HE hello hydration as a deep conditioner??

[Victoria44]

Lately i've been alternating between HE hello hydration and ORS deep-penetrating replenishing conditioner as my deep conditioner, but how do i know if either of these are really deep conditioners?

i've noticed that a lot of people use types of hair mayonaises and those tubs labeled "cholestorol..."

do i have to invest in one of these, or a conditioner ACTUALLY labeled "deep conditioner" for me to get an optimal deep condition??

btw, when i deep condition with hello hydration/ORS replenishing i go under the head dryer for 30-45 minutes, OR i wrap my head in a towel for 2-3 hours

 

[sensi sweetie]

To my understanding a rinse out conditioner can never be a deep conditioner regardless of how long you leave it on/heat it/etc. Reason being, the molecules are too large to penetrate the hair shaft like a deep conditioner would.

So essentially leaving a regular conditioner on as a deep conditioner would reap the same results as only leaving it in for those 3 minutes instructed on the bottle. Once it penetrates to its full capacity, thats it. It will not continue to penetrate any deeper.

So yes, I would invest in an actual deep conditioner. But again, this is just to my understanding. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[RubyWoo]

The ORS Replenishing conditioner is a deep conditioner. The HE Hello Hydration is not.

 

[Victoria44]

wow! i've wasted so much time

 

[chrisanddonniesmommy]

wow! i've wasted so much time

It's okay. Don't be so hard on yourself. It's a live and learn type thing. I love HE HH as a rinse-out for my cowashes; but, I'd never use it as a dc. I wish you much success on your transition!

 

[sensi sweetie]

wow! i've wasted so much time

No worries. This is a mistake that I think most of us made as beginners

 

[smwrigh3]

Plus HE HH is a GREAT conditioner so you werent doing any harm to yourself!

 

[Sherbetcane]

Why don't you use the mask instead of the conditioner? I loved the mask better than the conditioner when i was natural....

 

[bride91501]

In the "Ask a WL Lady" thread, one of the vets (sorry, I forgot her name!) suggested that folks use a regular condish as a DC. In fact, this practice is a permanent part of her reggie, and she has gorgeous hair. God I wish I could remember her name!

As a 4b'er, mastering the moisture retention game is vital to my length retention, so I deep condition weekly, FAITHFULLY, and I sometimes use rinse out condishes (HH included) as my DC. I think I've finally gotten on top of my hair's moisture needs while doing this, so I really don't think it makes much of a difference. Also, I do sometimes use regular DCs, and honestly, I can't tell much of a difference.

Just my experience. HTH.

 

[HennaRo]

Why don't you use the mask instead of the conditioner? I loved the mask better than the conditioner when i was natural....

I've never seen this in the stores, it's not even on their website.

Plus a ton of women use regular conditioners and add honey, honeyquat, ayurvedic powders and whatever else, leave it on and it basically does the same thing as a "real" deep conditioner. I know I've done it and it's come out better that a premade one.

 

[sensi sweetie]

I've never seen this in the stores, it's not even on their website.

I was thinking the same thing

 

[Victoria44]

In the "Ask a WL Lady" thread, one of the vets (sorry, I forgot her name!) suggested that folks use a regular condish as a DC. In fact, this practice is a permanent part of her reggie, and she has gorgeous hair. God I wish I could remember her name!

As a 4b'er, mastering the moisture retention game is vital to my length retention, so I deep condition weekly, FAITHFULLY, and I sometimes use rinse out condishes (HH included) as my DC. I think I've finally gotten on top of my hair's moisture needs while doing this, so I really don't think it makes much of a difference. Also, I do sometimes use regular DCs, and honestly, I can't tell much of a difference.

Just my experience. HTH.

I can't tell the difference either when i alternate between my rinse out and my deep conditioner

I've never seen this in the stores, it's not even on their website.

Plus a ton of women use regular conditioners and add honey, honeyquat, ayurvedic powders and whatever else, leave it on and it basically does the same thing as a "real" deep conditioner. I know I've done it and it's come out better that a premade one.

Thanks! I was thinking about adding EVCO and honey to it

 

[LaFemmeNaturelle]

If it's working for your hair then continue using it. If your hair feels great and you are making progress then why stop?....but I may be biased since I don't believe in "deep conditioning".

FOTM Boing Boing says she uses HEHH to DC

 

[Americka]

Why don't you use the mask instead of the conditioner? I loved the mask better than the conditioner when i was natural....

I've never seen this in the stores, it's not even on their website.

Plus a ton of women use regular conditioners and add honey, honeyquat, ayurvedic powders and whatever else, leave it on and it basically does the same thing as a "real" deep conditioner. I know I've done it and it's come out better that a premade one.

I don't think the mask is sold in the United States. When I did a Google search, only the UK and Middle East (Arabia) came up. I have never seen it in my neck of the US.

 

[CherryCherryBoomBoom]

I've definitely seen this mask selling in stores. It must most definitely be a country thing then, since I know the product range of Herbal Essences vary slightly in the UK from the USA.

It is one of those masks that direct you to only use for 5 minutes though, so I'm not sure how different it really is to the instant conditioner and whether you're missing much. Though, I haven't personally tried it yet, so I wouldn't really know.

 

[MsBoinglicious]

LOL I use Hello Hydration as a deep conditioner But I add melted down Shea Butter and oil to it and Whip it up. I sit under my hooded dryer for 15-30 minutes.

I never had a problem with it! Been using it like that for over a year now. I love it! I guess everyones hair is different.

 

[C(squared)]

I was wondering about this...the HE HH gives awesome slip and it smells great. I don't mind using this when I co-wash; however, when I straighten my hair, I like to kick up the deep conditioning. Thanks for the info!