Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[mccray689]

Hey ladies! There is A LOT of great info in this thread, so thanks for that, but I'm still a bit confused about a few things. First off, i went to the Soft-liss website and saw nothing about a BKT there. Is the product they call "intelligent brush" their actual treatment? If I decided to try, it would definitely be soft-liss b/c I want a form free product.

Also, any 3B fine haired naturals doing BKTs? I would love, love, love to know this so I can talk to you more about your experience. Anyone experience thicker hair because of the keratin bonding process?

Thanks in advance for ur responses ladies!

The intelligent brush is the treatment. I'm a 4a/4b and just used Softliss for the first time.

 

[Dak]

Hey ladies! There is A LOT of great info in this thread, so thanks for that, but I'm still a bit confused about a few things. First off, i went to the Soft-liss website and saw nothing about a BKT there. Is the product they call "intelligent brush" their actual treatment? If I decided to try, it would definitely be soft-liss b/c I want a form free product.

Also, any 3B fine haired naturals doing BKTs? I would love, love, love to know this so I can talk to you more about your experience. Anyone experience thicker hair because of the keratin bonding process?

Thanks in advance for ur responses ladies!

Fine haired 3C & natural here. I wouldn't say it's thicker, but the individual strands have less random angles to it now, the length of the strands are now smooth. Pony tail holders now just slide off my hair, they don't tangle or get caught in anything.

I should add that although I have fine hair, it's not thin, I have a lot of it, so the BKT has taken some of the bulk away. (that "bulk" coming from frizz and randomness)

 

[Natural Glow]

Okay I have a few questions for the ladies that use Soft-liss. How long is it taking you guys to receive the product?

Also do you guys think if I use Clairol Luminize prior to the BKT it will make my hair bone straight? I don't want it to get too straight.

 

[Dak]

I'm in CA, I got it within 3 days.

 

[pet]

Hey everyone! I just recently finished by second treatment with QOD Gold, and I'm loving it! I have gotten through about 100 pages of this thread...lol, and I noticed that the brand that is used the most is softliss.

My question is, with softliss, you basically have to flat iron the hair twice in one-two days....isn't that too much heat for anyone's hair?....I don't get why people like it so much, if it's just more work..

I'm a 4a natural....I clarify, put a tad bit of QOD Gold on, and flat iron all in about 5 hours...and at the end my hair is just great! When I wash, my hair has no frizz, and is 90% straight/flat after I blow-dry, and it doesn't revert after being flat-ironed (I wash once every 2 weeks). I would hate to wet my hair after taking the time to flat-iron it, to just flat-iron it over again...as you have to do with the softliss treatment...am I understanding this wrong?

I do understand that the softliss treatment is more cost effective...which is good. Also, people do not want to wait four days for the treatment to set in....well, I don't wait four days with the QOD Gold...I do wear my hair out for like 3 days...but I wrap my hair at night with no pins and sleep as usual, and my hair comes out fine.

I just want to understand the benefits of Softliss...I'm interested because it is cheaper..

On another note, does anyone know where I would be able to get a big bottle of QOD Gold? I believe you can't order from the website...

Thanks!!!

 

[Lucia]

Hey everyone! I just recently finished by second treatment with QOD Gold, and I'm loving it! I have gotten through about 100 pages of this thread...lol, and I noticed that the brand that is used the most is softliss.

My question is, with softliss, you basically have to flat iron the hair twice in one-two days....isn't that too much heat for anyone's hair?....I don't get why people like it so much, if it's just more work..

I'm a 4a natural....I clarify, put a tad bit of QOD Gold on, and flat iron all in about 5 hours...and at the end my hair is just great! When I wash, my hair has no frizz, and is 90% straight/flat after I blow-dry, and it doesn't revert after being flat-ironed (I wash once every 2 weeks). I would hate to wet my hair after taking the time to flat-iron it, to just flat-iron it over again...as you have to do with the softliss treatment...am I understanding this wrong?

I do understand that the softliss treatment is more cost effective...which is good. Also, people do not want to wait four days for the treatment to set in....well, I don't wait four days with the QOD Gold...I do wear my hair out for like 3 days...but I wrap my hair at night with no pins and sleep as usual, and my hair comes out fine.

I just want to understand the benefits of Softliss...I'm interested because it is cheaper..

On another note, does anyone know where I would be able to get a big bottle of QOD Gold? I believe you can't order from the website...

Thanks!!!

I think you can wait a day 3 if you want, you don't really have to do it all in one day one of the posters waited I think you might want to check, and her hairs OK.

 

[sheba1]

I think you can wait a day 3 if you want, you don't really have to do it all in one day one of the posters waited I think you might want to check, and her hairs OK.

Definitely

Or you don't have to do the second flat iron, at all. The first flat iron seals the treatment and the mask is the final layer. You don't have to flat iron after you rinse out the mask. You could PS until your next wash day and flat iron from there.

Hey Pet, will the 1000 ml QOD Gold do it for you? I saw it on Amazon for $350: http://www.amazon.com/Brazilian-Keratin-Treatment-QOD-1000ml/dp/B002CEUIQ8

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Hey Bkt-Brainiacs, thanks for all the great updates and pics!! I will probably do my second bkt in two weeks using Softliss. I first used Softliss July 10th-ish...

But I have questions -

1)Is anyone experiencing breakage and/or shedding?

I have some short hairs when I comb and my hair has been shedding a little more than usual.
Now, I have been cowashing almost daily and wet bunning, but my hair does dry during the day, so it isn't wet 24/7...[My hair looks like it is beginning to revert, but it seemed to straighten really quickly today.]
I've been using Aphogee Keratin and other cons with protein/keratin, etc...staying away from anything with sodium - which requires me to read labels - which i abhor doing...

>Also, I have been using an mtg/mn mix on my scalp a few days a week -
2)Do you think this could cause shedding?

3)Do you think a Formaldehyde version of BKT such as OK, Global, etc. would bring straighter and stronger hair than Softliss?

Update:
I went to the salon and had a blowout/f-iron and my hair looks longer, feels thicker and heavier, so that was the good thing. But my stylist ripped out so much of my hair it made me wince and shudder - that was the bad thing. I
should have done my hair myself, but I was just exhausted. *kicks self - twice*

Fab, Dahhhling,
I haven't been on the board lately, bcs I've been consumed with stuff --just consumed and I didn't have the nrg or time to read and/or post. But I'm here in Spirit, Bet.
~B*

 

[sheba1]

Hey Bkt-Brainiacs, thanks for all the great updates and pics!! I will probably do my second bkt in two weeks using Softliss. I first used Softliss July 10th-ish...

But I have questions -

1)Is anyone experiencing breakage and/or shedding?

Thank goodness, no! Since BKT I experience hardly any breakage. I recently started shedding more since I began using an MT/MN mix.

I have some short hairs when I comb and my hair has been shedding a little more than usual.
Now, I have been cowashing almost daily and wet bunning, but my hair does dry during the day, so it isn't wet 24/7...[My hair looks like it is beginning to revert, but it seemed to straighten really quickly today.]
I've been using Aphogee Keratin and other cons with protein/keratin, etc...staying away from anything with sodium - which requires me to read labels - which i abhor doing...

Good news is, once you find your products that you'll use, you can use them repeatedly without having to re read the labels. Oh, and the quick and easy answer is to just use products that say "safe for color treated hair"

There's also a site; www.tightlycurly.com that has a list of products that are sodium chloride free as she does not feel these are good for naturally curly (and therefor naturally dry) hair. Lots of good conditioners and even mild shampoos that would be good for BKT'd hair.

>Also, I have been using an mtg/mn mix on my scalp a few days a week -
2)Do you think this could cause shedding?

Definitely can Any time you start a growth aide you can experience shedding as the follicles reset before growth starts. Someone posted an article about this in regards to other products that are supposed to help with pattern baldness. I remember them stating that this initial increased shedding was a good sign that the hair growth product of choice was going to be successful.

3)Do you think a Formaldehyde version of BKT such as OK, Global, etc. would bring straighter and stronger hair than Softliss?

I suppose it could with continued use. Brittany's hair is straight nearly straight out of the shower and she uses 4% global. I use Global 2%, however, and my hair does not seem to get nearly as straight as those with my similar hair type using Softliss (even though I colored before my application).

Update

:
I went to the salon and had a blowout/f-iron and my hair looks longer, feels thicker and heavier, so that was the good thing. But my stylist ripped out so much of my hair it made me wince and shudder - that was the bad thing. I
should have done my hair myself, but I was just exhausted. *kicks self - twice*

Fab, Dahhhling,
I haven't been on the board lately, bcs I've been consumed with stuff --just consumed and I didn't have the nrg or time to read and/or post. But I'm here in Spirit, Bet.
~B*

I'm so sorry to hear that your stylist was rough with your hair. I am glad, however, you're still enjoying your BKT treated hair! Thank you for the update!!

 

[Wanderland]

Anyone use Root Control either Rsession or Babyliss. I saw earlier in another thread that Sheba was going to use it, and I know Brittany from yt does. I'm interested in using it. Any reviews and specifically is the Rsession that much greater than the Babyliss?

 

[sheba1]

Anyone use Root Control either Rsession or Babyliss. I saw earlier in another thread that Sheba was going to use it, and I know Brittany from yt does. I'm interested in using it. Any reviews and specifically is the Rsession that much greater than the Babyliss?

Hey there, Wanderland. Your hair is looking lovely in your avitar. So full and healthy!

I did purchase the Babyliss version and used it for either my 2nd or 3rd treatment. I didn't feel it necessary for continued use because I didn't really have any trouble getting to my roots with my FHI. With the treatment in and blow drying with a comb attachment my hair gets nearly straight. And then when I flat iron I have no trouble, at all, getting very close to my scalp. So I shelved my root straightener. In fact, I'd be willing to sell it if anyone wants it.

As far as whether it's as good as the R session version? Both products go to the same max temp (450 degrees). The R session has great amenities; it's ceramic and has digital temp control. The reviews on the R session are mixed and I couldn't justify spending the money for myself, as my roots just don't seem to be a major problem for me. HTH, Wanderland!

 

[blissy]

Fellow bkters!

I have a question about curl definition wash and gos. My last bkt was with softliss about four weeks ago. The treatment has begun to wear off and curls/coils are returning. My current regimen for wng is tresumme moisture followed by Aussie moist. Once my hair dries, it looks crazy. The roots are poofy and the hair is frizzy. I'm not ready for another treatment because of the fear of super straight hair. Any suggestions? Products? Techniques?

Thanks.

 

[sheba1]

Fellow bkters!

I have a question about curl definition wash and gos. My last bkt was with softliss about four weeks ago. The treatment has begun to wear off and curls/coils are returning. My current regimen for wng is tresumme moisture followed by Aussie moist. Once my hair dries, it looks crazy. The roots are poofy and the hair is frizzy. I'm not ready for another treatment because of the fear of super straight hair. Any suggestions? Products? Techniques?

Thanks.

Hey there Blissy, I wear wash-n-gos, wet buns and otherwise curly styles all the days of my BKT (except for application day). I mostly use the tips from the Curly Primer method of www.tightlycurly.com . I do not bother to use my denman each time, however, as I cowash daily.

Here's what I do. I cowash with a cheapie con like Vo5 clarifying conditioner, Tresseme moisture rich, Suave Coconut, etc. While rinsing, I part my hair down the middle with my fingers. While running water through each side of my hair, I randomly section my hair and add Aussie Sidney Smooth conditioner, allowing the water and conditoner to weigh my hair down. After coated on either side I smooth my hair with my hands and squeeze out the excess water and conditioner. From here I'll add some coconut oil and some black and sassy cream set. I smear it all through my hands and piece through my hair making sure to smooth it through evenly. Again I smooth my hair back and squeeze out any excess water and product. I tilt my head over and shake my head back and forth a little bit for separation and go! As the day goes my hair dries like my avatar.

I'll attach a pic so you can see it better. If you click the picture below it will enlarge.


There are more pics of the progression of my wash n go from morning to night in my fotki. HTH

 

[blissy]

Sheba1
Thank you for the quick reply with a detailed regimen. Wow, there are a few things I can add to my plan of attack.
Thanks again. I'll keep you posted.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

As always, Sheba, thank you thank you thank you!
Any idea what's the deal with breakage? I expected bkt to curtail breakage...

 

[movado32k1]

Thank you all! I read this whole theard and I did my BKT today!!! I could not have done it without you. Here are my results!!!! The first picture is my 4b natural hair before the BKT and the last two pictures are my BKT hair. I did the Softliss and I was soooo scared because my hair felt so hard until the second flat iron with some EVOC. Now it is sooooo bouncy and wonderful I am pleased. Thanks again All. I LOVE LHCF!!!!

 

[*fabulosity*]

Thank you all! I read this whole theard and I did my BKT today!!! I could not have done it without you. Here are my results!!!! The first picture is my 4b natural hair before the BKT and the last two pictures are my BKT hair. I did the Softliss and I was soooo scared because my hair felt so hard until the second flat iron with some EVOC. Now it is sooooo bouncy and wonderful I am pleased. Thanks again All. I LOVE LHCF!!!!

WOW! BKT is the business.

 

[girlyprincess23]

Now that I have some time.. here are the prices for everything...

NK Clarifying Shampoo
105 oz $ 82.50
13.5 oz $18
8 oz $12

NK Hair Therapy Cream (aka the BKT)
105 oz $ 555.00
13.5 oz $110
7 oz $60

Hair Power Improving Mask
24 oz $180 (I really want to see what this one does..for this kind of $)

NK Magic Touch (Leave In)
3.5 oz $32 (I want this sooo bad)

NK Hair Shampoo
11 oz $28

Titanium Flat Iron
$136

NK Hair Spa Keratin
11 oz $275 (another one that better have some magical powers)

Spa Keratin Kit $249
11 oz Hair Spa Keratin
11 oz Hair Shampoo
3.5 oz Magic Touch Leave In (1)
**see how they push you into the kit**

All the other prices I think I posted for the other kits. They have yummy descriptions as to what this stuff does.. but its a PDF. If you guys want it.. PM me your email addy and I'll forward it.

I'm gonna call in a few. I think you can probably email your order or call it in. Still don't know what kind of BKT (forma no forma) to get from them!!!

ETA: It'll be next month for me.. but I will try to gain permission from one of my "clients" aka friends.. to post their hair pics. They all pretty much have delicious looking hair so I can't wait to see what the BKT is gonna look like.

Thank you. PM me if you get thet kit and want to sell that flat iron!

 

[sheba1]

Sheba1
Thank you for the quick reply with a detailed regimen. Wow, there are a few things I can add to my plan of attack.
Thanks again. I'll keep you posted.

You are so welcome!

As always, Sheba, thank you thank you thank you!
Any idea what's the deal with breakage? I expected bkt to curtail breakage...

Awww, you're very welcome, Bronze. I think breakage could ease it's way in with the BKT because our hair feels like it doesn't need anything after. I still think it needs DCs and protein treatments, etc. It just doesn't seem to feel like it needs it. Are you still DCing like before? Moisture/protein balance and all that?

You know, my BKT stopped breakage in its tracks but it really allowed me to up my DC game, also. Since I started cowashing daily, anyhow, it was a perfect opportunity to add a little coconut oil and conditioner of choice (sometimes a DC even) and wet bun with conditioner in. My hair's condition took off like a rocket within a couple months of this.

Just recently I placed a big ole order with roundbrushhair.com and did the 24 hour DC with some Silicon Mix and um... whale sperm :blush3: and my hair! OMG my hair is amazing!!! After I cowashed the next day my hair's the softest it's ever been. I wore a puff today and my hair has never dried the way it did today. I'm really excited to see what these products do to my hair over the long term.

Thank you all! I read this whole theard and I did my BKT today!!! I could not have done it without you. Here are my results!!!! The first picture is my 4b natural hair before the BKT and the last two pictures are my BKT hair. I did the Softliss and I was soooo scared because my hair felt so hard until the second flat iron with some EVOC. Now it is sooooo bouncy and wonderful I am pleased. Thanks again
All. I LOVE LHCF!!!!

My goodness, Movado (I love these!), your hair had me in all three pictures, lady. BKT is all that, but your hair was already the bizness! Wow!! What was that? A twist out? Wow.. really beautiful hair.

So tell me, where in the process was your hair hard? After the initial flat iron wth product in? Or after you rinsed the mask out? Are the pictures above before you rinsed your Softliss BKT app out? If so, when do you plan on doing your mask? Inquiring minds...

Sorry for all the questions. You may have read that I have the Softliss but haven't used it yet. I may use it for my next app since results like yours, Veejee's and Fabulosity's keep popping up in the thread! But I haven't decided how I'll use it, exactly. I don't think I'll wash after the customary 1 hour. I may wear my hair straight (post application) for a couple of days depending on how my hair looks with product in.

 

[*fabulosity*]

Fab,

I didn't have a fume extractor but I did the treatment by my patio and it was a total hot mess. My Softliss would've lasted longer but the the toner and the bleached from my highlights removed some of the treatment. It wasn't as bad as I expected thought, instead of 100% straight it was about 80% straight and that's AFTER the color. I would err on the side of caution and maybe stay under 2%. Have you thought about Peter Coppola, the one SouthernTease uses? I LOVE how her curls looks (even though I don't want want to fool with my curly hair..LOL).

Hey girl! Don't know how I missed this the first go around.. I stalk this thread.. lol. I'm still surprised that the 0% lasted AT ALL through the highlighting process. That's awesome. Ok where do I buy and "fume extractor" and how much does it cost.. lol. My friend came over Friday night with her Softliss and it took me 7.5 hours.. she got to my house at about 6:45... it was well after 2 a.m. when we got done. This is because her hair is thick as all get out.. and 2.. I'm a perfectionist. The hair is supposed to be nonsticky or coated feeling after the flat iron. But it ended up coming out B E A U T I F U L. I'm just too impressed with the treatment with no formaldehyde.. which just makes me want to try the formaldehyde to see what the heck it can possibly do to improve upon the sofliss result!! I don't know what Coppola never piqued my PJ interest.. ST's hair (again great with and without treatment) looked awesome.. but I don't know why I consider it to be more "commercial" (not that its a bad thing.. who knows)... Plus do you have to be licensed to get that?

I've been a BKTing fool this weekend.. I had to give Mama Fab another one.. this was like 6 weeks and her hair took get this.. LESS THAN AN OUNCE... I used a comb and I'm mad that I put too much in the bowl. She got it cut (she couldn't stand it).. but it's still right at SL in the back and layered.. it was so beautiful.. we did it straight and she was like swinging it! I'm like settle down Mama... I didn't do the mask on her or my friend. I was too tired... My mom's only took about 2 hours.. but I want to see how delaying the mask does.. (letting the BKT stay in the hair longer).

I just emailed Nanokeratin and asked if you had to have a license to purchase. I don't believe you found this out yet right Fab?

If it hasn't already been posted I will let you all know what they say.

Nope, I have not found out yet. Did they email you back.. now since somebody wants the flat iron... lol.. I'm going to get the kit with 0% and six ounces of the formaldehyde one. YAY!!!! Regardless if they need a license I will just have to have some of my stylists go into shady ops.. LMAO.. (but I am hoping that they won't) because they never said anything about it?

Okay I have a few questions for the ladies that use Soft-liss. How long is it taking you guys to receive the product?

Also do you guys think if I use Clairol Luminize prior to the BKT it will make my hair bone straight? I don't want it to get too straight.

Your hair is already . Softliss comes lightning fast. Like less than a week.

Thank you. PM me if you get thet kit and want to sell that flat iron!

Umm I will be PMing you. You helped me make my decision!!!!!

 

[sheba1]

I had virgin 4a/b hair. I did a semi permanent color right before my first treatment trying to get straight results with my 2% Global and you can see from my siggy that after 2 treatments my hair isn't anywhere near straight. I like the result I ended up with better than what I was going for. I've now done 4 BKTs and my hair is very curly but can be stretched and straightened easily.

With the 2% Global my hair still frizzes and poofs with humidity when straight but not when curly.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I just did my second Sotfliss, I used waaaay less product and it was great...no sticky hair this time. I had to put it on withot gloves so I could feel what I was doing. That helped a lot!

I really focused on my roots this time because they have been

I haven't done my final rinse. I'm thinking of waiting until after my morning workout.... Any thoughts about this? I remember one Softliss user who waited until morning for their final rinse. The other thing I plan to do with the final rinse is a short DC with either Silcone Mix or Joico Moisture.

My hair feels so much better this time. I'll see how my roots hold up over time with this treatment. If they still seem out of control I'll try the QOD Gold or the OK Keratin next time. Perhaps I need the formaldehyde for my roots.

My hair has really grown. I did a seek and destroy for my ends. I still can't bring myself to go to the salon for a real trim. I know they are going to get me when I go so I want to feel I'm able to afford losing 1" to 1.5" length because hair stylists never follow directions when I ask them for a "light trim"

 

[hothair]

Also do you guys think if I use Clairol Luminize prior to the BKT it will make my hair bone straight? I don't want it to get too straight.

I did this yesterday and I don't think it'll get your hair bone straight

I'm a NATURAL 4ab and use Global BKT. I just did my 4th treatment and I it. I did my first treatment in May

I have retained my growth and my strands feel heavier. When I straighten and wash without manipulation my hair still retains ALL its coilies just a bit more defined, haven't had any breakage or shedding and flatiron my hair once a week (using Aphogee based reggie - See Ateyaaa on youtube)

I can't imagine not ever doing this, I still have my texture just better and a lot softer and easier management

When I'm not too hungry (Ramadan) I'll upload comparison pics from the first to the last treatment.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Have anyone used the Softliss Marine Algae KIT? The description sounds like it may give a straighter result.

I've been using the Chocolate.

What "flavors" of Softliss is everyone using?

 

[AtlantaJJ]

What "flavor" Soft liss are you ladies using? Im debating between the chocolate and marine algae kit. Just wondering what everyone else is using. Thanks

I think I want to try the Marine Algae KIT next. I was hoping someone on here has tried it. My Softliss came out so good, I don't want to do the final rinse part! LOL

AtlantaJJ--my roots are already in need of some help! I think I'm going to head to the store and get some coconut milk and do that "coconut relaxer" that some of the ladies do who are transitioning. They say it helps to smooth out the roots.

I was having some serious new growth issues!! Woo! I hope this treatment I just did helps! I did more passes at the roots with the flat iron.

Hey everyone,

I recently did my 4th application of QOD Max. I love it. Actually, I like how it looks prior to wash out! That's because I learned that less is more when applying. I use about 2.5 ounces and I am nearing APL. I am 15 weeks post, and I know that I can do without a relaxer for another 10 weeks fo sho! My stylist will wonder where the heck I have gone. I love BKT and heck I may only get 1 relaxer a year at this rate. We will see. I have found that coconut oil is really helpful as my moisturizer with BKT. I really didn't use coconut oil alot prior to BKT but for some reason BKT has helped me discover the shine and silkiness that coconut oil can provide. I am in love!!!!!

I want to try the Softliss but I'm not thrilled about having to wash so soon.

I agree with the first two bolded lines and and on the third. I'm going to go over night without doing the rinse. I'm going to do that in the morning. I'll see how it turns out...:scratchch

 

[F8THINHIM]

Hello everyone,
I am jumping on the softliss bandwagon and want to do my hair this week. I got the chocolate. I have a question...
I see where folks are doing a second flat iron after the mask, but I don't see that in the directions that came with the kit. Is this after the final rinse? Is it at 450 also?
I want the same fabu results you all have been posting and I want to do this right the first time.
TIA

 

[sheba1]

Hello everyone,
I am jumping on the softliss bandwagon and want to do my hair this week. I got the chocolate. I have a question...
I see where folks are doing a second flat iron after the mask, but I don't see that in the directions that came with the kit. Is this after the final rinse? Is it at 450 also?
I want the same fabu results you all have been posting and I want to do this right the first time.
TIA

The second flat iron after the final rinse is just regular styling. At the time you have rinsed out the mask you are done with the BKT. Just style your hair from there; i.e. wet bun, wash n go, roller set, blow dry/flat iron, etc. I'm sure if you do decide to blow dry and flat iron you can use a lot less heat and get a silky result because the BKT will be in full effect!

Here are a few vids of Softliss application. OT, the method of application in these vids is stellar in any BKT app. It will make sure you don't use too much product, get even distribution and IMO give the best results.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHu3p9Gva8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUY0AAopvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDFaoCfhANE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSRzZMK1q4A

 

[Wanderland]

Definitely

Or you don't have to do the second flat iron, at all. The first flat iron seals the treatment and the mask is the final layer. You don't have to flat iron after you rinse out the mask. You could PS until your next wash day and flat iron from there.
http://www.amazon.com/Brazilian-Keratin-Treatment-QOD-1000ml/dp/B002CEUIQ8

I've done both, and am happy with the results. Setting my hair (flexirods, etc)right after a BKT treatment w/ mask gives me gorgeous blindinly shiny results

Thank you all! I read this whole theard and I did my BKT today!!! I could not have done it without you. Here are my results!!!! The first picture is my 4b natural hair before the BKT and the last two pictures are my BKT hair. I did the Softliss and I was soooo scared because my hair felt so hard until the second flat iron with some EVOC. Now it is sooooo bouncy and wonderful I am pleased. Thanks again All. I LOVE LHCF!!!!

Girl your hair was fantastic pre-BKT, that twist out is FANTASTIC. The results and delicious too.

Hey there, Wanderland. Your hair is looking lovely in your avitar. So full and healthy!

I did purchase the Babyliss version and used it for either my 2nd or 3rd treatment. I didn't feel it necessary for continued use because I didn't really have any trouble getting to my roots with my FHI. With the treatment in and blow drying with a comb attachment my hair gets nearly straight. And then when I flat iron I have no trouble, at all, getting very close to my scalp. So I shelved my root straightener. In fact, I'd be willing to sell it if anyone wants it.

As far as whether it's as good as the R session version? Both products go to the same max temp (450 degrees). The R session has great amenities; it's ceramic and has digital temp control. The reviews on the R session are mixed and I couldn't justify spending the money for myself, as my roots just don't seem to be a major problem for me. HTH, Wanderland!

Thanks for responding sooo quickly Sheba. I did the treatment without it, but I'm placing an order for it. I can get to my roots ok with my flatiron, but I think the babyliss root control will help me to do "touch-ups" to just the roots like Brittany.

 

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I was in Colombia last week and tried GIORGIO-Kera protein. Majority of directions are in portugese/Spanish ,I rinsed with regular water, then applied like conditioner, blow dried and styled. My hair has never looked this fabulous. Has anyone ever used this treatment before? I'm 4a/b, transitioning with extra thick shoulder length hair(people thought I had a wig on). I applied soft-liss a little over a month ago.

 

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I just did my second Sotfliss, I used waaaay less product and it was great...no sticky hair this time. I had to put it on withot gloves so I could feel what I was doing. That helped a lot!

I really focused on my roots this time because they have been

I haven't done my final rinse. I'm thinking of waiting until after my morning workout.... Any thoughts about this? I remember one Softliss user who waited until morning for their final rinse. The other thing I plan to do with the final rinse is a short DC with either Silcone Mix or Joico Moisture.

My hair feels so much better this time. I'll see how my roots hold up over time with this treatment. If they still seem out of control I'll try the QOD Gold or the OK Keratin next time. Perhaps I need the formaldehyde for my roots.

My hair has really grown. I did a seek and destroy for my ends. I still can't bring myself to go to the salon for a real trim. I know they are going to get me when I go so I want to feel I'm able to afford losing 1" to 1.5" length because hair stylists never follow directions when I ask them for a "light trim"

You are hilarious. But you want to be proactive on those ends. The friend's hair I did friday (and I hope she doesn't see me posting this... but I did tell her) her ends were HORRIFIC.. They had started to split all the way up to the middle strand of the hair.. I couldn't believe it. She's a LHCFer.. I put her on.. she buns regularly.. does henna treatments and moisturizes... I couldn't understand why her ends looked like that. Does henna somehow break the hair down or something?I was on ayurveda for all of two minutes... too messy and too complicated. And it hasn't been that long.. I got my full all over trim in September 08.. and I know she had to have one in like 2009.. She doesn't hardly use heat.. I was confused. Softliss did what it could.. making it like 500% better.. but I never want to cut anybody's hair but hers I wanted just stop the bleeding! She said she would dust when she got home.. but I think it needs a C U T.

So I said all that to say.. if you go to a stylist (and not directed at you AJJ.. but whoever reads this post).. get a mirror and make sure they do what you ask them to.. but also at the same time take into account your hair's condition. All stylists are not evil and some people are really not aware of their hair's status! I really felt if I said anything more (besides the 3 comments I made ) to my friend that she was gonna think I was jelly because I mean it was long.. but at least 2-3" needed to come off. I wouldn't dare have my hair looking like that. I'd rather cut and then be proactive instead of holding on to some "ends".