Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

I am currently trying to decide which bkt treatment I wanna get in February. Iam planning on buying a big bottle to last the year, and would have bought DH, but in support of my hair sisters, I will not. I am loking at Inoar as a replacement. Has anyone tried this brand? If not, what other brands have you found comparible to DH? I do want a brand with Formaldehyde, so softliss is out. What say you, sisters???

 

[Titansgirl]

Titansgirl, you better get it!!! Go gurl, your hair is looking fabulous!!!!

Thanks Sheba1, you know I only got caught up into this BKT thang because of all of your investigations.... Thanks for all the good info you have provided...

 

[Titansgirl]

Can you put anything on your hair after treatment? Or do i just have to wait till i wash for the first time? Thanks

Which BKT brand did you used?

Your hair came out excellent!! It looks so full!!!

 

[me-T]

bayareadream, totally OT but i love that shower curtain lol! i love anything with that pettern on it

 

[BayAreaDream]

bayareadream, totally OT but i love that shower curtain lol! i love anything with that pettern on it[/QUOTE

Thank you Me-T, I love patterns as well. I'm looking for some similar wall paper.

 

[BayAreaDream]

Can you put anything on your hair after treatment? Or do i just have to wait till i wash for the first time? Thanks

Which BKT brand did you used?

Your hair came out excellent!! It looks so full!!!

Thank you much, it came out better than I thought it would with very little shedding too. Your pictures are beautiful, your hair looks so healthy. I used the Dream Hair Treatment.

 

[leona2025]

How can you tell when the Bkt us wearing off?

 

[Dak]

How can you tell when the Bkt us wearing off?

Hair becomes less manageable; tangles more, reacts to the weather.

 

[mstar]

Not silly, at all, Mstar. I think your cone free products will be just fine, as long as you avoid salt (sodium chloride). BKT'd hair is easy; you'll see.

Thank you so much for all your help, Sheba. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.

I told her I didn't want the heat on the flat iron to the highest setting and she said that she doesn't turn the flat iron up that high because that's where the damage comes into play. She told me that she has had clients go to Beverly Hills to get the treatment done and they had heat damage due to the flat iron being on the highest setting .

I wonder if they were going to my new stylist. He's in Beverly Hills, and he told me he stopped doing BKTs 2 years ago because all his clients' hair was breaking off from it. That's why I'm so grateful to Sheba and AtlantaJJ for reminding me not to let them crank the iron up to 450...I bet a lot of stylists don't know that.

 

[Muse]

I am in LURVE with DH. I don't have pics because I don't have a USB for my camera and they didn't have one at Wally world but my hair is so silky skrait..lol. When I rollerset my hair tonight my roots were straight like I had relaxed. I really don't see me using a BKT with less than 2% anymore.

My results are similar to Global 2% but my hair isn't as "heavy" and weighted down but it dries really fast just like it did with global. LOVE IT!~

Uh oh Veejee! Do you like it better than QOD Gold? Please say no, I'm trying to ween myself off of DH, lol. Please compare the two for me. Thanks!

 

[Muse]

I am currently trying to decide which bkt treatment I wanna get in February. Iam planning on buying a big bottle to last the year, and would have bought DH, but in support of my hair sisters, I will not. I am loking at Inoar as a replacement. Has anyone tried this brand? If not, what other brands have you found comparible to DH? I do want a brand with Formaldehyde, so softliss is out. What say you, sisters???

Hey there!

I am in the same spot: I want to buy a liter of treatment that is NOT DH. I have been trying to find reviews and ingredients for several different kinds. Also, like you, I have been looking at Inoar. I found the ingredients for it and didn't like them compared to other brands.

Ingredients: Glycerin, Cetrimonium Chloride, Stearyl Alcohol, C.I. 19140, C.I. 16035, Methylchloroisothiazolinone and Methylisothiazolinone, Keratin, Silica, Fragrance, Water and 0.2% Formaldehyde.

Doesn't look like the keratin is hydrolyzed.Therefore I don't know how well this keratin will penetrate the hair shaft. I think I'm going to go with QOD gold next and if I like it I'll stick with that one. Unfortunately we may have to try several different brands before finding the right one.

 

[Br*nzeb*mbsh~ll]

Just an update. I flatironed my hair two weeks ago and it's still going strong - this is through intense perspiration and humidity. I oil with JBCO or amla and use a couple of flexirods on the ends, scarf up and in the morning, fluff and go.

My hair looks great. I'm still working on thickening, but it's getting there. I may reapply Softliss in another month.

 

[Dove56]

Uh oh Veejee! Do you like it better than QOD Gold? Please say no, I'm trying to ween myself off of DH, lol. Please compare the two for me. Thanks!

Muse,

DH wins hands down! I hate those clowns are playing with the DH price cause that is a bomb product! No kanks in my wig!

 

[Ganjababy]

Anyone DC'ing overnight with BK'd hair? Or is this a bad idea?

TIA............

 

[sheba1]

^^^ I do; I actually do what I call the 24 hour DC. I cowash with a clarifying conditioner from Vo5, add my DC and oils and then wet bun. I leave the bun in until I cowash again the next day.

I miss Fab....

 

[NerdSauce]

Anyone DC'ing overnight with BK'd hair? Or is this a bad idea?

TIA............

I've been doing it. Seems to be the only way I see any kind of effect.

Actually, because my hair had issues even before bkt, I'm planning to strip it once my second sample gets here and then reapply after some serious dcing. I couldn't really quite figure out what was wrong with it,a dn I thought BKT would assuage the issue, but I guess I misdiagnosed it. BKT hasn't made it worse but it is kind of prolonging the recovery.

 

[foxee]

I co-washed for the second time after BKT and detangling was a breeze! My hair also air-dried in 1/4 of the time it usually takes. Overall I'm very pleased with my results.

 

[jayjaycurlz]

I miss Fab....

Where she at? I miss her too!

 

[jayjaycurlz]

Ladies, it on this weekend! My Softliss sample arrived today (thanks mccray689!) and it and my hair have a date on Saturday. I'm in the HYH and Wet Bun challenge and since I'm 20 weeks post now my NG is outta control. I've been using scarfs so my edges lay flat for my bun but it'd be nice to be able to easily detangle my hair after it's been BKT'd - I miss this feeling. Last BKT was October. I will also do a length check and no more heat until the next length check in April/May. Aiming for full APL in 20TEN y'all - wish me luck!

 

[mstar]

Part 1 of my BKT experience was interesting. I can't wait to see how it turns out tomorrow.

They used the Marcia Teixeira brand on me at the salon. I sat next to a very famous black actress who was also getting her first BKT, same brand. It's the 1-day formula, so they washed it immediately after the flat iron, and her hair came out bone straight, even though she's a 4b natural. Both she and I were shocked at the straight results on a first-time Type 4 natural. So I can't wait to see what happens to my hair...I wasn't counting on relaxer-straight results!

I opted to leave the treatment in overnight, and I will return tomorrow to get it rinsed and styled (I was happy to find that this is included in the price.)

My hair feels awful right now. Stiff, sticky, dull, can't even run my fingers through it. I couldn't get a decent photo, so I'll post again after the treatment is done.

 

[misscrystal]

I'm thinking of BKT-ing, but I have texlaxed hair + about 28 weeks of new growth.

My dream is to be able to use BKT on my ng instead of continuing to use relaxers, but I also don't want to damage my texlaxed hair since I already had to chop off most of my nearly APL-length hair last summer after my hair was irreparably damaged at a cut-rate braid shop. I can't take any more large cuts

I've read a few threads cautioning against using BKT treatments on texlaxed hair, but I've been inspired by members, like Brittanynic, and I'd like to try using BKT to grow out my damaged hair.

What should I do? Should I only BKT my ng? Will that cause issues with the line of demarcation? Or would it be okay to BKT my whole head (including the texlaxed portions)? Thanks in advance ladies.

 

[lilikoi]

I'm thinking of BKT-ing, but I have texlaxed hair + about 28 weeks of new growth.

My dream is to be able to use BKT on my ng instead of continuing to use relaxers, but I also don't want to damage my texlaxed hair since I already had to chop off most of my nearly APL-length hair last summer after my hair was irreparably damaged at a cut-rate braid shop. I can't take any more large cuts

I've read a few threads cautioning against using BKT treatments on texlaxed hair, but I've been inspired by members, like Brittanynic, and I'd like to try using BKT to grow out my damaged hair.

What should I do? Should I only BKT my ng? Will that cause issues with the line of demarcation? Or would it be okay to BKT my whole head (including the texlaxed portions)? Thanks in advance ladies.

I had a very bad BKT experience on my relaxed hair. I've lost about 2 inches , between dusting the ends and breakage, and my relaxed ends are really thin. However, I have not given up on BKT!


I have concluded that the damage was caused by the high heat used in the process (see my post on this thread, around page 221, I think). Since then, I've read multiple references to using a much lower heat setting on natural afro hair, let alone relaxed.

My plan is to do my next bkt when I have move new growth (My last relaxer was last october--I thought I was stretching but now I feel I'm transitioning). Specifically, I plan to :

1-apply to my whole head, get as close to the roots as possible, without touching scalp

2-Somehow do the roots first, at 410ºF or less (depending on how it feels--I can really tell when the treatment "sets" because the hair gets really soft)

3-Go over the rest of the hair at a much lower temp without attempting to "burn off" the excess treatment.

4-Pray that I don't cause further damage to the relaxed ends.


I know this method won't give be the pretty, shiny, swingy hair I achieved on my first try (in fact, I anticipate it might initially feel coated and look a little dull) but the real result are seen after the first wash, anyway. But I really believe this approach has potential. It would get the roots manageable (I don't expect them to be bone straight) and the relaxed ends would benefit from the protein treatment, even if it's not as long lasting as for the roots.

So, this is what I plan to do to my hair based on my previous experience. Whatever you decide to do, please, don't use 450ºF on your hair and please apply to your whole head even if you decide not to flat iron the rest of the hair. Good luck!

 

[lilikoi]

Part 1 of my BKT experience was interesting. I can't wait to see how it turns out tomorrow.

They used the Marcia Teixeira brand on me at the salon. I sat next to a very famous black actress who was also getting her first BKT, same brand. .

Come on!!! Please, do tell or, at least, give us some hints! (You didn't sign a non-disclosure agreement, did you?):wink2:

I'm also dying to see pics of your hair. Please post soon!

 

[mstar]

Come on!!! Please, do tell or, at least, give us some hints! (You didn't sign a non-disclosure agreement, did you?):wink2:

I'm also dying to see pics of your hair. Please post soon!

No non-diclosure agreement, but I would never violate her privacy like that...sorry. But I can say that her hair looked beautiful after the treatment, and I can't wait until I get her length.

Feeling very discouraged about my hair right now. It's so short and thin.

 

[Love Always]

Mstar, I pray that all is well with your hair since you're not done with the complete process yet. I love looking at your hair in your avatar . Quick question, what made you decide on the Marcia Teixeira brand?

Part 1 of my BKT experience was interesting. I can't wait to see how it turns out tomorrow.

They used the Marcia Teixeira brand on me at the salon. I sat next to a very famous black actress who was also getting her first BKT, same brand. It's the 1-day formula, so they washed it immediately after the flat iron, and her hair came out bone straight, even though she's a 4b natural. Both she and I were shocked at the straight results on a first-time Type 4 natural. So I can't wait to see what happens to my hair...I wasn't counting on relaxer-straight results!

I opted to leave the treatment in overnight, and I will return tomorrow to get it rinsed and styled (I was happy to find that this is included in the price.)

My hair feels awful right now. Stiff, sticky, dull, can't even run my fingers through it. I couldn't get a decent photo, so I'll post again after the treatment is done.

 

[mstar]

Mstar, I pray that all is well with your hair since you're not done with the complete process yet. I love looking at your hair in your avatar . Quick question, what made you decide on the Marcia Teixeira brand?

Aww, thank you so much, Nisha.
The avatar hair is no more. My setback and haircut in September have left me a little shorter than my starting length, and the breakage I experienced really thinned my ends out. I'm counting on BKT to help me get decent-looking hair by this summer.

The Kimble salon uses Marcia Teixeira, so that's what I got. I was nervous about it, until Dontspeakdefeat said that she thinks it's the best BKT brand. They also offered Copolla, but the negative experiences of some LHCF'ers led me to decline that service. (I told my stylist about DH and Softliss, and she said she'll look into testing those brands in the salon. The Marcia Teixeira fumes are AWFUL, so they're searching for alternatives.)

 

[sheba1]

Hey Misscrystal,

AtlantaJJ, *Fabulosity* and Veejee are all texlaxed BKT gurus. They use BKT to get bone straight results on the texlaxed hair and much help in blurring the line of demarcation (lessening breakage there) and allowing longer stretches. For each of those ladies, however, BKT has either spurred or is assisting in a transition to natural BKT'd hair.

I'm thinking of BKT-ing, but I have texlaxed hair + about 28 weeks of new growth.

My dream is to be able to use BKT on my ng instead of continuing to use relaxers, but I also don't want to damage my texlaxed hair since I already had to chop off most of my nearly APL-length hair last summer after my hair was irreparably damaged at a cut-rate braid shop. I can't take any more large cuts

I've read a few threads cautioning against using BKT treatments on texlaxed hair, but I've been inspired by members, like Brittanynic, and I'd like to try using BKT to grow out my damaged hair.

What should I do? Should I only BKT my ng? Will that cause issues with the line of demarcation? Or would it be okay to BKT my whole head (including the texlaxed portions)? Thanks in advance ladies.

 

[Dove56]

I'm thinking of BKT-ing, but I have texlaxed hair + about 28 weeks of new growth.

My dream is to be able to use BKT on my ng instead of continuing to use relaxers, but I also don't want to damage my texlaxed hair since I already had to chop off most of my nearly APL-length hair last summer after my hair was irreparably damaged at a cut-rate braid shop. I can't take any more large cuts

I've read a few threads cautioning against using BKT treatments on texlaxed hair, but I've been inspired by members, like Brittanynic, and I'd like to try using BKT to grow out my damaged hair.

What should I do? Should I only BKT my ng? Will that cause issues with the line of demarcation? Or would it be okay to BKT my whole head (including the texlaxed portions)? Thanks in advance ladies.

Misscrystal,

I didn't have any issues using a BKT on my texlaxed hair. I did experience breakage on some hair I had bleached (doubled processed and only about 30% of my hair - highlights) but it's not anything anyone else would notice. The BKT made my texlaxed hair bone straight and that's what I wanted at the time without the risk of bone straight relaxing.

Now I'm about 7 months post and I'm transitioning back to my natural hair because my BKT is holding up so well even through workouts! I love it! I don't plan to relax anymore. My rollerset even came out bone straight at the roots just like i had a relaxer. I LOVE BKT !

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Has anyone tried the Encanto brand on ebay?

I have been looking at this one, too!

 

[mstar]

I'm still kinda in shock over my hair...I was expecting to get a texture kinda like Sheba's wash-n-go, but instead I got a much looser, blow-dry look.

After the rinse, it looked like a texlax...still curly, but very loose compared to my 4a/b afro. My hair was hanging down instead of sticking up, LOL. For the blowdry, the paddle brush just glided through my hair like butta. It felt all super-soft and silky after the blowdry, too! Soft like petting a kitten.

I forgot to take my camera. These are really crappy camera phone photos:

1) My pre-BKT natural hair, no product
2) After the rinse (I no longer have an afro, LOL...it's pretty straight)
3) Half of my head is blowdried, and the other half is still damp...it looks kind of like loose waves

My hair is short, layered, and damaged. I didn't take a picture of it after we flat ironed, but it felt light as air, and SO silky soft. Next pic is a photo of my pressed hair last week--this is basically what it looked like today after the flat iron:

4) Flat ironed hair

We weren't happy with the look (short, thin, damaged hair isn't exactly cute), so....we added clip-in extensions. I was amazed at how well the BKT hair blended with the extensions! So here is my final look:

5) Clip-in extensions on BKT'd hair

I'm happy.