Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[biancaelyse]

@biancaelyse Your daughters hair looks really pretty & healthy..Good job...When the treatment where's off,does it begin to break? Looking for something outside of a perm for my Mom..Thanks.


Happy Hair Growing!

Hi Lita !!

My kids have had no damage or breakage at all. In fact, they are both retaining more length than ever. My kids have never had relaxed hair and after 2 years of Keratin treatments, they still have very, very thick and healthy hair. They do not straighten their hair in between Keratin treatments. The Keratin mainly reduces the frizz so that they can wear their hair curly without getting as much shrinkage and bushiness.

 

[Lita]

biancaelyse Hi! Thank you..Will pass the info to her.

Happy Hair Growing!

 

[mochamommie]

Napp You have tried alot of these treatments...what would you recommend for someone who is on a budget to get the most bang for their buck? The DE is too expensive for me. I am talking up $60 or is that even possible? I am natural, 4A..thanks

 

[Napp]

@Napp You have tried alot of these treatments...what would you recommend for someone who is on a budget to get the most bang for their buck? The DE is too expensive for me. I am talking up $60 or is that even possible? I am natural, 4A..thanks

mochamommie what are you looking for the keratin treatment to do for you? do you want something with or without formaldehyde? how much product do you want?(trial size or enough for multiple applications)

I am on a budget too so I know what you mean! I can't afford no $150 treatment

 

[mochamommie]

Napp Thanks for replying, I am looking for sleeker blow outs. If the treatment could reduce frizz and create smoothness for my textured styles that would be a plus. I am not scared of curl loosing—I don’t generally wear wash n goes.
I am thinking I may have to get a trial size—if I want the good stuff but something that could get multiple applications would be preferable. I would like something without formaldehyde.

 

[Napp]

Here are a list of some of the formaldehyde free keratin treatments online for less than $60

I havent tried any of these however so I cant vouch for any of them

Efelex 2oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140894261469?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

efelex 4 oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140894260813?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

La brasiliana mocha zero 4oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310355671788?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

La brasiliana spruzzi zero 4oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330859901045?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

La brasiliana zero 4 oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331012983621?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Alfaparf lisse design 2 oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300974762369?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Keragreen 16 oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121180285932?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

California smooth 8 oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221286997813?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Simply smooth 4oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251316405434?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

BBCOS keratin treatment 4 oz
http://www.kristalbeautysf.com/BBCO...poo-And-Treatment-BBCOSKSST.htm?categoryId=-1

Easy keratin 8 oz
http://www.amazon.com/LISIM-Smooth-...1380208202&sr=1-79&keywords=keratin+treatment

Chi Enviro 2 oz
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chi-Enviro-...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item25820a558c

Rio bamboo keratin treatment 4oz
http://www.amazon.com/Brazilian-Ker...8&qid=1380380950&sr=1-20&keywords=rio+keratin

 

[MystiqueBabe]

Anyone here try the Renpure organics 14 day straight? I doubt it lasts for 14 days...

 

[Dove56]

Hi Ladies.

I just wanted to add that I have been doing the QOD Organiq Keratin treatments on my kids for 2 years now and their hair has thrived. One daughter is about 2B/C with tailbone length hair (see my siggy) and the other is 3B/C with hip length hair.

They have zero heat damage and their hair reverts back every time, mainly because I am very conservative with the heat.

I buy the liter and apply every 3-4 months as it wears off.

I love Design Essentials but I went back to QOD Organiq last week It is better than DE for rollersets. DE is awesome for when I use my Instyler which I will do I the warmer months.

So QOD Organiq in the Fall/Winter and DE Spring/Summer and I can keep my curls AND have straight hair. Perfect Combo.

 

[Napp]

Dove56 do you have the sample size of the qod?

 

[Dove56]

Dove56 do you have the sample size of the qod?

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[tapioca_pudding]

Dove56 How you gonna get us all hype of DE then jump ship?!?!? jkjk!

 

[Napp]

LOL tapioca_pudding

If the DE is like any of the bkt alternatives ive tried, I prefer BKT's

 

[mochamommie]

Napp....thanks so much for the information. I will research and make a decision.

I went and got a blow out and I asked my stylist about keratin treatments. She said she has not found one that she truly likes--she said she has found them to be drying and some clients have lost/uneven curl pattern. I knew by reading this thread those issues were not uncommon. She still offers them for clients that request them but did not recommend one for me--hmmm, surprising...maybe she doesn't want me doing my own blow outs, lol.....

 

[tapioca_pudding]

Napp this is my first go round with the DE product; I'm only a week in so far. I haven't decided how I feel about it yet. After 6 weeks or so, I'll know if it's gonna go on the "to sell" list or the "to keep" list.

 

[Dove56]

Dove56 How you gonna get us all hype of DE then jump ship?!?!? jkjk!

tapioca_pudding

LOL! Girl, I started with QOD Organiq back in 2011. I love, love, love them both! I can just get a super smooth roller set with QOD and I typically rollerset in the cooler months when it isn't as hot outside! I will go back to Design Essentials in March (when it starts warming up in TX).

I will use them both forever just at different times of the year.

 

[tapioca_pudding]

Dove56 Ohhh I gotcha!! That makes perfect sense! I may do the same.. I may need to try this QOD I keep hearing about LOL.

 

[outspokenwallflower]

Any links where I can buy a sample/trial size of the QOD Organiq to try? Or links to the cheapest place to buy some?

Thanks!

 

[Napp]

Any links where I can buy a sample/trial size of the QOD Organiq to try? Or links to the cheapest place to buy some?

Thanks!

outspokenwallflower

here ya go

http://www.qodamerica.com/qod-max-organiq-shot-60ml.html

 

[ManeStreet]

I wasn't In love with QOD. I'm trying Soft-liss chocolate this week.

The application for the QOD organix was too difficult & my results were inconsistent & my results weren't impressive.

It took so many hours to do it & my hair ended up looking the exact same just s little smoother. I just wasn't worth it for me.

 

[Napp]

I think the new alternative stuff is good, I just did another arosci treatment and love the results.

But i just love the smooth and silky results i get with a keratin treatment. plus they last longer.

 

[Napp]

I wasn't In love with QOD. I'm trying Soft-liss chocolate this week.

The application for the QOD organix was too difficult & my results were consistent or impressive IMO.

Tell us how it goes! I agree qod isnt the greatest ive tried but it wasn't horrible either.

 

[ManeStreet]

Tell us how it goes! I agree qod isnt the greatest ive tried but it wasn't horrible either.

Yeah QOD was the first brand I've ever tried so I am going to try another see how it goes. If I don't like Soft-liss then I'm going to try Agave smoothing treatment.

 

[tapioca_pudding]

So Im feeling like I prefer a keratin treatment to the Design Essentials... I do like that the DE controls humidity but I find that it still takes forever to blowdry and flat iron, whereas with a keratin treatment it's a breeze. Thats one of my reasons for getting any of these treatments in the first place. So Im back on the research train trying to find a good keratin treatment that will provide the results I want. Sheesh. Lol.

 

[greight]

Have any of you just blow dried the keratin treatments and skipped the flat iron (for any product)? I'm not after bone straight, just manageability (no tangles). I feel blow dry might be trauma enough for me and my flat iron skills are a problem

 

[outspokenwallflower]

Sorry if this seems kinda lazy... anyone have suggestions or a list of salt and sulfate free shampoo's as well as paraben free conditioners so that I could maintain the treatment? What do you guys use?

Also, a good clarifying shampoo to use before the initial application? Can you use ANY clarifying shampoo out there?

 

[ManeStreet]

Sorry if this seems kinda lazy... anyone have suggestions or a list of salt and sulfate free shampoo's as well as paraben free conditioners so that I could maintain the treatment? What do you guys use?

Also, a good clarifying shampoo to use before the initial application? Can you use ANY clarifying shampoo out there?

I'm using this as my sulfate free shampoo & it's really good. It lathers just like a regular shampoo but its Very moisturizing & leaves my hair feeling great.

 

[Napp]

Have any of you just blow dried the keratin treatments and skipped the flat iron (for any product)? I'm not after bone straight, just manageability (no tangles). I feel blow dry might be trauma enough for me and my flat iron skills are a problem

greight

You can blow it in only but the results will be minimal. I just used the arosci restructuring serum where you only blow dry it in and the results only lasted about 4 washes for me.


I would say that most keratin treatments (especially formaldehyde free ones)eave you with a curl in your hair unless you are using something that specifically says it gives a high volume reduction.

If you are scared of loosing your curl look for a formula that is meant for fine and or curly hair. I would say to flat iron as the sealing step is important. Use a lower temperature and less passes to keep the curl integrity of your hair..

 

[greight]

greight

You can blow it in only but the results will be minimal. I just used the arosci restructuring serum where you only blow dry it in and the results only lasted about 4 washes for me.


I would say that most keratin treatments (especially formaldehyde free ones)eave you with a curl in your hair unless you are using something that specifically says it gives a high volume reduction.

If you are scared of loosing your curl look for a formula that is meant for fine and or curly hair. I would say to flat iron as the sealing step is important. Use a lower temperature and less passes to keep the curl integrity of your hair..

Thanks, Napp! Not afraid of losing my curl, but just trying it not go through so much manipulation I do have fine hair that's prone to knotting so I don't want to go through so much. Wash day is already a headache. But it seems like I must in order to get the full benefits!

I've been only washing my hair every two weeks, though so I may just kill a weekend to get it done

 

[outspokenwallflower]

I actually wound up going with the Agave treatment rather than the QOD. I like it so far, could tell a difference for sure... I want to see how it holds up after the first wash. If anyone has questions about this treatment, let me know!

Oh and it definitely lightens hair color... Over the past month and a half, I put in TWO BLUE BLACK DEMI PERMANENT rinses... now, for those who think-- well, duh, it was only a demi. Well demi has enough peroxide to penetrate the hair cuticle, and black is a color that sticks SO well to the hair shaft, that even a black semi permanent can last as long as a demi and a black demi as long as a permanent. The treatment has left my hair in a very dark reddish brown. You can tell it's not black although it's dark, and the reddish tint is only visible in the light.

 

[Kitamita]

I actually wound up going with the Agave treatment rather than the QOD. I like it so far, could tell a difference for sure... I want to see how it holds up after the first wash. If anyone has questions about this treatment, let me know!

Oh and it definitely lightens hair color... Over the past month and a half, I put in TWO BLUE BLACK DEMI PERMANENT rinses... now, for those who think-- well, duh, it was only a demi. Well demi has enough peroxide to penetrate the hair cuticle, and black is a color that sticks SO well to the hair shaft, that even a black semi permanent can last as long as a demi and a black demi as long as a permanent. The treatment has left my hair in a very dark reddish brown. You can tell it's not black although it's dark, and the reddish tint is only visible in the light.

outspokenwallflower: I never heard of this treatment. So interesting. Do you know what the active ingredient is? What difference did you notice about Agave vrs Keratin? Does it get your hair straight or is there still some wave? My hair is natural right now and I would like to keep my curls but tame it a little. Love to hear how it stands up after your wash. Sorry for the all the questions but inquiring minds want to know.