The Tyra Show Today

[araceli2418]

Wow! I am so glad I was not raised with the good hair vs. bad hair thing. I wish we could all wake up tomorrow and have it erased from our psyche but I guess that's fantasy.

I felt so sorry for that 3 year old whose mother perms her hair. That poor girl was crying and it made me tear up to watch it. The other little girl with the Hannah Montana wig also touched my heart b/c she thinks she has bad hair and wants her hair like Hannah Montana. What are people doing to their kids?

But even the women kind of broke my heart b/c I felt their was a lot of ignorance going on. When the one girl said something to the effect of doing relaxers b/c she wants the "white girl flow" I was like

Admittedly, I used to be one of those people that thought there was no way I could manage my natural hair but a little education will change a person.

And the girl who decided to give natural a try, I thought her hair was cute.

 

[that_1_grrrl]

I'm mad because Martha is on, and they haven't aired it here yet. But I saw the preview with the little girl screaming and crying while getting her hair permed. I don't understand why people do that to children.

 

[araceli2418]

Ugh! Can't stand Martha but I digress.

They must have edited it some more b/c there wasn't the part where one of the relaxed ladies said naturals look like chimpanzees or remind her of chimpanzess or some crazy ish like that.

 

[glamazon386]

I'm watching it now and so far it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Let's see what else happens.

 

[Barbara]

I'll have to watch and record this episode.

 

[Moniquenuss]

OMG! These poor little girls! Their parents should be ashamed for making them feel as if they are not good enough! The three year old, her mother combed the relaxer allllllll the way through! She is gonna be bald by the time she is four! I feel bad for these children because I got a relaxer at 4! back then my hair was maybe apl surprisingly my hair never fell out until I began doing it myself when I was maybe 12. By then my hair was maybe EL but I still had enough for a little nub! My mother cut it all off an I wore braids for a year it all grew back but that was because my mother took the time to take care of it! Im not too sure she knew what she was doing but she did wash it and braid it weekly when I was younger. It was never a good/bad hair talk in my house it more of your hair is damaged and you need to start fresh! Hopefully someone will be able to talk some sense into these parents and they will teach their children to be proud of what they have!

Oh and as for the chick talking about she "I got that white girl swing!" She needs to be slapped! :hardslap::hardslap: Who says things like that! grant it her hair did appear healthy so im not knocking her but she should say that "Nappy" hair is bad she should say thatit just doesnt appeal to her! because with out that fresh relaxer you got that kinky stuff too!

Well tata for now ladies! Hope I didnt spoil it for anyone

 

[MochaEyeCandy]

I'm watching my it right now, and the comments coming from those kids are sad. A 5 year old talking about nappy hair equals low class??? My daughter came home on some "mommy I want beautiful straight hair like Becky's" ish, and you know what I did? I grew my relaxer out, and cut at the line of demarcation. If I'm gonna teach my daughter to have pride in her natural appearance, and that beauty is not synonyms with long or straight hair, I'm gonna do it by example.

 

[socurlyqt]

this is REALLY pissing me off. like i cant do it.

 

[knt1229]

It hasn't aired here yet. So I haven't seen it. BUT based on what you all have said it sounds like Tyra is going for the most extreme and ignorant perspectives. I have never heard another black woman talk about "white girl swing". Shows like this make it seem as though blacks have no pride and that all of us are ashamed of our natural hair, skin color, bodies, and race.

I am so glad I was not raised like this or around this kind of ignorance.

 

[keepithealthy]

I'm watching my it right now, and the comments coming from those kids are sad. A 5 year old talking about nappy hair equals low class??? My daughter came home on some "mommy I want beautiful straight hair like Becky's" ish, and you know what I did? I grew my relaxer out, and cut at the line of demarcation. If I'm gonna teach my daughter to have pride in her natural appearance, and that beauty is not synonyms with long or straight hair, I'm gonna do it by example.

You know my niece said something similar to me the other day. There are only maybe 2 other black kids in her class. They one black boy in the class told her, her hair was ugly because it didn't swing like the "other" girls in her class. I started transitioning to natural for myself but I'm gonna take the opportunity to teach my neice that her hair is beautiful and she is too!

 

[socurlyqt]

who the hell is putting weave in 8yr old hair!! really!???! get this ish together. i cant go.

 

[discodumpling]

Thx for the update/warning...I know I shouldn't watch this nonsense...just bringing my pressure up.

 

[Chameleonchick]

I don't really watch tyra so I didn't know what time it was supposed to come on. Does it come on at a later time today? I am getting my car serviced.

 

[Hotmommak]

It' s not on here yet either, but it pretty much seems like it's what everyone expected.

 

[naturalglory041490]

It' s not on here yet either, but it pretty much seems like it's what everyone expected.

no, it's much worse

 

[glamazon386]

It hasn't aired here yet. So I haven't seen it. BUT based on what you all have said it sounds like Tyra is going for the most extreme and ignorant perspectives. I have never heard another black woman talk about "white girl swing". Shows like this make it seem as though blacks have no pride and that all of us are ashamed of our natural hair, skin color, bodies, and race.

I am so glad I was not raised like this or around this kind of ignorance.

I've heard it before. We call it the white girl flip or swang. I've even seen it in posts on this board. I don't think these are the most ignorant or extreme perspectives because they are synonymous with black moms/children I know but you're right it's not the be all and end all.

Most of us relax our hair because we think it's bad or nappy, because it's hard to comb and unmanagable, because it's dry and short and damaged and doesn't grow, etc. I could go on down the line. This is nothing new to all of us. However, I think given the climate of this board and the fact that this is a board dedicated to hair care and growing healthy hair we're going to look at these people like WTF?!?!?! because we've been enlightened. We know better. Some of us shared those same thoughts and ideas these women did before coming here. That's just like the whole thing with militant naturals ragging on "permies". It makes me want to go WTF?!?! Didn't you use to perm your hair? Now you want to be all high and mighty?!?!

I think the biggest issue is education. Many of us do not know how to take care of of hair natural or relaxed. It is something that has to be learned. And until you learn what to do, you're going to do what you know even if it is bad because that's what you were taught. Think about some people whose hair has stayed the same length their whole life? Obviously they aren't doing something right. Hair definitely grows. You wouldn't need a touch up if it didn't.

 

[Keen]

Did any of those women had issue with their skin tone too? So sad they are passing down this ignorance to their children.

 

[Southernbella.]

It hasn't aired here yet. So I haven't seen it. BUT based on what you all have said it sounds like Tyra is going for the most extreme and ignorant perspectives. I have never heard another black woman talk about "white girl swing". Shows like this make it seem as though blacks have no pride and that all of us are ashamed of our natural hair, skin color, bodies, and race.

I am so glad I was not raised like this or around this kind of ignorance.

Really?! I see it all the time on this board.

It comes on here at 1. I wasn't going to watch it, but it sounds like it wasn't as bad as her usual shows.

 

[glamazon386]

Alright it finally went off. They didn't show that part about the chimpanzees they must have edited that out. The children bothered me the most. But I would have to say that this show was just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many other things and factors that go into this discussion and there was no way that she could have covered everything in an hour. I think some people just expect too much. This wasn't supposed to be a dissertation on black hair, it was an hour long talk show meant to be daytime entertainment with a smidge of educational programming (mainly for her non black audience) thrown in there.

I wasn't offended by Tyra. She didn't give any nono advice in her tips and explanations which is more than what I could say for most of the black women I know in real life. I wasn't offended by the show persay but some of those parents needed to be slapped.

Why would you relax a 3 year olds hair and then wash it out over her eyes? And then she combed it all the way through. But sadly I've sat in a shop waiting for my hair to get done and I've seen stylists do this. I had someone do this to my hair when I was younger and didn't know better. Led to my fine hair being jacked up more than once.

The white mom needed to be slapped too. That child was too young to have weave or a relaxer in her hair. The mother just didn't know what to do with it. I guess she hadn't heard of the JFM Texture Softener huh? But can we really fault the white mom for not knowing what to do with the mixed child's hair when most of us black women don't even know how to care for and comb our own natural hair? Be realistic. But people I know use kiddie perms all the time and I've seen children with weave and phony ponies before.

I felt bad for the little girl who got teased. The mixed one was just repeating the hate she heard her mother spewing. Wouldn't be the first time I heard that though. The other little girl with the plaits bothered me too. It seemed like her mother was trying to do the right thing by her but she was still being affected by outside influences - kids at school, tv, etc. Poor thing.

 

[glamazon386]

Did any of those women had issue with their skin tone too? So sad they are passing down this ignorance to their children.

I think so even though it wasn't stated. I got that from the first girl that made the swang comment when she said she had nice hair. It's like so what I'm dark skinned but I have long hair (by most black people's standards) or I have nice hair. You catch hell when you're dark and don't let you be bald or nappy headed. Oh yeah and don't be fat too. Unless you're really really pretty.

 

[JollyGal]

Oh I hope someone puts it up on youtube. I really want to watch it.

 

[pookaloo83]

It doesn't show here until 5. Has it come on already?

 

[knt1229]

I've heard it before. We call it the white girl flip or swang. I've even seen it in posts on this board. I don't think these are the most ignorant or extreme perspectives because they are synonymous with black moms/children I know but you're right it's not the be all and end all.

Most of us relax our hair because we think it's bad or nappy, because it's hard to comb and unmanagable, because it's dry and short and damaged and doesn't grow, etc. I could go on down the line. This is nothing new to all of us. However, I think given the climate of this board and the fact that this is a board dedicated to hair care and growing healthy hair we're going to look at these people like WTF?!?!?! because we've been enlightened. We know better. Some of us shared those same thoughts and ideas these women did before coming here. That's just like the whole thing with militant naturals ragging on "permies". It makes me want to go WTF?!?! Didn't you use to perm your hair? Now you want to be all high and mighty?!?!

I think the biggest issue is education. Many of us do not know how to take care of of hair natural or relaxed. It is something that has to be learned. And until you learn what to do, you're going to do what you know even if it is bad because that's what you were taught. Think about some people whose hair has stayed the same length their whole life? Obviously they aren't doing something right. Hair definitely grows. You wouldn't need a touch up if it didn't.

Yea I hear ya. But my views and opinions of this show aren't necessarily influenced by this board. I wasn't raised with the good hair or bad hair thing. My hair has always been full and I haven't had a hard time growing it or taking care of it. Some of the things I read here make me say WTF.

Personally, I haven't heard anybody use the phrase "white girl swing or white girl flow". When I used to relax my hair it wasn't because I wanted to be white or have swing. Actually, having a relaxer doesn't guarantee swing for me. I have to do a little more than relax my hair for it to swing or flow like a white girl such as wrapping it or blow drying without any product or a very light moisturizer.

I guess the difference for me was that I had a mother who had very thin short hair and she was so happy when I was born with a head full of thick hair. She took care of my hair and made sure it was healthy, thick, and long. She liked it which made me like it. So I guess it all comes from the home.

 

[CheLala13]

Ok, I know we shouldn't think that being mixed equals good hair. But I find it funny that the mixed black and white girl has a relaxer AND weave. Wow. I'm floored. These people are ridiculous. "At 2 years old it started getting nappy."

Sit down.

 

[knt1229]

Really?! I see it all the time on this board.

It comes on here at 1. I wasn't going to watch it, but it sounds like it wasn't as bad as her usual shows.

I just joined this board. I don't read every thread and I don't read every post in each thread. Basically, if I am not feeling the subject matter I move on. So lucky for me I haven't read it here or heard it in real life either.

 

[glamazon386]

Yea I hear ya. But my views and opinions of this show aren't necessarily influenced by this board. I wasn't raised with the good hair or bad hair thing. My hair has always been full and I haven't had a hard time growing it or taking care of it. Some of the things I read here make me say WTF.

Personally, I haven't heard anybody use the phrase "white girl swing or white girl flow". When I used to relax my hair it wasn't because I wanted to be white or have swing. Actually, having a relaxer doesn't guarantee swing for me. I have to do a little more than relax my hair for it to swing or flow like a white girl such as wrapping it or blow drying without any product or a very light moisturizer.

I guess the difference for me was that I had a mother who had very thin short hair and she was so happy when I was born with a head full of thick hair. She took care of my hair and made sure it was healthy, thick, and long. She liked it which made me like it. So I guess it all comes from the home.

Then you my dear are in the minority. You were lucky to have a mom who instilled those things in you. It's a shame that more children aren't taught to love their natural hair (I know I wasn't) and aren't introduced to that good hair bad hair mentality. I didn't get it as bad as some other people - I don't remember my mother ever complaining about my hair or telling me that it was bad or nappy but I did get my hair relaxed at maybe 5 or 6. But my hair was always done (usually by a stylist) and in cute age appropriate styles. It grew and it was healthy (even though it is fine/thin by nature). My mom took good care of it. A lot of these moms now have no clue what to do because they didn't have that knowledge passed down. You know how most people say their hair was healthy until they started doing it themselves (usually as a teenager)? You don't know what you're doing or do whatever everybody else is doing to get the cutest/hottest style of the moment that usually involved something damaging. Some people stick with those same bad practices and then their hair goes down the tubes for eternity.

But you know what, if you think about it, if we all were raised to believe all hair was good hair and to take pride in our natural hair the whole process of going natural wouldn't be such a big deal and I highly doubt places like NP would exist. We wouldn't need them. But when we have a history like the one have in this country where our hair was considered nappy, dirty, unkempt, and that you should be ashamed to be seen with it in it's natural state out in public, that it should be covered up at all times when not straight, etc. can you really blame people for their attitudes and thoughts? This stuff gets burned into your brain and internalized when you are a child. What it all boils down to is that we ALL need to be reeducated.

 

[glamazon386]

Ok, I know we shouldn't think that being mixed equals good hair. But I find it funny that the mixed black and white girl has a relaxer AND weave. Wow. I'm floored. These people are ridiculous. "At 2 years old it started getting nappy."

Sit down.

Her hair must be real nappy huh? Did you catch the mother when she said "she has good hair but..."?

 

[BeautifulFlower]

So far Tyra is doing a good job.

OMG! That women overprocess that 3yo girls hair. She was already relaxed and she put in all the way through.

 

[Urban]

ohhhh I don't think I could watch this. I'n tearing up already over what I've read about the 3 year old erplexed

 

[that_1_grrrl]

I missed the first half of it. I can not believe that White woman. Putting weave and a relaxer in her 8 year old daughter's hair, even though her daughter doesn't like it.

And I'm sorry Totiana, your hair is not that great.