Help! Hair Is FALLING OUT!! Major Shedding!

[wyldcurlz]

two separate problems that i need LHCFers help with.

prob #1 - is my girlfriends. she relaxed her own hair, only left it on for 2 minutes, because she had an emergency to tend to. so the following day she put another relaxer in - leaving it in for the normal amount of time. now her hair is coming out by the handfuls. massive amounts of shedding. what should she do? (i recommended protein - but how often? which is best?) any and all help would be appreciated.

prob #2 - i've used weaves as protective styles, but i notice that when i take them down, my hair seems so thin. i've always had "a lot of hair" on my head but wearing the weaves for the past year its very thin. anyone else experience this? if so why does it happen? what can i do to get my hair back to its old self?

 

[mscocoface]

Issue one. I am not that well versed on relaxed hair but I think she can do an aphogee treatment to help with the shedding and she will need to do some serious low or no manipulation with moisture treatments afterwards but the relaxed ladies can confirm this.

For you the first step is obvious stop with the weaves and even possibly an aphogee treatment. After that I would set up a 1 year self challenge and deep condition once a week with lo or no manipulation hair styles until you get your hair back to a healthy state.

You both are going to needs some patience because your hair is not happy and it will take a minute to get it back to where it was. Maybe you both can be accountability partners with each other to keep each other on track with your plans and your progress.

 

[Solitude]

Does that 2 minutes include application time? The chemicals were probably on her hair for much longer. I haven't had a lot of relaxer problems over the years, but the hair that I have had that has broken from being overprocessed was irreparable and eventually had to be cut.

One of my close friends who had thick hair as a child & now wears weaves is experiencing thin hair as well. I feel like it has something to do with the hair being braided under a sew-in & the overall stress on hair during the install and take down of a weave, but I'm not really sure.

 

[wyldcurlz]

Does that 2 minutes include application time? The chemicals were probably on her hair for much longer. I haven't had a lot of relaxer problems over the years, but the hair that I have had that has broken from being overprocessed was irreparable and eventually had to be cut.

One of my close friends who had thick hair as a child & now wears weaves is experiencing thin hair as well. I feel like it has something to do with the hair being braided under a sew-in & the overall stress on hair during the install and take down of a weave, but I'm not really sure.

i agree. i have no idea what it could be. my hair has grown, but its sooo thin! its crazy. it has to have something to do with the being braided and the install/take-down process because i work overtime to make sure everything is gentle while i have it in and that the take down is slow and gentle, but there is enough hair on the floor to make a few wefts!

Issue one. I am not that well versed on relaxed hair but I think she can do an aphogee treatment to help with the shedding and she will need to do some serious low or no manipulation with moisture treatments afterwards but the relaxed ladies can confirm this.

For you the first step is obvious stop with the weaves and even possibly an aphogee treatment. After that I would set up a 1 year self challenge and deep condition once a week with lo or no manipulation hair styles until you get your hair back to a healthy state.

You both are going to needs some patience because your hair is not happy and it will take a minute to get it back to where it was. Maybe you both can be accountability partners with each other to keep each other on track with your plans and your progress.

yes, i told her protein and moisture. but she may have to cut it, you guys are right. as for me...i have no idea what to do but i'm so mad! the weaves are easy and they're the only protective style that i really like, but i can't have this thinned out hair. my hairline/edges are great, but my ponytail is anemic looking.

 

[jerseygurl]

two separate problems that i need LHCFers help with.

prob #1 - is my girlfriends. she relaxed her own hair, only left it on for 2 minutes, because she had an emergency to tend to. so the following day she put another relaxer in - leaving it in for the normal amount of time. now her hair is coming out by the handfuls. massive amounts of shedding. what should she do? (i recommended protein - but how often? which is best?) any and all help would be appreciated.
Is her hair shedding or breaking? Those are two different things. If she put the relaxer throughout her hair then the straightening process had already began and it was a bad idea to rerelax her hair. If her hair is BREAKING (random lengths of hair no white bulb) then aphogee 2 step is the way to go, it will stop the breakage. If it's shedding (white bulb at the end of the hair) then a garlic shampoo and/or conditioner may work for her. Depending on the action she takes right now, she may not need to cut her hair. Please tell your friend to use the aphogee and use an extremely MOISTURIZING DC afterwards. She may have to do this a couple of times.

prob #2 - i've used weaves as protective styles, but i notice that when i take them down, my hair seems so thin. i've always had "a lot of hair" on my head but wearing the weaves for the past year its very thin. anyone else experience this? if so why does it happen? what can i do to get my hair back to its old self?
How do you take care of your hair while you're wearing the weave? While I'm not a weave wearer I can say that if you don't take care of the hair underneath the weave, you might have issues after you take them out. A lot of ladies do experience that. My only suggestion would be to rethink wearing weaves or if you have to, try and wash your real hair on a regular basis.

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[msa]

1. If your friend's hair is coming out in clumps then it sounds like the chemicals irritated or damaged her scalp. Even if it's breakage, I suggest she neutralizes her hair really well (leave the shampoo in for several minutes). Protein will not affect the shedding, but it may help with the breakage.

2. There's several reasons why your hair could be thinning from the weave. Usually, people don't take care of their hair well while it's weaved up. But another big problem is the braids being too tight combined with the sewing being too tight. All that tension can basically cause the thread to cut through your strands, leaving you with random breakage throughout you head.

If you can't take care of your hair well while wearing weave, or find someone you trust to put them in, I suggest you stay away from them. Wigs are a great protective style and a good alternative to weaves.

 

[Jetblackhair]

Do you have fine hair? I'm thinking maybe the thread could be slicing through your hair like MSA said.

 

[hillytmj]

I can't reply to issue #2, but for number one, I think a protein treatment would stop the shedding. I like the Avalon 5 in 1 reconstructor and I've seen lots of good comments about Aphogee.

For issue #2, maybe taking a break from weaves will give your hair time to restore itself (with the right reggie, of course).

 

[TonicaG]

I think a lot of ladies are under the assumption that protein will stop shedding. It won't, but it will stop the breakage. Garlic will help reduce the shedding but shedding is a normal process in the cycle of hair growth.

#1 - Chemical damage is hard to recover from. It takes time, patience and a consistent balance of protein and moisture. Your friend needs to make sure she has neutralized her hair really well, do a protein treatment followed by a deep moisturizing conditioner and then finish up with Porosity Control to ensure the PH level in her hair is stable.

#2 - I too am NOT a weave wearer so I'm not sure why the thinning, however, I am inclined to piggy back like the other ladies have suggested. The hair could potentially be getting cut from the weave thread. You may want to chill out for a minute with the weave and do spiral sets or something that causes you to not manipulate the hair so much.

 

[ajoyfuljoy]

Did she neutralize her hair? I'm not sure how to repair damage from relaxers - or if you even can b/c it is a chemical change to the strand. You can lessen the effect of the damage using many of the tips that the ladies mentioned. But I'm not sure about this one.

Once you relax and it doesn't work out, you have to sit it out and wait until your hair/scalp has had time to recover. I know on the relaxer boxes they say at least two weeks. But I think it is more safe to wait at least six. She should probably not relax for a while and really, really give her hair a break.

I hope your friends hair turns out OK.

And for you, just try maybe six months without the weave and see what the state of your hair is. I hope it all works out for you.

 

[girlyprincess23]

Okay. I don't really have any help except to say if it is shedding protein is not going to help that is for breakage like a previous poster said, and maybe garlic would be better the alter ego i heard is good and I personally use the UNA hair loss prevention treatment when my hair starts shedding more than usual. But my real reason for posting this is to get more feedbackon the thread slicing through hairs issue when in weaves. I have a few questions as I was planning to do a hide your hair challenge for a year using sew-ins. My main question is does this happen when you do not mix kanekalon in and just braid your own hair and then sew the weave on top of it? Otherwise I don't see how it could get to your to slice it with all the rougher fake hair mixed in there?

 

[msa]

Okay. I don't really have any help except to say if it is shedding protein is not going to help that is for breakage like a previous poster said, and maybe garlic would be better the alter ego i heard is good and I personally use the UNA hair loss prevention treatment when my hair starts shedding more than usual. But my real reason for posting this is to get more feedbackon the thread slicing through hairs issue when in weaves. I have a few questions as I was planning to do a hide your hair challenge for a year using sew-ins. My main question is does this happen when you do not mix kanekalon in and just braid your own hair and then sew the weave on top of it? Otherwise I don't see how it could get to your to slice it with all the rougher fake hair mixed in there?

Even if you have fake hair mixed in, your hair can still be affected. If the braids are done really tight and then you have to sew through the tight braids you cause a lot of friction. Add to that sewing it really tight, when you wash and condition the tension if the thread is going to easily cut through your hair.

The best thing to do is make sure your braids aren't too tight and that the sewing is secure but not with too much tension. I also put castor oil on my thread to my protect my hair.

 

[wyldcurlz]

Okay. I don't really have any help except to say if it is shedding protein is not going to help that is for breakage like a previous poster said, and maybe garlic would be better the alter ego i heard is good and I personally use the UNA hair loss prevention treatment when my hair starts shedding more than usual. But my real reason for posting this is to get more feedbackon the thread slicing through hairs issue when in weaves. I have a few questions as I was planning to do a hide your hair challenge for a year using sew-ins. My main question is does this happen when you do not mix kanekalon in and just braid your own hair and then sew the weave on top of it? Otherwise I don't see how it could get to your to slice it with all the rougher fake hair mixed in there?

i hope others can answer that question for you. i have no idea if anything is slicing through my hair. and i think i take good care of my real hair under the weave. they put a net over the braids then sew the wefts in. but i usually just leave my hair alone under there. it grows like mad, its just so much thinner now. not really sure what to do, but will probably take a break.

 

[**SaSSy**]

two separate problems that i need LHCFers help with.

prob #1 - is my girlfriends. she relaxed her own hair, only left it on for 2 minutes, because she had an emergency to tend to. so the following day she put another relaxer in - leaving it in for the normal amount of time. now her hair is coming out by the handfuls. massive amounts of shedding. what should she do? (i recommended protein - but how often? which is best?) any and all help would be appreciated.

NOOOoooo! Please tell your friend not to relaxer her hair 2 days in a row. If her hair didn't get straight enough the first time, then she really needs to wait atleast 6 to 8 weeks to do it again. She need a good treatment of Aphogee treatment for damaged hair ONLY once every 6 weeks, and just protect and moisture until her next touch-up

prob #2 - i've used weaves as protective styles, but i notice that when i take them down, my hair seems so thin. i've always had "a lot of hair" on my head but wearing the weaves for the past year its very thin. anyone else experience this? if so why does it happen? what can i do to get my hair back to its old self?
This is coming from the stress you are putting on your hair from consistently puting the weave in your hair. Your hair needs a resting period. Between this time you should baby your hair and not put the weave back in right away. You should do a good protein treatment and DC with a moisture based afterwards.

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[jaszymeen]

ita with everything **SaSSy** said. she definately shouldn't have put a relaxer on there two days back to back. if you don't give your a hair a break in between installs then that could be one of your problems

 

[msa]

i hope others can answer that question for you. i have no idea if anything is slicing through my hair. and i think i take good care of my real hair under the weave. they put a net over the braids then sew the wefts in. but i usually just leave my hair alone under there. it grows like mad, its just so much thinner now. not really sure what to do, but will probably take a break.

If you're just leaving your hair alone, then you're not taking good care of it. A net would make it way more difficult for me to take care of my hair under the weave. I still continue with my regimen while weaved up.

You're probably experiencing thinning because your hair is getting dried out and then breaking off (especially during take down). If you're not gong to keep up with your conditioning and moisturizing then using the weave as a protective style is pointless.

 

[luvulongtime]

Tonica, what do you mean when you say follow up with a Porosity Control?

I think a lot of ladies are under the assumption that protein will stop shedding. It won't, but it will stop the breakage. Garlic will help reduce the shedding but shedding is a normal process in the cycle of hair growth.

#1 - Chemical damage is hard to recover from. It takes time, patience and a consistent balance of protein and moisture. Your friend needs to make sure she has neutralized her hair really well, do a protein treatment followed by a deep moisturizing conditioner and then finish up with Porosity Control to ensure the PH level in her hair is stable.

#2 - I too am NOT a weave wearer so I'm not sure why the thinning, however, I am inclined to piggy back like the other ladies have suggested. The hair could potentially be getting cut from the weave thread. You may want to chill out for a minute with the weave and do spiral sets or something that causes you to not manipulate the hair so much.

 

[msa]

Tonica, what do you mean when you say follow up with a Porosity Control?

Porosity Control is a product. There's several threads about it, try searching "porosity control" or "pc".

 

[luvulongtime]

Porosity Control is a product. There's several threads about it, try searching "porosity control" or "pc".

MSA thank you for responding, I just became aware of the PC product, but when referring t o this shedding issue...after the Apogee treatment and DC, you said to do a PC. Do you mean wash with the Porosity Control Poo and Conditioner after doing this treament and DC?

 

[msa]

MSA thank you for responding, I just became aware of the PC product, but when referring t o this shedding issue...after the Apogee treatment and DC, you said to do a PC. Do you mean wash with the Porosity Control Poo and Conditioner after doing this treament and DC?

I'm sure she probably meant the porosity control conditioner that everyone uses. You wouldn't want to rewash after doing protein and then dc'ing. From what I've read people just use the PC after they've done everything else.

But, protein/dc'ing/pc is not going to stop shedding, nothing can really do that. Garlic seems to slow it down or maybe reduce it, but nothing can really stop it.