GROW YOUR HAIR LONG WITH DEEP CONDITIONING CHALLENGE 2008 - PART 2

[Aggie]

Thx Aggie. I was hoping alphogee was in the mix...i wanted to try it but not w/o any recommendations though. so if i was to use this do you think i should use my baking soda,acv,n lemon to strip my hair of hard water build up b4 using the protein? i'm thinking about start back using bought water again b/c the water over yonder is harsh on my dome. btw, i'm cow everyday...missed yesterday n today but i'll bb on it tommorow tho.

I know what you mean about the hard water. I just bought 2 sprite shower filters (HOC models). They are extremely good and to my understanding, they are the best out there right now. Yes you may go ahead and clarify, especially if you haven't done so in a while. I usually only clarify my hair every 3-4 weeks.

 

[moonglowdiva]

d/c yesterday used Ion reconstructor treatment mixed with oils. Sat under dryer for God only knows exactly how long. I meant to set the timer but I forget. So I'll estimate about 45 minutes Remoisturized with CON Nourish. I looked for a pic to post yesterday. I didn't have a decent one but i will post one.

 

[DivaD04]

ok cool. tommorow is dc day 4 me.

 

[Mandy4610]

DCed today. Prepoo with affirm 5 in 1 and then DCed with Mizani moisturefuse. Hair feels good.

 

[Anashja]

I have no pic... to "breakage damaged shy" to show anyone... but I did my first DC on May 2nd - 30 minutes under dryer...and then I ended up cleaning the house so about 45 minutes for DC (15 min w/o heat) I used Nadia's Fortifying Masque w/ Oyin Juice and Berries leave in. I'm DC'ing tonight..probably will just do Garnier Strengthening Mud Masque (first time to try it) w/ Coco Oil on top...

 

[JustKiya]

ya'll i think i need to add a protein co to my mane. I have been using a mix of my thermasilk moisture, cmp, acv, spp...but i was wondering what do ya'll think when it comes to a 4b'er...what kind of protein should i get? I don't want to o.d. on moisture...all though it keeps my scalp from being tender anyone have any suggestions? i'll have to make purchases over the net so going to the store out here will be a womp womp womp

I think O'Ding on moisture, esp. for a natural, is MUCH easier to fix than going overboard on protein is, so I always suggest a very light protein treatment - and done no more than once a month. I don't have any product suggestions, as I usually make 'homemade' protein treats....

Thx Aggie. I was hoping alphogee was in the mix...i wanted to try it but not w/o any recommendations though. so if i was to use this do you think i should use my baking soda,acv,n lemon to strip my hair of hard water build up b4 using the protein? i'm thinking about start back using bought water again b/c the water over yonder is harsh on my dome. btw, i'm cow everyday...missed yesterday n today but i'll bb on it tommorow tho.

Oooh, hard water sucks - do you ahve any citric acid? It acts as a chelator, and would be a pretty straightforward (and simple) way to strip off the hardwater buildup before hand.

 

[Guapa1]

Good thread, not sure if I'm joining this as I might have my hair in cornrows for the a month from this week, but I do need to baby my ends. What to do?

Good luck everyone.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I found some Elasta QP DPR-11 today, I remembered a place that would likely carry it. Yesterday I DC'd with Jason Biotin conditioner mixed with honey / olive oil / and safflower oil. I shampooed with Jason Biotin with baking soda..my hair squeeked it was so clean .

I then used my aloe / rosewater spray / Giovanni Direct leave-in / sealed with Vatika oil and put Mega-Tek on my scalp. That sounds like a lot, but it wasn't so bad...

 

[tycoles]

tycoles, the reason why your hair seems hard is because you are deep conditioning with a protein conditioner however mild it is, it is still a protein conditioner and by what I understand, you are not following it up with a moisturizing conditioner, am I correct?

Well my suggestion is go out and look for a moisturizing deep conditioner and give the protein a rest for a couple of weeks for now. Try the Pantene R/N hair conditioning mask in the brown jar - that's an excellent choice and it's not expensive either. I like that one but I also like Kenra moisturizing conditioner and Mizani moisturefuse. Many of us here like Queen Helene cholesterol as well. You may also try Nexxus humectress, Nexxus humectin, Keracare humecto (in the tub), and Biolage ultra-conditioning balm, these are just a few of the ones you can start looking for.

I know for sure, you will also have to use more water-based moisturizer on your hair ends, sealed with an oil of your choice and maybe even baggy 2 or 3 nights a week until your hair's moisture level is restored and it doesn't feel so hard anymore, okay? HHG.

Thanks for the advice. Do you know if Elast DPR-11 is a protein? I have some of that and used it for my second dc tonight. My is still a little hard but feels much better. Especially after baggying. I will probably pick up some of the mizani conditioner next week.

 

[Aggie]

I have no pic... to "breakage damaged shy" to show anyone... but I did my first DC on May 2nd - 30 minutes under dryer...and then I ended up cleaning the house so about 45 minutes for DC (15 min w/o heat) I used Nadia's Fortifying Masque w/ Oyin Juice and Berries leave in. I'm DC'ing tonight..probably will just do Garnier Strengthening Mud Masque (first time to try it) w/ Coco Oil on top...

Anashja, we are all about comraderie here, please share your pic so that when you get where you want to be, we can celebrate your successes with you. Don't go it alone honey. We will support your efforts, okay? So come on....you can do it.....share.

 

[Aggie]

I think O'Ding on moisture, esp. for a natural, is MUCH easier to fix than going overboard on protein is, so I always suggest a very light protein treatment - and done no more than once a month. I don't have any product suggestions, as I usually make 'homemade' protein treats....





Oooh, hard water sucks - do you ahve any citric acid? It acts as a chelator, and would be a pretty straightforward (and simple) way to strip off the hardwater buildup before hand.

I just bought some of this and it already arrived in the mail too as I don't always wash my hair in the shower, so I bought it for when I wash my hair in the sink.

 

[Aggie]

Good thread, not sure if I'm joining this as I might have my hair in cornrows for the a month from this week, but I do need to baby my ends. What to do?

Good luck everyone.

Well Guapa1, the challenge won't end until the end of the year so if you want to join when you take down your cornrows, you welcomed to at that time.

 

[Aggie]

Thanks for the advice. Do you know if Elast DPR-11 is a protein? I have some of that and used it for my second dc tonight. My is still a little hard but feels much better. Especially after baggying. I will probably pick up some of the mizani conditioner next week.

No it isn't a protein conditioner so that one is fine.

 

[Lavendar]

Had a great overnight protein DC....Aphogee intensive reconstructor mixed with aloe vera gel and Hairveda Methi Sativa. Immediately took the mushy feel away from too many overnight moisturizing DC. Hair feels strong and thick, but soft. It seems to have curbed some of the breakage from over conditioning as well. I was really skimping on the protein...ladies remember to throw in the protein. I am resolving to do every 3rd DC as a protein condish.

 

[gymfreak336]

I washed with red clover CON and deep conditioned with CB Smoothe Reconstructor.

 

[MonaLisa]

Overnight...this is more than okay.

 

[Mrs. Verde]

So here's my update. I DC'd on Tuesday (4/29 - a little early), Thursday (5/1) and Sunday (5/4). It's hard for me to stay under the dryer for 30 mins. Each time I only lasted 20 mins, but I slept with the DC in overnight.

 

[25Nona]

Hi Ladies,

Here is my update. Tonight I did my second DC, did one on 5/1 and did the second tonight. Since starting the forum, I suffered a slight set back (one night I did a ACV and lemon juice rinse and something went wrong) and for the last month or so my hair just hasn't been right. Since then I've experience a great deal of breakage and had to trim up my ends a bit because I was starting to see a W form in the back, so I'm hoping that this challenge will put me back on track. I've noticed when I wash my hair and it's wet, it feels like its stripped (guess that is the right way to describe it), and I don't know what to do to cure it.

Any Hoo, I started my DC'd with massaging Neem oil on my scalp, and Biolage conditioning balm with a heating cap for about 30 min. I then washed twice with KeraCare hydrating shampoo, then DC'd again with KeraCare Humecto mixed with EVOO for another 40 min under the heating cap. The end result is that my hair feels light and really nice after my saran wrap, but when it was wet and I was doing my roller set I had the same straw feeling. As far as my leave in goes I use Lacio Lacio with SAA and Glycerin added and Organix anti breakage serum, after my hair is set, I add Lozione drops on the scalp and then sit under the dryer. I just purchased some Porosity control conditioner (thanks Tiffers) off of ebay and I will begin to mix it in with my DC and hopefully this will help.

I'm 7 wks post and am scheduled to relax next week, but I'm going to put it off because the new growth isn't that bad, so I'm going to hold off a bit and try to get my hair back in shape.

(tried posting my starting pic but was having an issue with size so I will try again later).

 

[Twisties]

This weekend I DC'd with Aubrey Organics GPB on dry hair for 15 minutes w/heat, and 15 minutes without.

Then washed with my Nioxin and used the Scalp Therapy for 5 minutes.

Applied IC Heat Serum, Plaited and air dried, Flat ironed and curled.

 

[miami74]

Had a great overnight protein DC....Aphogee intensive reconstructor mixed with aloe vera gel and Hairveda Methi Sativa. Immediately took the mushy feel away from too many overnight moisturizing DC. Hair feels strong and thick, but soft. It seems to have curbed some of the breakage from over conditioning as well. I was really skimping on the protein...ladies remember to throw in the protein. I am resolving to do every 3rd DC as a protein condish.

Good idea! Thanks.

 

[MrsWatson]

Hey all,

I DC'd overnight with an ORS replenishing Pack. Woke up this morning and rinsed and co washed with a cheapie V05 conditioner. My hair looks and feels absolutely MARVELOUS! DCing overnight might have to become part of my weekly routine!

 

[joyandfaith]

I DC'd overnight with Aphogee Intensive 2 min reconstructor and co-washed this morning with Redken All-Soft. I was scared to do it overnight after reading some threads yesterday where people said it made their hair feel like mush, but it worked wonderfully for me. I also noticed much less shedding.

Question: Is the Aphogee 2 min reconstructor a protein treatment? If so, how often should I do protein. Thanks.

 

[Aggie]

So here's my update. I DC'd on Tuesday (4/29 - a little early), Thursday (5/1) and Sunday (5/4). It's hard for me to stay under the dryer for 30 mins. Each time I only lasted 20 mins, but I slept with the DC in overnight.

Wow, Mrs. V, you're on a roll.

 

[Aggie]

I DC'd overnight with Aphogee Intensive 2 min reconstructor and co-washed this morning with Redken All-Soft. I was scared to do it overnight after reading some threads yesterday where people said it made their hair feel like mush, but it worked wonderfully for me. I also noticed much less shedding.

Question: Is the Aphogee 2 min reconstructor a protein treatment? If so, how often should I do protein. Thanks.

Yes it is a protein, but it's a mild one, however, it should be used no more than once a week or once every 2-3 weeks depending on your hair's need for it. I wouldn't do an overnight DC treatment with a protein conditioner though. It is very easy to overload on protein and very hard to normalize the hair once this happens. My recommendation is to condition with protein for about 30 minutes and then DC with a moisturizing deep conditioner afterwards for another 30 minutes to an hour. HTH

 

[ImFree27]

i'm dc'ing tonight with neutrogena deep conditioner, sulfur, hot six oil with ginsing, I think i'm sleep in it because I'm tierd and wash in the moring, I also did a scalp scrub with brown sugar and v05 conditioner

 

[JerriBlank]

Okay so i'm in braids right.
So i take down like,three braids to see what the result of my new mix will be like.
I used a Cabot protein pack($.50 at Big lots), some elasta qp dr-11,and some Venetian Blends.

I'm in love y'all

I need to get me some alter ego nequal condish with linseed oil,because that's why i bought the Venetian Blends(for the linseed oil),but i get more value from the alter ego.
My hair is soooooo soft right now!
This mix will def be in my staple stuff from now on

 

[DivaD04]

i don't have any citric acid...i could look into that tho and i just ordered some Aphogee 2 minute keratin reconstructor last night or i think the other night from one of aggie's suggestions. i've been adding silk peptide powder to my co and coconut milk power...if i read correctly somewhere it said that spp has a lil protein in...ehhh right??? well i'm plan to add the aphogee to my dc's once a week and i'm thinking, well, yeah i'm thinking a protein treatment once a month.
okay cough up a homemade recipe! if thats easier than me ordering online and then pay for double shipping, i'm game.

I think O'Ding on moisture, esp. for a natural, is MUCH easier to fix than going overboard on protein is, so I always suggest a very light protein treatment - and done no more than once a month. I don't have any product suggestions, as I usually make 'homemade' protein treats....

Oooh, hard water sucks - do you ahve any citric acid? It acts as a chelator, and would be a pretty straightforward (and simple) way to strip off the hardwater buildup before hand.

 

[clever]

DC'd last night with tigi

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Okay so i'm in braids right.
So i take down like,three braids to see what the result of my new mix will be like.
I used a Cabot protein pack($.50 at Big lots), some elasta qp dr-11,and some Venetian Blends.

I'm in love y'all

I need to get me some alter ego nequal condish with linseed oil,because that's why i bought the Venetian Blends(for the linseed oil),but i get more value from the alter ego.
My hair is soooooo soft right now!
This mix will def be in my staple stuff from now on

Isn't Linseed oil the same as Flax seed oil? If so I think I'll put a spoon full in some conditioner that I have. I've been eyeballing that in the fridge and thinking of trying it in a deep conditioner. It's good for the insides, it should be good for the hair on the outside too

 

[Anashja]

I missed my opportunity the other day to DC. So I made up last night and did an overnight DC. First I washed w/ Garnier Melting Conditioner - 5 minutes. Then I got some Avocado Conditioner (Shescentit) and Coco Oil, left in over night...rinsed this morning, than I had to run out for errands... no time to dry so it was an air dry day...by the time I was done from Walmart, Picture drop off and haircuts for the boys...I had to come home and mow my lawn... did that... probably sweated out half of the conditioner... jumped into the shower (AAAAHHHHH), scrubbed for an exfoliation from the grit and grim ... rinsed my hair and put in a leave in conditioner of Juice & Berries (Oyin)...fell asleep and just woke up not too long ago to get ready for my exam tonight in contract law...but my hair sure does feel nice...hehe. Nxt DC expected for Friday night...