & if I'm going out I will use the flax seed to hold my curl definitions. If not, I don't put anything on my hair. I have my heat cap on & probably won't rinse tonight. I'm too sleepy.

Wow thanks @tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT. I read through the site and could tell it was some good information. It was enough to make me back up and reconsider what I was using. I had no intention of going organic. But between the reading and the results of the detox, I was like let me stop playing with stuff. No wonder my hair is thinning.

Organic people do tend to be quite passionate.

Please share any insights you want to share in a pm if you feel like it.

I wasn't really expecting a discount. I was expecting a reply. Just good business. But ohwell

tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT Please cc me on the PM. I was shocked to see the comment about pH and Kimmaytube. Naptural85 is my fave natural YTer. I do, however, agree with the importance of diet as well. Matter of fact, this is OT, but anyone care to join me in a juice fast/feast.

 

[ecadnacmc]

^^ I think you are leaving the product on too long. If you are doing full detox you put it on & rinse off. Short detox they recommend leaving it on longer. At least that was my understanding. Might explain the dryness.

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[nakialovesshoes]

^^ I think you are leaving the product on too long. If you are doing full detox you put it on & rinse off. Short detox they recommend leaving it on longer. At least that was my understanding. Might explain the dryness.

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ecadnacmc I think I may have misunderstood. I thought the idea was the longer you leave it on, the better the results. What's the difference between a full and a short detox? Didn't realize there was a "short" detox. I'm already on day 6. Any ideas on how I can turn it around?

 

[LadyMacgyver]

tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT Please cc me on the PM. I was shocked to see the comment about pH and Kimmaytube. Naptural85 is my fave natural YTer. I do, however, agree with the importance of diet as well. Matter of fact, this is OT, but anyone care to join me in a juice fast/feast.[/QUOTE]

CC me in to if you don't mind.. Thanks

 

[theNaturalWonders]

Thanks @theNaturalWonders for this tip. I've henna before but its drying and takes time for my hair to get It's moisture back. I do have a few more henna questions...what order in the process did you use the mud wash...did you apply before or after henna how long did you leave the henna in your hair, if I recall Curly Nikki does overnight applications, also did you pre-poo? TIA

i prepared my henna mixture the night before so that the color can be released over a 12 hour period. i used 4 green tea bags and 2 red zinger tea bags that had cooled down somewhat but was still a little warm and stirred it in. then i covered it up and placed it in an area where it wasn't too cool. i made sure i completely detangled my hair the night before. i did prepoo with an oil mixture i made and placed my hair in 6-10 large twists. next day i used acv on my scalp to get rid of any buildup, rinsed, then used the mud wash as a shampoo. took the henna added some honey and olive oil to it and applied it to each section like a relaxer. covered it up with several plastic bags and my head wrap and kept it in for 6 hours. rinsed throughly. shampooed with giovanni 50:50. rinsed again and then applied my darcy's botanicals pumpkin conditioner with olive oil and castor oil. stayed under dryer for 1 hour and then just left it in for another 2 hours and then washed out and braided my hair up with aloe vera gel and some KCKT and sealed my ends with my shea butter mix and was good to go---talk about time consuming!!! but i haven't experienced any dryness so i guess i did ok

ETA
to add pic of my 4 day old braid out after detox and henna

 

[theNaturalWonders]

tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT Please cc me on the PM. I was shocked to see the comment about pH and Kimmaytube. Naptural85 is my fave natural YTer. I do, however, agree with the importance of diet as well. Matter of fact, this is OT, but anyone care to join me in a juice fast/feast.

me too!!

 

[theNaturalWonders]

@ecadnacmc I think I may have misunderstood. I thought the idea was the longer you leave it on, the better the results. What's the difference between a full and a short detox? Didn't realize there was a "short" detox. I'm already on day 6. Any ideas on how I can turn it around?

maybe you should stop the detox and use as many natural products you can just to see if you can tell a difference

 

[ajoke]

tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT, CC me in to if you don't mind.. Thanks

 

[faithVA]

nakialovesshoes;14228471]

Is there any reason why you aren't putting anything on your hair?

Flax seed may not be enough to get you through the day.

I don't think anyone who uses the mud wash or detoxed is advocating trying to go without any product to hold the moisture in. Its a good product but like I said its not a miracle product. If your hair is soft and moisturized when you finish washing, seal the moisture in.

 

[faithVA]

@ecadnacmc I think I may have misunderstood. I thought the idea was the longer you leave it on, the better the results. What's the difference between a full and a short detox? Didn't realize there was a "short" detox. I'm already on day 6. Any ideas on how I can turn it around?

I think they recommend leaving it on 30 minutes to an hour. That long process, overnight stuff is a LHCH thing You know how we like to do things to the max.

The full detox was 7 days: the 3,3,2,2,1,1,1. You wash back to back.

Those that wanted to accelerate the process/the short detox was leaving in on for an extended period of time but still that was an hour.

I've never left mine on for more than 30 minutes because I was doing something.

To turn it around, just do your final wash tonight. Wash it and rinse it out. And put a leave-in or moisturizer on your hair. And if you need a moisturizer on your hair tomorrow do it again until your hair stabilizes.

 

[faithVA]

i prepared my henna mixture the night before so that the color can be released over a 12 hour period. i used 4 green tea bags and 2 red zinger tea bags that had cooled down somewhat but was still a little warm and stirred it in. then i covered it up and placed it in an area where it wasn't too cool. i made sure i completely detangled my hair the night before. i did prepoo with an oil mixture i made and placed my hair in 6-10 large twists. next day i used acv on my scalp to get rid of any buildup, rinsed, then used the mud wash as a shampoo. took the henna added some honey and olive oil to it and applied it to each section like a relaxer. covered it up with several plastic bags and my head wrap and kept it in for 6 hours. rinsed throughly. shampooed with giovanni 50:50. rinsed again and then applied my darcy's botanicals pumpkin conditioner with olive oil and castor oil. stayed under dryer for 1 hour and then just left it in for another 2 hours and then washed out and braided my hair up with aloe vera gel and some KCKT and sealed my ends with my shea butter mix and was good to go---talk about time consuming!!! but i haven't experienced any dryness so i guess i did ok

ETA
to add pic of my 4 day old braid out after detox and henna

Wow, that is a lot. Your braid out looks nice.