Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[Diamond75]

Yes, it has started to revert. I'm just about at the 8-week point, and my hair is looking better to me; as in, it's less straight. The glossiness is not there anymore, but my strands are still noticeably thicker (MUCH thicker), and my hair still dries really quickly. Also, I haven't suffered any additional heat damage, so the treatment is obviously still protecting my strands.

I'm about to post an overly long update, LOL...hopefully that will explain a little more.

NOW I remember you saying that about the Advance product...lol..

This is good information to know. I purchased a sample of the Chocolate formula, but after reading the thread and the training manual, I was a little worried. I don't want to lose my curl forever, I just want to relax it a bit and wear my hair straight. After hearing that your hair is starting to revert, I am a little hopeful that I may not lose my curl pattern.

I plan on doing my BKT tomorrow...

 

[casey3035]

Has anyone mixed BKT into their weekly/monthly conditioner? I am asking because to my understanding BKT or quaternium is in alot of shampoos on the market. I'm no chemist and I am not suggesting anyone do this-I am just simply asking has anyone done this before themselves?TIA

 

[foxee]

Has anyone mixed BKT into their weekly/monthly conditioner? I am asking because to my understanding BKT or quaternium is in alot of shampoos on the market. I'm no chemist and I am not suggesting anyone do this-I am just simply asking has anyone done this before themselves?TIA

I haven't, but some of the members here have mixed pure keratin and conditioner with positive results.

 

[Minty]

did my first BKT w/QOD gold this afternoon with great results. I'm 3 months post and hoping to transition.

Because this is the only product I have experience with on my own (stylist used Rejuvenol in the salon) my first impression is that its a pretty decent product. I got the product before my new flatiron and was too impatient to wait so I used my old one with great results.

I was very light handed with product, and there were little fumes. (i had three fans going and cross ventilation w/one fan in the window)

I love the results but this day one so we'll see how it goes. feel free to PM me if you want pics (ladies only).

give me tips if you have them -

 

[Ediese]

Thanks MissBossy for breaking it down like that. I LOVED the visuals.

Thanks Mstar for that note. I'm a 4a natural too, and I found a salon in Houston that offers the Marcia treatment. I was planning to go there this summer. I definitely don't want to lose my curls, so thanks for the heads up!

 

[cutenss]

Yup JJ now I see. You are right it feels way more protected than DH. I did hear that QOD Max sucked. I wonder why. I think Cuteness used QOD Max and didn't like it.

Cuteness is it true? Did you use it? If so what didn't you like about it?

OK, I am sooooo late with this response, but here it goes. QOD MAX did not agree with my hair. I don't know if it is because my strands are fine, or what. But it sucked!!! My hair just never accepted it. My hair loves OK Keratin, DH, and now my new love Marcia T. QOD coated my hair in a bad way . It frizzed up, was dull and stiff. I was a hot mess on my birthday using this crap. NEVER AGAIN! The Marcia T that I won was the chocolate flavor My hair loves it. I also recceived the teflon tape with my prize, and to be honest, I could not tell the difference. And it did not take 10 passes for the MT. With the QOD Max, I could still be ironing, and it not make any difference.

One other thing, no matter what BKT I use, I never loose my curl pattern. My hair will always somewhat revert back. But that is okay. You can see in my siggy, I am 4 months post BKT. And I clarify my hair about twice a month. I use WEN on my MArcia T BKT hair. WEN and castor oil are my new permanent staples. I hope I answered the questions.

And feel free to PM if you want to know something specific. I am not in the hair section as much as I use to be.

I am about to post my Marcia T pics from when I did my hair this month.

 

[cutenss]

My prize / Hair before BKT​

Closeup texture shot / Clarified hair(dry) before BKT​

Hair with BKT product / side ponytail 4th day before wash​

ponytail before wash / hair after wash on 4th day, no product​

more texture shots / hair starting to dry​

Sorry I am not the best photographer.

 

[Lebiya]

Ok guys, So I will be BKT’in next week-end for SURE this time -(I Have chosen to bkt rather than texturize) This will be my first application on my natural 4z hair ( I do not have a curl pattern). This is what I plan tot do.

Friday night:
Henna …sleep w/ henna in

Saturday:

I will wash the henna out …I will not deep condition after the wash

I will then apply the bkt to my damp hair

Blowdry

Flat iron ( low heat …250-300 degrees - doing several passes) I DO NOT want straight hair per say


I am going to use Softliss OR simply smooth by American Culture - I will use one without formaldehyde.


Is this OK?????

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Ok guys, So I will be BKT’in next week-end for SURE this time -(I Have chosen to bkt rather than texturize) This will be my first application on my natural 4z hair ( I do not have a curl pattern). This is what I plan tot do.

Friday night:
Henna …sleep w/ henna in

Saturday:

I will wash the henna out …I will not deep condition after the wash

I will then apply the bkt to my damp hair

Blowdry

Flat iron ( low heat …250-300 degrees - doing several passes) I DO NOT want straight hair per say


I am going to use Softliss OR simply smooth by American Culture - I will use one without formaldehyde.


Is this OK?????

I wouldn't henna immediately prior to BKT. May prove to be too drying and you'll be risking breakage.

 

[Muse]

Ok guys, So I will be BKT’in next week-end for SURE this time -(I Have chosen to bkt rather than texturize) This will be my first application on my natural 4z hair ( I do not have a curl pattern). This is what I plan tot do.

Friday night:
Henna …sleep w/ henna in

Saturday:

I will wash the henna out …I will not deep condition after the wash

I will then apply the bkt to my damp hair

Blowdry

Flat iron ( low heat …250-300 degrees - doing several passes) I DO NOT want straight hair per say


I am going to use Softliss OR simply smooth by American Culture - I will use one without formaldehyde.


Is this OK?????

Also I know you don't want to loose your curl but I don't know if you'll be sealing anything at 300 degrees. At that temp it might be a waste. I would put it at least around 400. If you are a 4Z AND you plan on using formaldehyde free I don't think that you have to worry about loosing your curl.

 

[me-T]

Ok guys, So I will be BKT’in next week-end for SURE this time -(I Have chosen to bkt rather than texturize) This will be my first application on my natural 4z hair ( I do not have a curl pattern). This is what I plan tot do.

Friday night:
Henna …sleep w/ henna in

Saturday:

I will wash the henna out …I will not deep condition after the wash

I will then apply the bkt to my damp hair

Blowdry

Flat iron ( low heat …250-300 degrees - doing several passes) I DO NOT want straight hair per say


I am going to use Softliss OR simply smooth by American Culture - I will use one without formaldehyde.


Is this OK?????

since henna coats the hair, & you're doing a bkt right after, i'm not sure the bkt would bond correctly
not dc'ing after henna?
low temp? 300 is too low even for a continuous heat iron
once you wash, the straightness will be gone until you flat iron/blowdry
never heard of the american culture brand. is it kinda like that ulta one?

 

[Dak]

Yesterday I used the DreamHair accai sample I got back in September. I tweaked the shampooing a little bit, instead of just using the clarifying shampoo right away, I started with my Aveda Damage Remedy shampoo to detangle, brushed in the shower, then shampooed in two sections with clarifying shampoo, brushed again then put my hair into 2 double strand twists. I let it air dry a bit like that, then I blew it dry w/o using a brush. Much gentler on my hair.

This was my 3 BKT, first time with QOD Gold, second with Softliss, now this time with DreamHair. Comparing the three, next time I buy, I'm going back to QOD.


In case you've ever wondered the difference between using a flash vs no flash, here's a visual:

with flash

no flash

There was better movement with QOD Gold, my hair moved as one unit and didn't tangle as easily vs this:

On the plus side, I like the shine! I twisted my hair into a bun last night, which is why it's not bone straight this morning.

 

[Lebiya]

Thank you ladies for the advice!

I will now consider the Global Keratin Formaldehyde Free OR the 2%, Thanks!

 

[Dove56]

Yesterday I used the DreamHair accai sample I got back in September. I tweaked the shampooing a little bit, instead of just using the clarifying shampoo right away, I started with my Aveda Damage Remedy shampoo to detangle, brushed in the shower, then shampooed in two sections with clarifying shampoo, brushed again then put my hair into 2 double strand twists. I let it air dry a bit like that, then I blew it dry w/o using a brush. Much gentler on my hair.

This was my 3 BKT, first time with QOD Gold, second with Softliss, now this time with DreamHair. Comparing the three, next time I buy, I'm going back to QOD.


In case you've ever wondered the difference between using a flash vs no flash, here's a visual:

with flash

no flash

There was better movement with QOD Gold, my hair moved as one unit and didn't tangle as easily vs this:

On the plus side, I like the shine! I twisted my hair into a bun last night, which is why it's not bone straight this morning.

Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dove56]

Cuteness and Dak,

You both have beautiful hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cuteness,

I did the OK Keratin Treatment on my mom's hair (4a, silky, VERY, VERY fine) and it was beautiful (My phone takes crappy pics). Her hair is about 97% straight from OK Keratin. I can't wait to try it myself! Her hair felt very "protected" plus it was shiny and so smooth! I just lubs it!

Ladies, especially 3b/c textures, are you all getting bone straight results? QOD Max (except for the crown), Softliss, and DH ALL make my hair bone straight (I love it..lol). QOD makes my hair about 70% straighter. I will try OK Keratin and take pics this time (have to get another camera).

Dak, I am still speechless...

 

[leona2025]

I used the last of my sample of DH today. Im trying to decide what bkt to use next. I don't want sticky coated hair. I need to be able to wear it comfortably for a week because I only wash and dc on Saturdays. Here are my results. Im gonna get full thick wl this year!!! More Pics in my fotki.

 

[Muse]

Leona and Dak-Amazing hair ladies!

Dak I am with you on QOD Gold, that stuff is gold. I am going to try Marcia because I am becoming a hopeless BKT PJ but I am always going to keep the gold on hand in case Marcia doesn't work out. I thinking about doing what MissBossy did and do one side of my head with QOD (she did Global) and the other with Marcia to compare.

 

[Diamond75]

Well after looking at all your photos, I'm disappointed with how my Marcia BKT came out.
I didn't take many photos, and a little hopeful to see how my hair comes out once I do the first
wash.
I almost ran out of product towards the end, but I think I used too much anyway as my hair feels stiff
and full of product. Its fuller and I can see growth, which is a good thing, but my hair doesn't have instant
results. It is probably operator error and may try to get it done professionally next time, as the
Chocolate version is hard to come by.

My hair and ends aren't so full of frizz, so I'm happy. Boy this takes work, I've had thoughts lately
of going back to braids...

I will try to wait the 3 days before I wash my hair, but its so stiff.

 

[Muse]

Well after looking at all your photos, I'm disappointed with how my Marcia BKT came out.
I didn't take many photos, and a little hopeful to see how my hair comes out once I do the first
wash.
I almost ran out of product towards the end, but I think I used too much anyway as my hair feels stiff
and full of product. Its fuller and I can see growth, which is a good thing, but my hair doesn't have instant
results. It is probably operator error and may try to get it done professionally next time, as the
Chocolate version is hard to come by.

My hair and ends aren't so full of frizz, so I'm happy. Boy this takes work, I've had thoughts lately
of going back to braids...

I will try to wait the 3 days before I wash my hair, but its so stiff.

Was this your first time applying? If so for most people it takes a couple times to get it right, to get the technique down. How many ounces did you use?

 

[MyAngelEyez~C~U]

Well after looking at all your photos, I'm disappointed with how my Marcia BKT came out.
I didn't take many photos, and a little hopeful to see how my hair comes out once I do the first
wash.
I almost ran out of product towards the end, but I think I used too much anyway as my hair feels stiff
and full of product. Its fuller and I can see growth, which is a good thing, but my hair doesn't have instant
results. It is probably operator error and may try to get it done professionally next time, as the
Chocolate version is hard to come by.

My hair and ends aren't so full of frizz, so I'm happy. Boy this takes work, I've had thoughts lately
of going back to braids...

I will try to wait the 3 days before I wash my hair, but its so stiff.

My daughter's hair was like that, too. I think it was because I used too much product. So I will use a lighter hand next time. Her hair was fine after we washed it though.

 

[me-T]

did my first wash yesterday.

the good-i was almost done with my hair before i realized how much easier the detangling was! i got done so quick compared to dh. it's like texlaxed hair for real now

the bad- even after steaming, washing with a moisturizing poo, then co-washing, my hair felt like crap. you know how your hair feels after you clarify and maybe used a lil too much poo? yeah.

the ugly- even after moisturizing, & sealing w/ my newfound holy grails, it still feels so dry. i used a lot of the products on wet hair which usually results in a gummy heavy mess. i think drying my hair so much before i applied really did a number on me

 

[Dak]

Veejee, my texture is very similar to yours and Cuteness, so yes, it's pretty straight when it's flat ironed but curls come back when wet, though softer. (except my bangs, but those are more affected by the heat of the flat iron I use on them) The last time I BKT'd was in August, towards the last month I started using regular shampoos again and I'd say 85 to 90% of it had wore off.

My hair is very porous and it felt as though the QOD felt like it blended/melded better into my hair than DreamHair or Softliss.

This thread is so great, I'm probably just as good as any licensed stylist, just from what I've learned here. The info MissBossy posted was great!

Leona, your hair is so pretty! I love the color, the red, how do you do that? You are going to hit waist length by summer!

Diamond, I hear you about this thing taking time, I kept putting it off, because its darn near an all day affair! I hope you'll be happier with your hair once you wash it.

Thank you, Muse!

 

[Minty]

Ok, so I rinsed the QOD GOLD yesterday (no shampoo) and I love, love it. This little baby may help me ride this relaxer on out after all! I could comb my wet new growth with a fine tooth comb - whaaat!. No hair in the comb. I am dealing with over processed ends, so I will be ovation/moisturizing ends/bunning without exception for the next 6 months.

Oh, the hair is very very soft. the ng is not dry as it normally would be. I'm pleased.

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

4th BKT done today...

It was the easiest blowdry and flatiron... used my mom's 1875 watt with a "comb attachment" and used the lightest amount of product possible (DH Acai... I'm out time to find another brand now)... and I applied it after I let my hair airdry... I blowdried for at least an hour to make sure the hair was dry and it was soft...

Flatironed with my sister's pink Sally's GVP on 410 and took my time going in little sections.
It literally took allllllll day... but my hair looks great and I've definitely retained length.

My before and after pics here

 

[dorko]

i never tried it
but i want to
..i need to go thru the thread and think about what i need to do next lol

 

[loveisnthehouse]

Does anyone know if Softliss straightens as much as the marcia advanced? I still have some softliss left, but I want the one that will straighten the best.

 

[MissMeWithThatIsh]

...Yea... I have the tiniest bit of QOD gold left.... I dunno if I should try to use it since it's so concentrated... bc I only used the smallest amount of DH and my results were the best ever...swang and movement, I can't WAIT to wash it out though

 

[Muse]

Does anyone know if Softliss straightens as much as the marcia advanced? I still have some softliss left, but I want the one that will straighten the best.

I have never used either but from the results I have heard of others Marcia will straighten better than Softliss. Hopefully those who have tried them will respond. Don't hear too much about Softliss anymore around here...

 

[Damaged but not out]

welllll i will be using my softliss in 20 minutes. Hopefully i can wait till my SO gets home so he can take step by step pics for me.

 

[LoveLongLocks]

Question - 3 b's 3c's, it this loosening your curl pattern "a-lot"?????

I am interested in doing this, but do not want to loose my curl pattern or healthy hair, what has been your experience?