Keratin Treatment Support Thread

[AtlantaJJ]

Can you browse the profession section of Global's website w/o creating an account? I don't wanna do all that just to LOOK @ what they have.

ETA: Encanto looks interesting. 1.7%, same day formula.
Treatment Ingredients

WATER, HYDROLIZED KERATIN, POLYQUATERNIUM-7, GUAR HYDROXYPROPYLTRIMONIUM, HYDROLIZED WHEAT PROTEINS, WHEAT OLIGOSACCHARIDES, CHERRY BARK EXTRACT, CAMOMILE EXTRACT, NEUTRAL HENNA EXTRACT, SAGE OIL, TANGERINE OIL, GERANIUM OIL, FRAGRANCE, PEG-12 DIMETHICONE, AMINO ACID, ALDEHYDE, KERNEL EXTRACT.

What is this Encanto product of which you speak!! The ingredients sound divine! My hair loves anything with Cherry Bark anything in it. That's some kind of magical stuff. Henna extract too! I want to try this, these are quality ingredients!
I like that a polymer is the third ingredient that a heat protectectant.

Let me scroll back and see if I can find a link....

 

[Love Always]

Please post your results after you wash!

By the way, are you natural, relaxed? I just want to put your results into context. TIA.

I'm natural, I don't know my hair type but I will say that I have very wavy hair. I took some before pictures of my natural hair the day before I got the treatment done. So, I will definitely post pics after I wash.

My hair has never been blowy and swangy after a Global application. For me the magic is after the first wash. Your hair feels coated because it is coated; think of needing to over spackle before scraping the excess away. That's how a Global app is. You'll be back to rave after your first wash and the excess is in the drain.

OK, I'm definitely looking forward to washing my hair tomorrow. I've heard you rave so much about Global and the first wash so now I have something to look forward to tomorrow. Thank you so much for your input and support

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I thought I was the only one in this bunch that didn't think Dreamhair was better than Global. My hair did not like Dreamhair, it got it straight initally but I found over time it didn't do anything for the condition of my hair. As a matter of fact over time, I think I found it allowed heat damage to happen to my hair. That's just my opinion. I had to do a lot of protein treatments to get it back in check. Now I will be doing stricktly roots only BKTs from now on.

On another note, I just ordered that $179.00 Recession ceramic roots straightening tool from Ulta for $39.00 What the heck!

 

[girlyprincess23]

Hey there, MissCrystal, you can get it from their web site if you're willing to buy the large liter size. No license is necessary to do it this way; here's a link:

http://www.globalkeratin.com/component/finddistributor/?act=professional

Note that you have to go under the professional side to purchase the BKT.

However, if you want the 16.9 oz for $135 (I think that's the price I paid; but I paid quite a bit more for the clarifying shampoo and shipping) you have to provide a license number by phone. I bought this size and it afforded me one year's worth of BKT and I sold 3oz of it! I've done 4 treatments (with global) and I still have about a third of the bottle left.

Do you think if my friend ordered with my credit card and her license number it would be a problem?

 

[sheba1]

Do you think if my friend ordered with my credit card and her license number it would be a problem?

No, I don't think it would be a problem. To be safe, you should have it shipped to your friends' location also. And remember, if you decide to buy the large bottle off the site, you don't even need to do that; only for the small one.

 

[Muse]

Can you browse the profession section of Global's website w/o creating an account? I don't wanna do all that just to LOOK @ what they have.

ETA: Encanto looks interesting. 1.7%, same day formula.
Treatment Ingredients

WATER, HYDROLIZED KERATIN, POLYQUATERNIUM-7, GUAR HYDROXYPROPYLTRIMONIUM, HYDROLIZED WHEAT PROTEINS, WHEAT OLIGOSACCHARIDES, CHERRY BARK EXTRACT, CAMOMILE EXTRACT, NEUTRAL HENNA EXTRACT, SAGE OIL, TANGERINE OIL, GERANIUM OIL, FRAGRANCE, PEG-12 DIMETHICONE, AMINO ACID, ALDEHYDE, KERNEL EXTRACT.

You're right! I just took a look and the ingredients to all three of the products look great. They seem like a very open company and I like the fact that they are not the middle man but the actual company themselves selling to individuals. Also the fact that you get 8oz of poo, treatment, AND con for $48 is a steal!
I may go with them first. I still want to try QOD gold but boy is it expensive for how much you get. Is anyone going to order Encanto soon? I'd like to hear some reviews before I purchase.

 

[Muse]

I thought I was the only one in this bunch that didn't think Dreamhair was better than Global. My hair did not like Dreamhair, it got it straight initally but I found over time it didn't do anything for the condition of my hair. As a matter of fact over time, I think I found it allowed heat damage to happen to my hair. That's just my opinion. I had to do a lot of protein treatments to get it back in check. Now I will be doing stricktly roots only BKTs from now on.

On another note, I just ordered that $179.00 Recession ceramic roots straightening tool from Ulta for $39.00 What the heck!

Uh oh!! Looks like it's a good thing most of us are moving on. I know this may not happen to everyone but still...I don't want something that just makes my hair look good but eventually weakens it. I am looking for added strength and GREAT heat protection over the long haul.

So JJ, are you just going to stick with Global? That is the one that Brittany got her great results with and it sounds like it's working for you.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

Uh oh!! Looks like it's a good thing most of us are moving on. I know this may not happen to everyone but still...I don't want something that just makes my hair look good but eventually weakens it. I am looking for added strength and GREAT heat protection over the long haul.

So JJ, are you just going to stick with Global? That is the one that Brittany got her great results with and it sounds like it's working for you.

I'm not using the rest of my DH. I'm thinking about giving it away.

I'm sticking with Global for now and I am very interested in the new product mentioned by Eisani above because it contains a polymer(sp) POLYQUATERNIUM-7, I believe that is a heat protectant.

 

[naturalmanenyc]

Polyquaternium is used in deep penetrating conditioners


Deep Penetrating Conditioners
There are two main types of deep or penetrating conditioners; moisture and protein.

Protein based conditioners are designed to increase the diameter of the hair with a coating action. This will strengthen the hair and add body.

Hair that is severely damaged will need a concentrated protein conditioner. These conditioners are designed to pass through the cuticle, penetrate the cortex and replace keratin lost during chemical services. They are designed to equalize porosity, increase elasticity and improve overall appearance. Because the hair is filled with new keratin, it will feel hard after use and should be followed with a moisturizing conditioner to soften and lubricate the hair shaft. Concentrated protein are NOT recommended for use after a chemical treatment like a relaxer, color or perm. These conditioners will disrupt the desired rearrangement of protein bonds formed by these chemical services.

In addition, to protein based conditioners, there are moisturizing deep penetrating conditioners. These conditioners contain humectants that attract moisture and are absorbed into the hair cortex. The difference between instant and deep moisturizing conditioner is that deep treatments contain a quaternary ammonium component included in the chemical formulation of moisturizers so they are able to attach themselves to the hair fiber and provide longer lasting moisture.

Can you browse the profession section of Global's website w/o creating an account? I don't wanna do all that just to LOOK @ what they have.

ETA: Encanto looks interesting. 1.7%, same day formula.
Treatment Ingredients

WATER, HYDROLIZED KERATIN, POLYQUATERNIUM-7, GUAR HYDROXYPROPYLTRIMONIUM, HYDROLIZED WHEAT PROTEINS, WHEAT OLIGOSACCHARIDES, CHERRY BARK EXTRACT, CAMOMILE EXTRACT, NEUTRAL HENNA EXTRACT, SAGE OIL, TANGERINE OIL, GERANIUM OIL, FRAGRANCE, PEG-12 DIMETHICONE, AMINO ACID, ALDEHYDE, KERNEL EXTRACT.

 

[Oyekade]

is there a big difference between global 2% and 4%? or do they both perform the same way?

 

[sheba1]

is there a big difference between global 2% and 4%? or do they both perform the same way?

4% is twice as strong so the hair is left twice as straight for the temporary period. I've never used the 4% (only 2) but that's what I got as I listened to AtlantaJJ's experience about the 4% leaving her roots smoooooov!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

4% solution is supposed help the BKT take better on natural non chemically treated hairs such as my roots. It's difficult for the BKT to adhere to the cuticle of non-chemically treated hair, the effects do not last as long as it does for chemically treated hair.

That's why my roots keep blowing up I workout and sweat a lot too so that doesn't help matters!

 

[sheba1]

^^^ My 2% lasts quite some time, though, AJ, even while cowashing daily. Took over 3 months for my bkt to totally wear off.

 

[Love Always]

I washed my hair and it reverted back . It was very easy to wash out and my hair was smooth and soft when I was washing it out. I would say that the BKT took the bulkiness out of my hair and it's drying a lot faster. I finished washing my hair two hours ago and before the BKT my hair will still be soaking wet but now it's not. My sister took some pictures of my hair but I will have to post it on tomorrow because I'm about to leave. I'm glad that I did it and I like to see the progression of my hair over the next couple of months. I know the BKT gets better after each treatment so I'm looking forward to my next one...I'm already thinking about getting one in March with the 4% forumla .

 

[Jaffa]

I washed my hair and it reverted back . It was very easy to wash out and my hair was smooth and soft when I was washing it out. I would say that the BKT took the bulkiness out of my hair and it's drying a lot faster. I finished washing my hair two hours ago and before the BKT my hair will still be soaking wet but now it's not. My sister took some pictures of my hair but I will have to post it on tomorrow because I'm about to leave. I'm glad that I did it and I like to see the progression of my hair over the next couple of months. I know the BKT gets better after each treatment so I'm looking forward to my next one...I'm already thinking about getting one in March with the 4% forumla .

Hi Nisha619 - Your BKT experience sounds great and looking forward to seeing your pics

 

[Love Always]

My experience has been good so far, I'm in search for some good products right now. I'm having a really hard time loading pictures .

Hi Nisha619 - Your BKT experience sounds great and looking forward to seeing your pics

 

[AtlantaJJ]

^^^ My 2% lasts quite some time, though, AJ, even while cowashing daily. Took over 3 months for my bkt to totally wear off.

You did a perm color before you first treatment right? I'm thinking of doing that myself at some point since I'm not going to relax again. The color helps the cuticle hold the BKT longer.

 

[sheba1]

You did a perm color before you first treatment right? I'm thinking of doing that myself at some point since I'm not going to relax again. The color helps the cuticle hold the BKT longer.

Semi-perm, yep; but that was my first BKT only, back in May. All new growth since then is untreated with any type of color. I used the color to attempt to get a straighter result. Overall, I've used nothing stronger than 2% and my BKT tends to wear on the areas that were colored and the areas that are new growth at about the same rate.

I'm thinking it has more to do with the straightness factor, especially looking at Brittany's results, but I could be wrong.

 

[sheba1]

^^^ I just had an aha moment; it must have to do with straightness as the keep the curl formula is formaldehyde free

 

[precious-olivia]

I did the OK Keratin Treatment on the hair that is left out from my weave and I must say I loved the results. The fumes had my eyes watering, but nevertheless it was excellent. I can`t wait to try it on every strand of hair I have this coming April.

 

[MarieB]

I just wanted to say that I am still loving the BKT! It's winter, so I can't fully air dry like I do in the summer, but I did a 5-minute blow dry with a round brush today, and it is still silky-smooth, shiny, and healthy. BKT forever!

 

[girlyprincess23]

Does the BKT trap moisture in the hair? I was just wondering because my hair stays moisturized from week to week with the BKT whereas without it it's like it dries out midweek?

 

[MarieB]

I think it does, after a fashion, because my hair seems to stay pretty healthy and moisturized without using a ton of product. I've been on the same tube of NTM Smooth Shine Anti-Frizz Cream since sometime last spring...it'll probably be a completely different formula by the time I run out. I wash or co-wash about 3 times a week, and my hair is doing great.

 

[Diamond75]

Wow I finally read about 90% of this thread. I attempted to last week, but got a nasty virus from a fotki link, so I had to wipe my hard drive... anyway, I've had my first BKT done yesterday.

A little history, I've been wearing some form of braids since the fall of 06. Sometime in 07 I cut off most of my relaxed hair in an effort to make the braiding easier and just to let the chemical hair go. Treebraids were starting to do a little damage to my front hair line so I knew I needed to stop doing them, but didn't to go to relaxers. I came across this thread and it sounded like exactly what I was looking for. Because I've been in braids so long and needed my hair cut, I went to a professional to do my BKT. She was running a special and I wanted to see the process done in the salon, before I attempt to do it at home.

She used the Coppola brand and the process didn't seem all that bad. My hair was fine prior to braids and it was very thin after this treatment. I think I will have to have another treatment before I can really evaluate BKTs, being that the hair has been braided up.

I had the treatment done on Friday, and the info says to wait 72 hours before I can wash it, but I may not wait that long. I go back to her on Tuesday, because she thinks I'm waiting that long to wash it, but she wants to put a DC treatment on my hair to help it. Im not used to my hair being this thin, so I may have her put a few tracks in to get me through the first couple of weeks.

My hair is soft, smooth and silky... it just looks a mess...lol. Hopefully it will thicken up soon, at least by the summer time so I can do a wash-n-go thing.

THANK YOU ALL for the helpful info...

 

[me-T]

after seeing those Encanto ingredients & price, & what was said about DH not helping the health, i think i'm gonna throw the rest of my DH sample out and try EC.

 

[jayjaycurlz]

Here are my BKT results from last week. I used SoftLiss Strawberry. I'm texlaxed with 20 week NG at the time of this BKT.

1st pic - freshly was w/SoftLiss step 1
2nd pic - air dried, then SoftLiss BKT was applied
3rd pic - Flatironed, partially finished
4th pic - BKT was washed out after 1 hour and SoftLiss Mask applied and rinsed out
5th pic - fully flat ironed hair

 

[Diamond75]

How do you ladies keep your scalp moist? I used to use olive oil for my scalp or would let it sit on my hair prior to washing or CW, can I still do that with BKT?

 

[Beekay305]

Diamond, I use olive oil and jojoba oil to pre-poo all the time. My BKT was fine afterwards.

Does anyone only get their roots done? I am about to get my second BKT, but I only want my roots done. I don't want my curl pattern to be any looser on the previously applied sections. Also, did anyone have any shedding with BKT?

 

[Diamond75]

Diamond, I use olive oil and jojoba oil to pre-poo all the time. My BKT was fine afterwards.

Does anyone only get their roots done? I am about to get my second BKT, but I only want my roots done. I don't want my curl pattern to be any looser on the previously applied sections. Also, did anyone have any shedding with BKT?

Thank you!!!!

 

[mstar]

Does the BKT trap moisture in the hair? I was just wondering because my hair stays moisturized from week to week with the BKT whereas without it it's like it dries out midweek?

I've noticed that too. It's pretty incredible!

I haven't washed my hair yet...when I get my hair straightened, I usually wear it for 10 days, so wash day will be tomorrow. I've moisturized a few times, but my hair has not been dry, and it's still silky straight, smooth, and shiny. I'm amazed.