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sylver2 said:
this is funny because i finally viewed a Kimmaytube for the 1st time. i needed to find some natural info for my daughter. After viewing her hair i was confused on her hair type. i'm a 4 and my natural hair never hung like that. long or short. immediately shrinks when water touches it.So i came in to ask if anyone knew her hair type :lachen: laawd wasn't expecting an already long 'discussion' on hair typing.
Does your daughter have your same hair type? There are alota people you can send her: RusticBeauty, Sera, Mwedzi. You could also send Torridiana777 & longhairdontcare2011 (their hairtype isn't identical to ours but their methods work for our hair) and you can send her type 4 fotki's as well:yep:
 
Even though I'm not sure where I stand on my opinion of her hair type (I'm leaning towards 4a), we should remember that we can't necessarily conclusively type hair from before someone started taking care of it. Those were pics from when she admittedly didn't know how to properly care for her hair.
 
Does your daughter have your same hair type? There are alota people you can send her: RusticBeauty, Sera, Mwedzi. You could also send Torridiana777 & longhairdontcare2011 (their hairtype isn't identical to ours but their methods work for our hair) and you can send her type 4 fotki's as well:yep:

no! if she did it would be easy lol.
i think she is a fine haired 4a with 3c edges and 3c patches. but im still sending her their links..thanks.
 
As for Kimmay's hair it looks great! I do feel a way about this whole "Well she's not a REAL 4" business. Oh really?

Let me have come in here saying "What's my hair type? I think I'm a 3...whatchu guys think?" And posted these:
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My thread would have gifs of Aeries Spears bringing out that chair and slamming it down, popcorn being passed and lets not forget the DRANKS!:lachen:

Yes, she is a 4. If you saw that video in high quality that I snaggedthe pics fromm you'd see tiny coils! Yes, as her hair got longer, it stretched! As she upped her moisture, her curls started clumping more! It happens!! It's happened to many of us, it's happening to me! This dismissal of seeing long hair with some curl and automatically negating it from a 4 is annoying because imho, subconsciously it's like still saying "Well, you MUST be x hair type to get this. This type can't be that."

Now that my hair has some length and curl to it, suddenly it's not cause I'm caring for it! It's cause "oh, well you have that type of hair." Oh REALLY?! When were you saying that when I big chopped a year ago?! I was regular ole nappy nap!

are these 2 pics of the kimmaytube person? or you? sorry if this was answered. i never look at peoples youtubes :lol: only now quickly trying to find links for dd.
 
Hmm, I wasn't saying 3c is "made up" as in fake (I believe you are referring to my post)... If you read my original post, I said it was not a part of Andre's hair typing system--> the main one referred to on lhcf for hair typing purposes. Therefore, the women on the hair boards "made up" that category.

I actually think the 3c category is needed-- just like the 4c category is needed to expand on the 4's. Overall, I responding to the posts of those who continue to say there is no such thing as 4c. This is a newer category that is developing in the same way the 3c developed...thru hairboards based on women who do not fit into the other subcategories.

I know right!



LOL @ the bolded. I'm puttin myself in that same category cause if there's no such thing as 3c then I give up on hair typing. I remember last year when I posted that I consider myself 4a since that is the tightest texture on my head (regardless of any other looser texture I may have), and I got schooled with the quickness that it was misleading.

If people claim that 3c is made up, then I have no idea what this is in front of my head, cause it's not 3b and no one will accept my reasoning for 4a, so *shrugs* Tis why I try not to get caught up in hair typing; it's so confusing.
 
this whole forum wouldn't be "as" large if it was the norm

my mom still:spinning: ....EVERY TIME I SHOW HER A PIC of super long hair (i.e. Chime's hair) .... "what's she mixed with?":lachen::lachen::lachen::lachen:

we need every single one of you to change this EXISTING stereotype

heyyyellll Evelyn said that crap on Basketball wives last nite.... Jen states "my great grandmother is white :rolleyes::yawn:).... EVELYN STATES= "that's why you got that good hair:blush::blush::blush:" :yawn::yawn:

the retention you ladies have and the hair care you apply is astounding to the general public (not everyone... but yes most)


I think alot of those opinions are because other ethnic groups or those from mixed or mutli racial backgrounds do not have to try and "retain" length the way afro hair (or however you wanna label it)

Other races dont moisturize and seal, wear protective styles, or have dry fragile ends. Thier hair grows and retains length with almost no assistance.

They dont put in as much work.

I also think genetics plays a role in how strong your hair is and able to retain growth and length and protection from damage
 
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Wow, thanks, I didn't see your post--there is entirely too much here to read or hold my attention! You totally cleared it up & I couldn't have said it better myself.

no one is saying type 3C DOESN'T EXIST.

People are saying that in Andre's ORIGINAL CHART, it went from 3a, 3b and STRAIGHT into 4. That was it. People ADDED 3c to his chart (not Andre himself, PEOPLE) BECAUSE there IS a hair texture between 3b and 4...and then Andre refined it himself even further because just saying "4" was too broad. So if we are going by "Andre's chart" then no, 3c wasn't listed. But it certainly does exist.

So 4a and 4b it is. If people wanna add 4c heck, go for it. Just like people added 3c because they had THAT texture that wasn't "defined." I see people saying 4c doesn't exist at all, it's just manipulated 4b...I don't agree. That would mean people can say 3c doesn't exist, it's just manipulated 3b.

Andre's system is not gospel. I've see 4b and 3a mixtures on one head and I'm not talking a 3a patch here and there, it was like entwined it made the funkiest texture, so strange. so not all hair conforms to this "Andre chart."
 
Wow, thanks, I didn't see your post--there is entirely too much here to read or hold my attention! You totally cleared it up & I couldn't have said it better myself.

I hear you. But in general, I have seen comments and discussions within the online hair care world that 3c was made up by 4a's who want to feel better about themselves. That's very untrue, IMO, but that's just how some folks feel about certain "types."
 
I think alot of those opinions are because other ethnic groups or those from mixed or mutli racial backgrounds do not have to try and "retain" length the way afro hair (or however you wanna label it)

Other races dont moisturize and seal, wear protective styles, or have dry fragile ends. Thier hair grows and retains length with almost no assistance.


They dont put in as much work.

I also think genetics plays a role in how strong your hair is and able to retain growth and length and protection from damage

This is a LIE! Go over to "Long Hair Community". They do JUST AS MUCH as we do. Many of our techniques have been borrowed from Ayurveda. Many Indian women claim their hair is healthy due to sealing with oil, trimming, and protecting their hair. They follow various "Indian systems" to healthy hair. Ever wonder why many of them always wear a long braid?

Plus, how would you know they never do?

I'm tired of people acting like taking care of Afro-textured hair is like raising the spawn of satan.
 
4a...one of the reasons I watch kim is b/c our textures are similar. Yes we are 4's but we have fine low density hair. For me it acts a little differently from thicker more dense 4a's, but still 4a none the less. I think for all of the numbers fine hair reacts differently from the thicker 3b, 3a, 3c etc. But that's just my opinion...I don't live or die by hair typing.

There's a video where she went in thorough (of course :lol: ) detail about her hair type. So...I'll just take her word for it.

I'm 4 fine hair and my hair acts exactely like hers under the shower :yep: her hair is inspirational
 
This is a LIE! Go over to "Long Hair Community". They do JUST AS MUCH as we do. Many of our techniques have been borrowed from Ayurveda. Many Indian women claim their hair is healthy due to sealing with oil, trimming, and protecting their hair. They follow various "Indian systems" to healthy hair. Ever wonder why many of them always wear a long braid?

Plus, how would you know they never do?

I'm tired of people acting like taking care of Afro-textured hair is like raising the spawn of satan.

The biggest difference between our hair and most other hair types is that it is drier/fragile. It is drier because sebum does not flow as easily down our hair strands as other races because of all of the twists and turns. On top of that each twist and turn of our hair is a weak spot which can result in breakage. But you have to know how to work with your hair and not against it.

Those are our biggest problems. We try to make our hair do things that it was not meant to do. Of course some of us black folks can't get even shoulder length hair if we aren't taking care of our hair properly :ohwell:. Shoot there are some white people, latin american people, anyotherraceyoucanthinkof people who are struggling to get to shoulder length too.

Just leave your hair alone and let it grow :yep:
 
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This is a LIE! Go over to "Long Hair Community". They do JUST AS MUCH as we do. Many of our techniques have been borrowed from Ayurveda. Many Indian women claim their hair is healthy due to sealing with oil, trimming, and protecting their hair. They follow various "Indian systems" to healthy hair. Ever wonder why many of them always wear a long braid?

Plus, how would you know they never do?

I'm tired of people acting like taking care of Afro-textured hair is like raising the spawn of satan.

You're exactly right. I first learned about henna on LHC, and this is the first link that pops up if you Google "grow long hair." - Ultimate Guide to Growing Healthy Long Hair: 20 Steps Teach You How to Grow Long Hair
 
And let me add, the problem with "us" black people, is that overall, we have horrible hair practices IRL. How many people tell you "unh uh, I ain't trying no Suave Conditioner, that stuff is for white people. I don't need no conditioner."

Or "Unh, uh, I don't need to wash my hair every week, white people wash their hair every week."

I have had college educated people tell me those things like that was the gospel truth! And then they wonder why they have been at shoulder length since 1999...okay boo, do you...
 
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And let me add, the problem with "us" black people, is that overall, we have horrible hair practices IRL. How many people tell you "unh uh, I ain't trying no Suave Conditioner, that stuff is for white people. I don't need no conditioner."

Or "Unh, uh, I don't need to wash my hair every week, white people wash their hair every week."

I have had college educated people tell me those things like that was the gospel truth! And then they wonder why they have been at shoulder length since 1999...okay boo, do you...

That stuff annoys me sooo much...

Come to think of it, when I was younger my hair was long, and I was on swim team, so I conditioned my hair everyday and kept it in a bun in summer. Chlorine was a bummer but I conditioner the MESS outta my hair because it was crappy after I got out of the pool.

I will say though, a lot of white folks I know don't use anything after they get out of the shower (no leave-in condish or anything), and I'm like :sad:. Once my make friend touched my hair when it was still wet and he goes, "Ew, there's stuff in it!" And I was like yea dummy...conditioner...that's why I don't have dandruff like you do. How some people have dandruff is beyond me...
 
And let me add, the problem with "us" black people, is that overall, we have horrible hair practices IRL. How many people tell you "unh uh, I ain't trying no Suave Conditioner, that stuff is for white people. I don't need no conditioner."

Or "Unh, uh, I don't need to wash my hair every week, white people wash their hair every week."

I have had college educated people tell me those things like that was the gospel truth! And then they wonder why they have been at shoulder length since 1999...okay boo, do you...

Exactly!

And then those same people have the nerve to tell you that if you keep using "White" products and washing your hair every other day, that your hair is going to fall out.......forgetting that your hair is already thick and healthy, which is why they came up to you asking about your hair in the FIRST place. smh.
 
Exactly!

And then those same people have the nerve to tell you that if you keep using "White" products and washing your hair every other day, that your hair is going to fall out.......forgetting that your hair is already thick and healthy, which is why they came up to you asking about your hair in the FIRST place. smh.

no girl! lol i was told that by cowashing my hair, i was training it to look like twists! :lachen:
i was arguing with several customers for the past three days about my hair and cowashing! i'm tired of folks asking me questions about my hair, and then call me a liar on the low. black folks are amazing sometimes!
 
This is a LIE! Go over to "Long Hair Community". They do JUST AS MUCH as we do. Many of our techniques have been borrowed from Ayurveda. Many Indian women claim their hair is healthy due to sealing with oil, trimming, and protecting their hair. They follow various "Indian systems" to healthy hair. Ever wonder why many of them always wear a long braid?

Plus, how would you know they never do?

I'm tired of people acting like taking care of Afro-textured hair is like raising the spawn of satan.


I have to disagree. I don't think the lohghaircommunity is an accurate representation of "typical" hair care practices amoung non blacks just like lhcf is not an accurate representation of "typical" hair care practices among black women. They are just a special subset that has an interest in growing long hair. Most of the white women that I know just wash and go or wash and heat style. They don't co-wash, moisturize and seal, consciously protective style, do deep conditioning treatments or use exotic products such as ayurvedic herbs.
 
are these 2 pics of the kimmaytube person? or you? sorry if this was answered. i never look at peoples youtubes :lol: only now quickly trying to find links for dd.
That's miss "She's not a 4" kimmatube lol. ;p Just using her own pictures that SHE posted to prove a point!

As for the "not taking care of it" aspect...so type 3s who don't "take care of their hair" miraculously transform into a 4 with a fro? LOL. Rigght.
 
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