The Tyra Show Today

[naturalmanenyc]

I only caught a few minutes of the show.....and Kimberly from "My Black is beautiful" has gorgeous hair!!!

I cannot believe that the white mom put weave in her 8 year old's hair....to make mom feel better.

 

[lonelysky]

My question for the white mother (i didn't watch, so maybe the question was answered): Why hook up with someone of a different race, and make a child that you can't/don't care for properly in every way?

That is a pet peeve of mine. I'm fine with interracial dating/marriage/baby making (I'm married to a white man). However I feel like you should take extra care to learn how to care for your child's hair. If I had a child with a hair texture that differs from mine and reflects his non-black lineage, you can bet that I would be figuring out how to properly do his hair.

 

[LongCurlz]

I have only been watching for 15 minutes....I dont think I wanna watch anymore...too damn ignorant, this is just gonna make me angry.Tyra makes it seem that all black people hate themselves and wanna be white, all the shows she has ever had about black women have all been negitive.

 

[discodumpling]

So I stomached the whole show...with my ignorant DH with the stereotypically "good hair" & my relaxed friend who wants to go natural but has some of the hangups these women have! Needless to say we were arguing during the commercials LOL!

It seems like Tyra trotted out the most ignorant so i'm just gonna say when you know better you do better. These women lacked (hair) education.

 

[LynnieB]

If any of you ladies runs into a link for this episode, let a sista know 'bout it, k?

Had to take my mom in for cataract surgery and there was no way I could see it (no dvr thingy).

TIA

 

[cutenss]

OK...
So the white mom with the biracial daughter. She justed wanted a brown man. A baby came of it. Since that child didn't get the "straighter" locks that some biracials get, she resorted to weave. BUT the brown mom who was ashamed of even introducing her daughter, because she was a natural. She is a HAG! Period. Her relaxed hair wasn't anything to write home about. I thought the daughter was pretty before I even heard the mom speak. Someone needs to contact the village, we found their IDIOT!

 

[msa]

I haven't read the thread yet...

This lady is really putting a weave and relaxer in her 8 year old's hair? For real for real?


at the people in this thread who somehow ignored the fact that every ateyaa thread has been about the amazing "swang" she gets...folks see only what they want to see...those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

 

[soulie]

I have it on Tivo; I'm going to download it to my laptop and see if I can post it on YT... I'll let you all know.

 

[Mystic]

For real for real.........., no joke.

I haven't read the thread yet...

This lady is really putting a weave and relaxer in her 8 year old's hair? For real for real?

 

[mstar]

OK...
So the white mom with the biracial daughter. She justed wanted a brown man. A baby came of it. Since that child didn't get the "straighter" locks that some biracials get, she resorted to weave. BUT the brown mom who was ashamed of even introducing her daughter, because she was a natural. She is a HAG! Period. Her relaxed hair wasn't anything to write home about. I thought the daughter was pretty before I even heard the mom speak. Someone needs to contact the village, we found their IDIOT!

Yeah, for me those two were the saddest: the white woman with the interracial 8-year-old, and the black woman who wouldn't accept her grown daughter's natural hair.

All of the other mother-daughter pairs had issues, and most of them were uneducated/ignorant, but at least they were honest about it. The two moms I mentioned above were seriously in denial, and their casual cruelty was heartbreaking to me.

ETA: And the black mom's relaxed hair looked awful! It was dirty, greasy, stringy, and had no bounce or shine. So sad that she seems totally unaware that her daughter's natural hair was 1000 times more beautiful than her relaxed hair!

 

[Almaz]

Yes the President of Verifen goes to the same Synagouge my family in New York goes too. It is the same company in NY and IL that does private label cosmetics and hair care products. The majority of the hair care products out there are from the same manufacturer or a subdivision thereof. Except the HUGE companies like Proctor and Gamble and Johnson Baby Products.

Johnson Products I am not sure still has their own factory. But since no one is buying to BLOW out kit anymore??? Remember those for people older than 35???

But most of them are made in the same factory.

My stylist said the following: "As far as hair products for African Americans are concerned, all they do is create a "white product" and add a few more ingredients to make it comparable to African American hair."

Years ago, the president at Verifen Complex told me the following: "We set aside an existing product and added more oil to it." Now, I would like to know what is the "original existing product." He also told me the name of the company that manufactures it. I've not been able to find it yet. I think he was just throwing me off . . . because no one will tell their secrets, because they know they will lose money. I just want to save some money by throwing in my own oil :superbanana: -- if that's the case, but he did tell me that they were going to add more herbs and vitamins.

 

[Honey01]

She pointed to the woman & said, "Look at the picture. These are those products for white people. This isn't for black people's hair." I tried to explain to her that there's no such thing as white people products & black people products, but, of course, she wouldn't listen.


So you don't believe some products are not only marketed but also formulated to meet the specific needs of certain hair types and groups?

I believe there are.



Also, someone mentioned the fact that the women here on LHCF are probably more saavy and educated about practices that contribute to healthy hair. I wholeheartedly agree with this perspective.

I was not raised in my immediate family with the good hair/bad hair mindset. However, I was acutely aware from outside incfluences including classmates and television. My Mother often said "any hair is good hair". However, I also had a press and curl as a child and eventually a relaxer. My mother never verbally told me I had bad or nappy hair, but to her these techniques probably meant to her "manageability".

I think the addage "when you know better, you do better" is applicable to many parents. Heck, I believe that applies to many of as members on a site dedicated to achieving long and and healthy hair (or some combination).

I for one have made the vow that if I have a daughter, she will be natural until an age I determine she can make this decision on her own. I imagine this will be sometime after she is high school. Of course, I would hope that I have sufficiently educated her to healthy habits no matter decision.

Forgive me if I did not quote properly. I am not sure how to quote specific text without quoting the whole response.

 

[tiffers]

Is anyone else annoyed that Tyra didn't have any 4b's on the show? It would have been so wonderful to see women with long, healthy "nappy" hair to show folks that it CAN be done!

She could have done so much more with this show, could have made it so much more helpful and educational.

I'm just too through with Tyra

 

[Almaz]

Okay I just cannot believe that with all the resources out here like the LOVELY LHCF that women are still jacking up their babies head. Some people will Sell Punanny to keep the Cable bill on. Then get you some internet or go to the Library for Goodness sakes if you don't have a computer at home.

Oh those babies make me wanna cry

 

[bluediamond0829]

I read through majority of the post.

And once i saw the show i can just say it was very disturbing to me especially after she brought the kids on. I think she really focused and helped mess these kids minds up even more. I had to turn it down especially when she started explaining the difference in the texture of the hair and the comparison she did with Michael Jackson when he was apart of Jackson 5.

Very disturbing of women putting weaves and relaxing their daughters hair at such a very young age. Maybe its that i dont have kids but i think this is very much of being lazy and not wanting to deal with doing their own childrens hair. This is just a easy way for these lazy behind mothers to not take the proper care of their daughters hair.

When i was younger all my mom did was pony tails and braids on me and for special times(Easter and i was going to church) she would straighten it but this was when i got into either 4th or 5th grade.

She could did a little better with suggesting something more to these women that obviously didnt understand how to care for their daughters hair and to make sure if they are going to apply chemicals to their hair that they are applying it correctly so these girls arent bald when they get 10.

I think that the show couldve been worse but I just think that there are so many other issues to focus on in the US other than "good hair" vs bad hair.

 

[Mamamia]

I think so even though it wasn't stated. I got that from the first girl that made the swang comment when she said she had nice hair. It's like so what I'm dark skinned but I have long hair (by most black people's standards) or I have nice hair. You catch hell when you're dark and don't let you be bald or nappy headed. Oh yeah and don't be fat too. Unless you're really really pretty.

I know! Society is SOOOOO messed up! My mom is half Native American with 7 daughters. Some of us (like me) have kinkier hair and are darker than the others. I have 2 sisters who are much lighter with silky wavy hair. People look at us when we're out like we cant be related and always comment on their "good hair"! Im not natural but I think its BEAUTIFUL!!!! Society has us thinking that we have so many strikes against us with our hair, skin color and whatever else. We have to show them what is truly beautiful and teach it not only to our sons and daughters but to our community because thats where the scrutiny and ignorance comes from. Im glad Tyra did the show!

 

[SmilingElephant]

Tyra can be a butthead sometimes...for real tho.

 

[Missigirl]

I was out all day and stayed up late to try and catch this show, but they were showing something else in Mississippi. What we should do is send Tyra some tyramail and let her know we exist. I have been watching Tyra and Oprah and have not seen a show on black hair education. I will admit my hair was pressed at an early age, but it was because my mom did not want to deal with the thick hair and she did not know how to handle it. She came along during the pressing comb and hot curlers you know the ones that were roasted over an open fire and placed on the hair with just enough grease to fry like an egg. I am 43 and have just learned how to handle my relaxed hair the correct way and have really thought seriously about going natural. There are so many things people don't understand about our hair we as a people have the most versitile hair there is and now that I'm older I would not trade it for anything in the world.

 

[Lei*Lei]

I used to take care of a baby a few years ago and the mom (African) used to put a weave in the little girl's hair before she turned 1. Talk about traumatic!

Just like when i was taking care of a nursery class of 3-4 year olds. There was a little 3 year old girl who literally had almost no hairline. Her mother relaxed the life out of that little girls hair and tried to hide the damage using braid extensions and phony ponies. It was dreadful...but so common where i live.

As for the lady with the "white girl flow", she reminds me of my SIL. Her hair isnt even fully sl but everytime she goes to the hair salon she calls me talking about how her hair looks like "white people"erplexed

Some of those mother's also got on my nerves. The white woman who relaxes and puts weave in her daughter's hair needs to get a quick slap cuz she made no sense at all. With she doesnt have time to do her hair with pony tails every morning. And it can't be just cuz she is white and doesn't know how to manage it. She could lean, if my mama could have done so could she,

I don't even know what to say about the lady who relaxes her 3 yr olds hair, and overlaps it at that. That poor baby's eyes when she was rinsing it out.

The little girl with the hannah montana wig also made me sad, especially when she had it on and said she thought she looked prettier like that even though it look silly.

And what 5 year old knows about "lower class"???????

Poor kids.

 

[Barbara]

Yes the President of Verifen goes to the same Synagouge my family in New York goes too. It is the same company in NY and IL that does private label cosmetics and hair care products. The majority of the hair care products out there are from the same manufacturer or a subdivision thereof. Except the HUGE companies like Proctor and Gamble and Johnson Baby Products.

Johnson Products I am not sure still has their own factory. But since no one is buying to BLOW out kit anymore??? Remember those for people older than 35???

But most of them are made in the same factory.

You're absolutely right. He told me this years ago: "George Michaels, located in New York, is the name of the manufacturing company that manufacturers all the hair care products in the United States."

In fact, I spoke to Alan today since two of my e-mails were rejected a few months ago. Now it's been fixed.

 

[LynnieB]

And what 5 year old knows about "lower class"???????

The parent(s) and other "grown" folk in their circle of influence.

"Children are like sponges" isn't just a saying, it's the truth. Much of what our kids think/do/say is a direct reflection of "us".

 

[Jazzmommy]

Wow,
I don't watch the Tyra show but I am natural and so is my 6 year old. I told her that she will not get a perm while she's a child (after that it's up to her). Unfortunately, one of the little girls in her classroom is experiencing breakage now and my daughter even notices because she said to me , "Mom, Sally's hair is coming out." It's soo sad... I suspected she had a perm.

 

[darlingdiva]

She pointed to the woman & said, "Look at the picture. These are those products for white people. This isn't for black people's hair." I tried to explain to her that there's no such thing as white people products & black people products, but, of course, she wouldn't listen.


So you don't believe some products are not only marketed but also formulated to meet the specific needs of certain hair types and groups?

I believe there are.



Also, someone mentioned the fact that the women here on LHCF are probably more saavy and educated about practices that contribute to healthy hair. I wholeheartedly agree with this perspective.

I was not raised in my immediate family with the good hair/bad hair mindset. However, I was acutely aware from outside incfluences including classmates and television. My Mother often said "any hair is good hair". However, I also had a press and curl as a child and eventually a relaxer. My mother never verbally told me I had bad or nappy hair, but to her these techniques probably meant to her "manageability".

I think the addage "when you know better, you do better" is applicable to many parents. Heck, I believe that applies to many of as members on a site dedicated to achieving long and and healthy hair (or some combination).

I for one have made the vow that if I have a daughter, she will be natural until an age I determine she can make this decision on her own. I imagine this will be sometime after she is high school. Of course, I would hope that I have sufficiently educated her to healthy habits no matter decision.

Forgive me if I did not quote properly. I am not sure how to quote specific text without quoting the whole response.

@ the bolded: I do believe it. It's just that she feels that the products that are marketed towards & formulated for people of non-African descent shouldn't be used by people of African descent & I highly disagree.

 

[lashannasmall]

OMG! These poor little girls! Their parents should be ashamed for making them feel as if they are not good enough! The three year old, her mother combed the relaxer allllllll the way through! She is gonna be bald by the time she is four! I feel bad for these children because I got a relaxer at 4! back then my hair was maybe apl surprisingly my hair never fell out until I began doing it myself when I was maybe 12. By then my hair was maybe EL but I still had enough for a little nub! My mother cut it all off an I wore braids for a year it all grew back but that was because my mother took the time to take care of it! Im not too sure she knew what she was doing but she did wash it and braid it weekly when I was younger. It was never a good/bad hair talk in my house it more of your hair is damaged and you need to start fresh! Hopefully someone will be able to talk some sense into these parents and they will teach their children to be proud of what they have!

Oh and as for the chick talking about she "I got that white girl swing!" She needs to be slapped! :hardslap::hardslap: Who says things like that! grant it her hair did appear healthy so im not knocking her but she should say that "Nappy" hair is bad she should say thatit just doesnt appeal to her! because with out that fresh relaxer you got that kinky stuff too!

Well tata for now ladies! Hope I didnt spoil it for anyone

When I saw her comb the perm all the way through, I thought the same thing. She is going to be ********** in a few years

 

[lashannasmall]

It hasn't aired here yet. So I haven't seen it. BUT based on what you all have said it sounds like Tyra is going for the most extreme and ignorant perspectives. I have never heard another black woman talk about "white girl swing". Shows like this make it seem as though blacks have no pride and that all of us are ashamed of our natural hair, skin color, bodies, and race.

I am so glad I was not raised like this or around this kind of ignorance.

I disagree. I think she showed what the majority thinks. I am sorry, most of the black people I know tolerate natural hair but if they had a choice they would take curly hair any day. I see it on this board. I see how people react to the 3 type hair as opposed to the 4 type hair.

 

[lashannasmall]

Aww for those little girls...so sad
Poor little 5 yo says they say she smells like boo-boo because her hair is long...
Then the 8 yo with the weave who mother makes her wear a weave/relaxer..
The 3 yo with overprocessed relaxed hair, crying because her scalp was burning....
5 yo who hates her hair....so, so, so, so, sad!!!!

However, I can relate to their pain especially growing up in the 80's (when light skin/curly hair was in due to Al B. Sure)-LOL My mother never tolerated that good hair/bad hair growing up. But I sure did get my share of it from neighborhood kids, school, etc...

I hated my hair as a child. Good hair/bad hair was in full force in my childhood. I felt just like the little girl with the twists.

 

[Saffirejuiliet]

I saw a small clip from the show and this type of mentality made me feel really sad for some women of African-descent. I know some women may feel this way about their hair, but it seemed so extreme on the show. No wonder people of other races refer to our hair as "nappy" or "un-professional" when it is natural b/c some people with Afro-textured hair state the same thing! And to the lady that mentioned having the "white girl flow" she sounded very ignorant in my humble opinion.

ETA: I guess I forget that in the RL some people feel this way. I am glad the forum has a neutral and positive vibe. We love healthy hair PERIOD.

 

[lashannasmall]

I think the little girl with "nappy" hair is the cutest and has the prettiest, thickest hair Did anyone see her pic with the afro? It looked so soft. I completely blame her mom for this "good hair, bad hair" thing. My kids have never even heard the term and never will, if I have anything to do with it.
This show is so sad. I make a point to tell my girls every single day how beautiful their curly hair is
I can't believe that white mom puts weave in her daughters head. I'm just SMH at this whole episode and at Tyra for making such a big fuss over natural hair, but never showing her own.
She gets on my nerves with wearing them damn cornrows every time she starts preaching about natural hair. I don't think she's even natural

It is not just about the parents, it is about society. My daughter has fabulous natural hair but occasionally people pick on her in school and it is like the words of her peers carry more weight then mine.

I have seen little girls who were raised in afrocentric households where all the pics on the walls had afros, TV was limited, the kids were in aftrocentric groups, and the kids still had issues with their hair. The small amount of outside contact they had still affected them.

Society has to shift as a whole.

 

[lashannasmall]

Somebody posted this on Tyra's Website and I could not agree more...........

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO BLACK PEOPLE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GOT YOUR OWN SHOW! ALL YOU DO IS TRY TO EXPLOIT BLACKS BY PICKING THE MOST STUPID PEOPLE YOU CAN FIND TO SAY THE MOST RIDICULOUS THINGS ON TV--ALL THE WHILE YOU'RE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK. EVERYONE KNOWS NATURAL HAIR IS BEAUTIFUL. WE'VE ALL SEEN VERY ATTRACTIVE "NATURAL" SISTAS SPORTING THEIR TRESSES. BUT, YOU WOULD HAVE ALL AMERICA BELIEVE WE WANT TO LOOK WHITE AND THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. BY THE WAY, I'VE NEVER TOOK A SURVEY WHEN I'VE PURCHASED HAIR PRODUCTS....SO, HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY BLACKS SPEND. A LOT OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR & TARGETED FOR BLACKS ARE PURCHASED BY WOMEN OF OTHER RACES WHO HAVE CURLY OR KINKY HAIR. YOU'RE A DISGRACE AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. YOU'RE A BLACK JERRY SPRINGER--HOW PATHETIC!

I disagree with this. I think that she showed the truth. Black people just don't like thier dirty laundry aired but change doesn't happen until we face things head on. It has to come into the light.

Those women sounded stupid and maybe seeing how stupid we sound will stop us from saying stupid stuff.

 

[lashannasmall]

Is anyone else annoyed that Tyra didn't have any 4b's on the show? It would have been so wonderful to see women with long, healthy "nappy" hair to show folks that it CAN be done!

She could have done so much more with this show, could have made it so much more helpful and educational.

I'm just too through with Tyra

She had the woman with the dreds