Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Sheba, you are my Shero!!! Thanks bunches! I want to do amla, brahmi, maka rinses and co-wash and dc with my beloved powders, i miss them dearly!

So, you haven't felt your treatment really stripping, huh?
No adverse effects on your tresses?
Good.
That's what i wanted to hear *YES*
I want to try a fenugreek (methi) rinse this weekend. Have you tried it?

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Girl, I want me some CutenessHair, too! Gotta luv it!

 

[Natural Glow]

Here are my Dreamhair pics both wet and dry:

wet hair, no product

flatiron hair, a little too much coconut oil

Love Dreamhair. It is the best thing ever I did another trim. I will never make to goal of MBL, unless I put down the scissors

Oh myjust beautiful. I love how blunt it is.

 

[sheba1]

Sheba, you are my Shero!!! Thanks bunches! I want to do amla, brahmi, maka rinses and co-wash and dc with my beloved powders, i miss them dearly!

So, you haven't felt your treatment really stripping, huh?
No adverse effects on your tresses?
Good.
That's what i wanted to hear *YES*
I want to try a fenugreek (methi) rinse this weekend. Have you tried it?

Nooo I haven't tried it!! And every time I say I'm going to pick some up at the store I forget! sigh... But no worries, I'm bound to remember after while.

I have some aloe juice that I use in my moisture spritzes (non ayurvedic) and I've been using it mixed with my ayurveda tea washes in place of conditioner, sometimes. Also lovely.

It's hard to tell, Bronze, since I haven't BKTd in so long so it was already starting to wear. But I don't feel that it's worn much more since I've started ayurveda. Just to be sure, you might want to wait til you were nearing bkt treatment time. Either way, let me know how it goes.

 

[jayjaycurlz]

Sheba1, Cutenss or AJJ - do you guys DC with BKT'd hair? I've been WNG since I did my BKT on Sunday night (yes, I have nice hanging waves not like the normal shrunk-up WNG I get from my thirsty hair!) I want to flat Iron tonight (for a length check) but I'd like to treat my hair first. Do you guys to moisture treatments since BKT is a protein?

Thanks,
jayjay

 

[sheba1]

Sheba1, Cutenss or AJJ - do you guys DC with BKT'd hair? I've been WNG since I did my BKT on Sunday night (yes, I have nice hanging waves not like the normal shrunk-up WNG I get from my thirsty hair!) I want to flat Iron tonight (for a length check) but I'd like to treat my hair first. Do you guys to moisture treatments since BKT is a protein?

Thanks,
jayjay

Oh yeah, your hair will still respond really well to DCs. I know Cutenss DCs like 3 days a week and you see what's goin on with all that luscious hair!

I don't really think of BKT like a protein treatment. I think of it more like a mock cuticle. So condition and maintain balance as normal. In fact, I do both protein and moisture DCs with my BKT'd hair. Both are still important, but you'll find that the balance is easier to maintain.

 

[MarieB]

Wow! All these gorgeous hair pics are making so glad I jumped on the BKT wagon and also making me...! I am so sticking with this.

 

[cutenss]

Thank you girls so much for the nice words. I appreciate it so much. Yes I do DC. It is usually with Aphogee 2 Minute Reconstructor mixed with Yes to Carrots or GVP Conditioning Balm under my bonnet dryer. You should keep up the protein/moisture balance when you have BKT. You hair will thank you. I am waiting to get my steamer hookup from WhipEffectz1 in this thread: http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=408384&highlight=steamer&page=4


I do WNG, but actually have always believe that my hair likes heat. So I am slowly going back to flatironing once or twice a month, in addition to the flatironing done when I do my treatment.Because starting in January, I will be doing my treatments every other to every third month. I think .


Its funny cause some of you said that you want "cutenss hair", and when I look at BKT hair pics, I be thinking I want me some Dak, Veejee hair, Natural Glow hair

The Dreamhair in the acai berry smells so yummy. Fumes were very minimal, if any You get it some if you flat iron towards your face like me.

 

[aegis]

idk what i did wrong but my hair feels horrible after my btk treatment. simply terrible.

 

[*fabulosity*]

I updated my Fotki ladies with photos of the Coppola Keratin Treatment.

Okay, here is my review of CTK:

My hair doesn't feel coated at all. In fact, it feels the same way it did before I starting fooling with these treatments..lol. Was it work $175 (minus the tip) HECK no!??!! I should've waited and did this at home!!! I didn't have any issues with fumes it was like he was putting conditioner in my hair.

So far I think Softliss is the keeper for me. I'm not experimenting anymore I'm just sticking with Softliss because I love how my hair behaves with it plus it's dirt cheap and I LOVE the mask.

I'll let you all know how my hair behaves after my workouts.

Oh, I LOVE the Pureology hydrating shampoooo!!!! The Coppola Vanilla Bean Conditioner is pretty good, not work $20.00 though.

The photos don't really do a good job of depicting the growth I've had. The longest part of my hair is now an 1" below my brastrap!! Yay!! I'm not trimming until March until I dust the ends, that's it.

VJ!!! Absolutely beautiful girl!!! I think we have a similar hair type. Your hair is just like my goal hair... shape and everything!

Yes I tried those Coppola Products too and they went right back to folica... that vanilla bean conditioner was just a'ight for me.. I could just use something I had in inventory.

I can't believe you paid $175!!! You do your own hair great!!!

Anyway; I say "yay" for you.... but I want you to try Dreamhair because I KNOW you will think it is the business.

 

[*fabulosity*]

Here are my Dreamhair pics both wet and dry:

wet hair, no product

flatiron hair, a little too much coconut oil

Love Dreamhair. It is the best thing ever I did another trim. I will never make to goal of MBL, unless I put down the scissors

CUTENSS!!!

OMG... its beautiful!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go girl! Dreamhair is isn't it! You make me want to go do another today. Your hair is gorgeous. Love the blunt ends. I have the V shape .. I'm jealous of your super long sides!!!

 

[cutenss]

CUTENSS!!!

OMG... its beautiful!!!! I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go girl! Dreamhair is isn't it! You make me want to go do another today. Your hair is gorgeous. Love the blunt ends. I have the V shape .. I'm jealous of your super long sides!!!

Thanks my *Fab*my e-friend. I wish my hair would grow into a "V" shape. I think that is the business. I wouldn't have nice hair if it wasn't for your PJism. Dreamhair makes me feel like a Dreamgirl

 

[Ganjababy]

ALL you girls are making my mouth water- too much hair porn going on in here! My god cutenss and AtlantaJJ! AtalantaJJ I bet you have a whole lot of swang going on. Cutenss are you natural or relaxed?

 

[cutenss]

I'm natural since July 2004

 

[AtlantaJJ]

VJ!!! Absolutely beautiful girl!!! I think we have a similar hair type. Your hair is just like my goal hair... shape and everything!

Yes I tried those Coppola Products too and they went right back to folica... that vanilla bean conditioner was just a'ight for me.. I could just use something I had in inventory.

I can't believe you paid $175!!! You do your own hair great!!!

Anyway; I say "yay" for you.... but I want you to try Dreamhair because I KNOW you will think it is the business.

I can't wait to get my Dreamhair ....

ALL you girls are making my mouth water- too much hair porn going on in here! My god cutenss and AtlantaJJ! AtalantaJJ I bet you have a whole lot of swang going on. Cutenss are you natural or relaxed?

I'm really considering transitioning which really won''t be transitioning with
the BKTs....LOL

I definitely got that swang going on

I'm the "Workout and sweats in her hair girl" I think I was going to long between BKTs knowing that I wear mine off at the roots much faster than the average person. I just did my first wash after my BKT and my roots are very loose, after letting the Global 4% rest for the 72 hours as recommended. I'm going to BKT again in 3 weeks at the roots only and do that for a while until I build up a good layer that can withstand the sweat. My mistake was that I was letting it wear off and then I started to have a little shedding because of the line of demarcation issue.

I will keep you all updated on my experiment!!

 

[Natural Glow]

Sheba1, Cutenss or AJJ - do you guys DC with BKT'd hair? I've been WNG since I did my BKT on Sunday night (yes, I have nice hanging waves not like the normal shrunk-up WNG I get from my thirsty hair!) I want to flat Iron tonight (for a length check) but I'd like to treat my hair first. Do you guys to moisture treatments since BKT is a protein?

Thanks,
jayjay

I still DC. I usually only DC when I'm going to straighten or do a flexi rod set though. I actually DC'd with Silicon Mix the other day and I loved it

I can't wait to get my Dreamhair ....

Me either. And I haven't even ordered yet

 

[Muse]

idk what i did wrong but my hair feels horrible after my btk treatment. simply terrible.

What was your process? Did you clarify first? Did you apply too little treatment? Too much? Flat iron on what temp?

My hair didn't feel super silky either and from the ladies here I learned that it was most likely because I used my flat iron on 410 instead of the recommended 450. I'm sure the pros will chime in if you give them more detail.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

idk what i did wrong but my hair feels horrible after my btk treatment. simply terrible.

What was your process? Did you clarify first? Did you apply too little treatment? Too much? Flat iron on what temp?

My hair didn't feel super silky either and from the ladies here I learned that it was most likely because I used my flat iron on 410 instead of the recommended 450. I'm sure the pros will chime in if you give them more detail.

To piggy back Muse's post we need more detail from you Aegis to find out what may have gone wrong.

1) Hair Type: Are you natural or processed in any way (relaxer, perm color, etc)

2) Hair Condition: What condition was your hair in before you did the BKT? Dry, healthy, how was your ends? How was your protein moisture balance?

3) Product & Method: What type of BKT product did you use, what type of flat iron did you use and at what temp. Did you clarify?

Describe how you applied the BKT step by step and give us the details of the problems you are experiencing. (Coated feeling hair, breakage?, etc)

We shoud be able to help you trouble shoot if you give us this information.

 

[Dove56]

VJ!!! Absolutely beautiful girl!!! I think we have a similar hair type. Your hair is just like my goal hair... shape and everything!

Yes I tried those Coppola Products too and they went right back to folica... that vanilla bean conditioner was just a'ight for me.. I could just use something I had in inventory.

I can't believe you paid $175!!! You do your own hair great!!!

Anyway; I say "yay" for you.... but I want you to try Dreamhair because I KNOW you will think it is the business.

Thanks FAB. Let's just say those clowns will not be getting $175 from ever again. I should give the Dreamhair a try I love your results and Cuteness too! Okay, dang, I'll try it..lol. Dreamhair will be my next BKT. I plan on doing another one in Dec or Jan.

 

[Dove56]

I'm natural since July 2004

Cuteness,

I love your hair lady, your results are beautiful . How does your hair hold up in humdity after you straighten? Can you take a look at my locked Fotki and look at my curly hair when it was natural and tell me how you think it would respond in humdity?

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Sheba, you need a thread dedicated to your awesomeness. You are ALWAYS right on time to help Someone through Something....{{{BIGggg HUGggg}}} for you, girlie. Really. Truly.

 

[sheba1]

Thanks FAB. Let's just say those clowns will not be getting $175 from ever again. I should give the Dreamhair a try I love your results and Cuteness too! Okay, dang, I'll try it..lol. Dreamhair will be my next BKT. I plan on doing another one in Dec or Jan.

Dreamhair catches another one. It got me, too, Veejee. I don't even know when I plan to BKT again... and I have a big ole bottle of Dreamhair just chillin in the cabinet . Is it just me or are PJs naturally attracted to BKT?

All I know is there are some beautiful, hot, hot, hot, gorgeous heads of hair using BKT. Good to be here, ladies. I know my hair is bound to get there hanging with this crowd

Sheba, you need a thread dedicated to your awesomeness. You are ALWAYS right on time to help Someone through Something....{{{BIGggg HUGggg}}} for you, girlie. Really. Truly.

Oh my goodness, Bronze!! Stop that :blush3: I just try to pay it forward because I messaged people I'd never even encountered and asked a million and one BKT questions. And they patiently answered every one of them.

Oh ladies!! My girlfriend is a straight natural and I've been dying to get her to let me BKT her hair. She's recovering from some stress related shedding and breakage she experienced a couple years back. Well today she told me that there was a hair magazine she was reading that recommended BKT for natural hair!! The magazine article stated that straight naturals would experience less reversion and could better battle damage from the heat used in the straight naturals reggie. Cool huh? She didn't know what mag it was but it was one she read at her Grandmother's salon.

 

[aegis]

To piggy back Muse's post we need more detail from you Aegis to find out what may have gone wrong.

1) Hair Type: Are you natural or processed in any way (relaxer, perm color, etc)

2) Hair Condition: What condition was your hair in before you did the BKT? Dry, healthy, how was your ends? How was your protein moisture balance?

3) Product & Method: What type of BKT product did you use, what type of flat iron did you use and at what temp. Did you clarify?

Describe how you applied the BKT step by step and give us the details of the problems you are experiencing. (Coated feeling hair, breakage?, etc)

We shoud be able to help you trouble shoot if you give us this information.

I am a 4b natural. I have noticed that my curl is slightly looser and softer that is a plus.

My hair feels hard and is breaking like crazy! My hair condition... my hair always LOOKS healthy but i know it tells a different story. I have crazy split ends even though i rarely (as in 2 times in the past 10 months use heat--i got scared after suffering MASSIVE heat damage last year and started learning about my hair. I usually just wear my hair in twists or braids under a wig. wash once a week and DC once a week, moisturize everyday.

I got my BTK done professionally. I didn't trust myself the first time. She used Marcia Teixtera (sp?). She clarified my hair. Blow Dryed. Applied product. Flatironed.

My hair just feels so hard. I might have used too must protein yesterday. I used that chi shampoo (infra) that is supposed to protect you from heat damage and then i did a bs dc with protein, and then applied heat protectant and blowdried and flat ironed. But before I used the heat I noticed my hair felt weird.


Right now I just washed, did a ACV rinse, and I am dc-ing with pantene (i know i shouldnt have bc it has sodium..whatever) but it's the only pure moisture dc i have, and added wild growth oil, glycerine, salt, honey, olive oil, and castor oil, to try to infuse some moisture into my hair.

 

[sheba1]

Aegis, I'm so sorry you're having trouble. Ok, so I'm not sure how your hair is but I always have to follow my protein DCs up with moisture. Just because I BKT now this is no difference. So that's the first thing that I'd attribute the hardness to. Immediately before and after my BKT I make sure I'm moistured up.

I really like your moisture mix for tonight. Would have preferred something super moisturizing like GVP conditioning balm or the like but looks like you've improvised. I think you'll see immediate improvement.

I don't think you need to worry so much about sodium chloride in products until you regain your natural balance but I'd probably skip adding salt to the conditioner unless you've decided to actively strip the treatment. Which I don't think I'd do unless I'd given a shot at correcting whatever went wrong.

 

[cutenss]

Cuteness,

I love your hair lady, your results are beautiful . How does your hair hold up in humdity after you straighten? Can you take a look at my locked Fotki and look at my curly hair when it was natural and tell me how you think it would respond in humdity?

Hey Veejee, I am at work, so I will look tomorrow when I get home, and give you my humble opinion. I have looked at your fotki, more than once (I'm a stan), and from what I can remember, you should not get revision, after using the Dreamhair. Aren't you texlaxed? Have you had revision since doing BKT? But your hair looks so beautiful, always. So silky and shiny. Even your NG

 

[aegis]

salt strips the treatment?! oh yeah! omg...what was i thinking?! i feel like a dummy! ugh. well i am blowdrying my hair with a comb now and i still have breakage. it's small ends that look damaged. idk.....my hair feels A LOT better though after that dc. im going to do another BTK is 5 weeks.

does it matter that I didnt wait the full 4 days? i couldn't do it.

 

[Blessed2bless]

Sheba, you need a thread dedicated to your awesomeness. You are ALWAYS right on time to help Someone through Something....{{{BIGggg HUGggg}}} for you, girlie. Really. Truly.

I totally agree!

 

[Stella B.]

Hi ladies! Been BKT'd now for about 2 weeks, so I'm way overdue with the pics like I promised. Here's my BKT journey highlights in pics and a few words:

I clarified with Bioextratus and Giovanni 50/50. The Bioextratus clarifying poo made my hair hard.

Applied the Zene BKT treatment. I used 2 and a half ounces for my whole head, and used my fingers to apply. Let it sit for 15 minutes, then went under the dryer, instead of using the blow dryer

Time to flat iron. I used a Chi nano set at 325 degrees. I know, I know. Breaking all the rules, but my hair did get straight. It came out like a soft press

Wait 48 hrs. and do nothing. This was the hard part. My hair was covered for two days

Finally, I washed it out with Giovanni Root 66 shampoo. It's SLS and sodium chloride free.

Rollerset, and here's my final results

Few more pics

My hair yesterday. Getting straighter each day! It just wants to fall and hang..

I'll be back with my reflections on how the BKT treatment went, my thoughts and plans for future BKT treatments in a later post. For now, I am really enjoying my softer, more manageable BKT hair...

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I learned a new workout / hair trick. This morning I did a resistance training workout, which casues me to seat less than cardion. I rolled the front of my hair with velcro rollers and tied a headband at my hairline. I rolled the first 3 rows. I worked out and then got ready for work. I took the rollers out and put on my 1/2 wig for the day. It came out pretty decent for a workout day!!


Pictures to follow

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Great job, Stella, great hair, too. Your rollerset came out delish. I like the color of your hair....