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Anyone else not care about cones, mineral oil, petroleum, etc?

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I check the ingredients just know what is in them and make sure they have ingredients that I know would work or be good for my hair, or the type of product it is (ex. water based vs oil based moisturizers). The only ingredient I avoid is petroleum. All other ingredients for the most part are fair game because they haven't negatively affected my hair, my hair is thriving and in the best condition it has ever been in.
 
HoneyDew said:
I don't care at all!

I don't really like to use products that call themselves moisturizers and all they have is mineral oil and petroleum and no water or humectents.

But, I pretty much use whatever my hair likes, even if it has any of those ingredients.

yep!! me too.

I am sorry but my hair loves cones..without it my hair would be a tangled mess!! B/C of my cone usage I just clarify more and this seems to be fine with my hair.

My hair doesn't like mineral oil b/c it makes my hair stiff.. but I can tolerate petroleum/petrolatum if it is further down on the ingredients list and as long as my moisturizer is water based. I am not a lover of the mineral oil but if the product works for my hair..then I wouldn't hate it!
 
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I could care less about cones. And if a product has mineral oil or petroleum towards the end of the ingredient list, I'll still get it. If it's one of the first ingredients, I'll PROBABLY not get it :)
 
WillyGWifey said:
This may help you about mineral oil:eek:

"No propylene glycol, mineral oil, or sodium laureth sulfate. Make sure your shampoos, conditioners, moisturizers, soaps, lotions, and creams do not contain these deadly poisonous chemicals." (Trudeau 111)

6. Mineral Oil - Petroleum by-product that coats the skin like plastic, clogging the pores. Interferes with skin's ability to eliminate toxins, promoting acne and other disorders. Slows down skin function and cell development, resulting in premature aging. Used in many products (baby oil is 100% mineral oil!) Any mineral oil derivative can be contaminated with cancer causing PAH's (Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons). Manufacturers use petroleum because it is unbelievably cheap. (THELIFETREE)

That's not exactly true. When I began my biz in B&B I had to do alot of research and found that most negative facts you hear about mineral oil are from cosmetic companies or other private companies trying to up-play their products. If you goto the library and read Cosmetic Journals or any Government based book(or any natural based book) on natural products you will find mineral oil is one of the most natural products you can find and does exactly what is was naturally made to do. For me-I like to research for myself to know what's best for me and also what works for some may not work for others but anyway here's something that may help to bring more understanding:

Cosmetics-grade mineral oil and petrolatum are considered the safest, most nonirritating moisturizing ingredients ever found (Sources: Cosmetics & Toiletries, January 2001, page 79; Cosmetic Dermatology, September 2000, pages 44–46). Yes, they can keep air off the skin to some extent, but that's what a good antioxidant is supposed to do; they don't suffocate skin! Moreover, petrolatum and mineral oil are known for being efficacious in wound healing, and are also considered to be among the most effective moisturizing ingredients available (Source: Cosmetics & Toiletries, February 1998, pages 33–40).

Petroleum is a natural product taken from within the earth. Its ability to sit on the skin for hours without absorption provides a long-lasting protective coat that is superior to other plant or animal-derived oils. It is this protective-coat that makes petrolatum such an effective moisturizer. Also, mineral oil and petrolatum do not harbor or feed bacteria. They do not decompose or rot quickly, so moisturizers that use these ingredients require fewer preservatives. Mineral oil and petrolatum do not irritate the skin - making it an ideal moisturizer for sensitive or delicate skin. There is a singificantly greater chance of experiencing an allergic reaction or irritation with plant-based oils, and plant oil can often contain sturated fats that can solidify and clog pores. Mineral oil does not solidify.

Another myth perpetuated by all-natural cosmetic companies is the idea that occlusive ingredients suffocate the skin, trapping toxins and preventing oxygen from reaching the skin. First of all, toxins are realeased out of the body via sweat glands. Use of an occlusive moisturizing agent such as mineral oil does not hinder the body's ability to sweat. One major concern with this philosophy is that the skin is the body's largest defense against the absorption of toxins. The lipid barrier in the epidermis plays a large role in the skin's ability to keep out foreign substances. If the skin is dry, that means the lipid barrier is not performing at its optimum level. It can be due to a temporary change in extrnal conditions or due to medications, or due to genes. Whatever the reason, the skin needs an intact lipid barrier to perform its functions. Occlusive ingredients act as temporary lipid barriers for the skin - preventing water-loss and preventing the penetration and absorption of environmental substances. Avoiding otherwise effecive occlusive agents and using possibly less effect, more natural-sounding, ingredients in its place can result in poorly hydrated skin, a state which prevents the skin from performing its tasks at an optimum level.
 
some of y'all are very lucky. I have no choice but to check the ingredient list. I have some skin rashes that are oogly after using certain things. EVOO and mineral oil just makes my hair hard and brittle.

and I STILL can't use Avenda nothing:mad: :mad:

(I bought the sap moss shampoo...*sigh*)


-A
 
Chronic cone and sulfate user checking in.

I do not care what is in my products at all. As long as it smells good, looks pretty, and I want it , I'll get it. I only look at ingredient list to compare it to another to make sure I'm not getting the same thing in a different color or bottle.

I've never really understood the whole avoid one ingredient thing. All the ingredients make the product what it is, so I don't get singling out one. I know that if MO is 3rd on the ingredient list, it will have make a product have a different effect than if it's 13th on the list, but that still doesn't change the fact that it's in the product.
 
I don't mind mineral oil/cones/petroleum in products that I will wash or rinse out of my hair. (Shampoo & Conditioners) But, I don't like to use any products that I intend to apply & leave on my scalp (Oils, Pomades, Grease, etc.), to contain those three ingredients.
 
Mainly my DC have all the "bad stuff" in them, but hey my hair loves them and has gotten sooo much thicker and healthier using them. I judge first by smell and then once I use it if it leaves my hair soft, moisturizes, shiney and filled w/body I'm all for it. Now my scalp is another issue, but the length of my hair loves the bad stuff, and I'm sticking w/what works :p .
 
None of my products have mineral oil or petroleum in them. I just don't usually see that in the stuff I want to use, so it's not an issue. Cones, I do not like. I condition wash several times a week and if I use cones my hair ends up feeling like plastic or getting really dried out. I would use them if they worked, though.

In general I like to use the natural stuff as much as possible. When I first committed to that it was hard to find the right products. I felt like I couldn't use ANYTHING. That time has long passed though and I have found stuff that works well.

The only thing I use that has an ingredient on my no-no list is Aveda Sap Moss shampoo. I just absolutely couldn't find a replacement for that, but fortunately I mostly cowash and use shampoo just once a week or once every couple of weeks, depending.
 
I never read ingredients, but I'm aware of organic and natural products now. I'm not saavy enough to know what the ingredients mean, and I'm sure I'd care if I did...unless it was clearly something I didn't want on my hair or skin!
 
Nope! I'm not overly concerned about certain ingredients, as long as a product works for my hair I'm a happy camper! :p
 
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I say use what works...I've learned my lesson by throwing away good products by listening to Cathy Howse 'don't use products that contains alcohol" Luckily, I found LHCF and now know that all alcohol is not bad like Cetyl and Cetearyl Alcohol.

I found an intersting article that says mineral oil is not bad in hair / cosmetic products. It has been a myth for decades.
http://www.choice.com.au/viewarticleasonepage.aspx?id=104191&catId=100285&tid=100008&p=1
 
I don't use any products that contain mineral oil/petroleum because my hair has definitely benefited from not using them. As far as cones I really don't care...it's too much hassle trying to find products that don't contain them.
 
I check my ingredients for a few reasons. There are many shampoos with detergents that I consider too harsh for my hair. Shampoo and the surfactants in it can do a lot of damage to your cuticle. Consequently I avoid SLS 'poos and only use SLES, ALS or gentler 'poos.

I also check to see if something has protein in it, and what kind and how high it is on the list, so I know how to use it in my regimen. I check my moisturizers to be sure that water is the first ingredient and to see what humectants it has in it.

I don't avoid -cones, my hair adores them!:D The only product I use that has mineral oil in it/high up on the list is Dabur Amla Oil, and I never apply that to my scalp.

Reading my ingredients and finding out what all the stuff in it does has led to very little surprises in my regimen even when I decide to branch out and try new products. When I do try out new products I already have a good sense of whether they will work in my hair or not since I've done my research and know what my hair needs in a product. It also makes it very easy to make up my own batches of pre-poos, diluted shampoo concoctions or super charged deep treatments. Reading my ingredients has given me a great understanding of my hair' particular likes and dislikes, and most importantly, WHY. :yep:
 
mrsmeredith said:
That's not exactly true. When I began my biz in B&B I had to do alot of research and found that most negative facts you hear about mineral oil are from cosmetic companies or other private companies trying to up-play their products. If you goto the library and read Cosmetic Journals or any Government based book(or any natural based book) on natural products you will find mineral oil is one of the most natural products you can find and does exactly what is was naturally made to do. For me-I like to research for myself to know what's best for me and also what works for some may not work for others but anyway here's something that may help to bring more understanding:

Cosmetics-grade mineral oil and petrolatum are considered the safest, most nonirritating moisturizing ingredients ever found (Sources: Cosmetics & Toiletries, January 2001, page 79; Cosmetic Dermatology, September 2000, pages 44–46). Yes, they can keep air off the skin to some extent, but that's what a good antioxidant is supposed to do; they don't suffocate skin! Moreover, petrolatum and mineral oil are known for being efficacious in wound healing, and are also considered to be among the most effective moisturizing ingredients available (Source: Cosmetics & Toiletries, February 1998, pages 33–40).

Petroleum is a natural product taken from within the earth. Its ability to sit on the skin for hours without absorption provides a long-lasting protective coat that is superior to other plant or animal-derived oils. It is this protective-coat that makes petrolatum such an effective moisturizer. Also, mineral oil and petrolatum do not harbor or feed bacteria. They do not decompose or rot quickly, so moisturizers that use these ingredients require fewer preservatives. Mineral oil and petrolatum do not irritate the skin - making it an ideal moisturizer for sensitive or delicate skin. There is a singificantly greater chance of experiencing an allergic reaction or irritation with plant-based oils, and plant oil can often contain sturated fats that can solidify and clog pores. Mineral oil does not solidify.

Another myth perpetuated by all-natural cosmetic companies is the idea that occlusive ingredients suffocate the skin, trapping toxins and preventing oxygen from reaching the skin. First of all, toxins are realeased out of the body via sweat glands. Use of an occlusive moisturizing agent such as mineral oil does not hinder the body's ability to sweat. One major concern with this philosophy is that the skin is the body's largest defense against the absorption of toxins. The lipid barrier in the epidermis plays a large role in the skin's ability to keep out foreign substances. If the skin is dry, that means the lipid barrier is not performing at its optimum level. It can be due to a temporary change in extrnal conditions or due to medications, or due to genes. Whatever the reason, the skin needs an intact lipid barrier to perform its functions. Occlusive ingredients act as temporary lipid barriers for the skin - preventing water-loss and preventing the penetration and absorption of environmental substances. Avoiding otherwise effecive occlusive agents and using possibly less effect, more natural-sounding, ingredients in its place can result in poorly hydrated skin, a state which prevents the skin from performing its tasks at an optimum level.

I would just like to point out that the beneficiaries of continued use of mineral or petroleum based cosmetic products are big oil companies. Everyone likes to accuse Aveda of perpetrating a myth that mineral oil is bad for your skin, but when it comes right down to it, I would trust Aveda more than Big Oil any day. Its influence extends right into the government and government run studies. I love that line that says petroleum comes from the earth, everything comes from the earth but by the time it comes out of an oil refinery there is nothing natural about it. Just something to think about.
 
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I have found some really good products which do contain mineral oil and/or petroleum. So I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water if a product has amazing ingriedients and then not use it because there is some m.o. or petroleum there too.
 
I'm starting to feel this way too. I still stay away from petroleum and greasing my scalp but, if it works and my hair still grows i don't care too much.
ORS olive oil contains mineral oil and Organics CON shampoo contains SLS, but i don't care because its my favorite shampoo now, its very moisturizing and gentle on my hair, so sometimes you just have to go with what works for you.
 
When I first joined the board, I would try to boycott mineral oil and cones because I heard that they were bad. But after trial and error, Ive found out that my hair actually likes these two ingredients a whole lot. :ohwell: So to answer the question--NOPE, I do not care about mineral oil or cones!:lol:
 
I don't care anymore. I like grease, mineral oil, and cones (to an extent). If it works, I use it. I've been pretty much using the same thing for three years though. I do check ingredients though :)

I try to stay away from conditioners with a cone as the second ingredient.
 
I care about the ingredients in certain things like for instance my moisturizer, oil, and leave-in's is something I use daily (and don't rinse out) so I prefer not to have bad ingredients (min.oil, petrolatum, cones) in them because I don't what them to block out needed moisture. Anything else like shampoo, conditioners, I don't care what's in that because it's getting washed out. Lately I've been using a serum on my hair to rollerset with and I think that will have to stop because I don't want to risk blocking out moisture and getting breakage.
 
I don't mind mineral oil, but I have found that my hair likes a cone-free routine better. My hair was dryer when styling with cones, so I am better off without them or using them very rarely. The conditioners I am using right now have mineral oil in them, but they are so rich and creamy and make my hair so soft that I really don't mind. Everything over here has mineral oil and cones, because they aren't that hip to the all-natural/organic hair product thing yet. So, I just roll with what works for me.
 
I try and stay away from them as much as possible. I have the most hair (please please full brastrap) that I have ever had in my life. Due to texlaxing and relaxing every 4-5 months it's the thickest it's ever been too. Natural butters and oils contains fatty essential oils, vitamins and minerals. Some even have sunscreen properties. You won't get that with petroleum! I'll stick with natural as much as possible.
 
Although I prefer products without cones, mineral oil and petroleum, as long as it gives me the results I desire I will gladly use them no matter what the ingredients.
 
If my hair is fully moisturized, I will seal with any of those products.
I can't use them by themselves. I Clarify often to remove the possible build up.
 
I care because some ingredients don't work well for me. I avoid products with mineral oil high in the ingredient list and try not to use products with any petroleum at all. I care about cones but some products with cones work for me, some don't.
 
Nope, I don't really care. What concerns me is products that I am ALLERGIC too like Lanolin and Parabens. :eek:

I like mineral oil --it doesn't bother me and makes my hair soft.
 
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