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[faithVA]

Crece Pelo is not approved. It's listed on the MHM site, but many places don't list the full ingredients. It has glycerin and PEG-12 dimethicone.

I'm not sure if there's been an ingredient change or what. But I just checked the tub I have.

I think I read there are two different tubs, one has the dimethicone and the other does not.

 

[faithVA]

KiWiStyle[/USER];20854111]faithVA yes, I'm low porosity. My relaxed strands just sit on top of the water and my NG floats just underneath and never falls to the bottom.

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I couldn't find the post per here are a few signs of lo po hair.

...is sensitive to protein
...takes a while to get wet.
...may take longer than 6 hours to dry
...doesn't easily take to chemical services like relaxers
...products tend to sit on top of the hair versus absorbing into hair
...doesn't tend to like heavy oils and butters
...usually feels wiry with the use of coconut oil
...tends to be hard to moisturize and can feel dry even after deep conditioning, sealing, etc

 

[KiWiStyle]

I couldn't find the post per here are a few signs of lo po hair.

...is sensitive to protein - NO

...takes a while to get wet. - not really, my roots yeah.

...may take longer than 6 hours to dry - yes, while in a protective style.

...doesn't easily take to chemical services like relaxers - yeah, relaxers take longer to penetrate so I'm told.

...products tend to sit on top of the hair versus absorbing into hair - some do, like Shea moisture manual honey masque. I still love it tho, lol

...doesn't tend to like heavy oils and butters - I don't believe I have any problems with them other than hair feeling coated.

...usually feels wiry with the use of coconut oil - I haven't noticed.

...tends to be hard to moisturize and can feel dry even after deep conditioning, sealing, etc - sometimes I need to baggy to let things marinate, afterwards my hair feels cool to the touch.

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[AJellyCake]

I think I read there are two different tubs, one has the dimethicone and the other does not.

Yeah just check, pelohello! On the tubs I have, they list some ingredients on one side of the label and the rest on the other side. A lot of sites just include ingredients from one side. You have to check both.

 

[faithVA]

MsDeeKay has been adding new posts to her blog.
http://www.msdeekay.com/

 

[faithVA]

Crece Pelo is not approved. It's listed on the MHM site, but many places don't list the full ingredients. It has glycerin and PEG-12 dimethicone.

I'm not sure if there's been an ingredient change or what. But I just checked the tub I have.

Interestingly MsDeeKay did a post on this. Perhaps someone on here sent her a message.

http://www.msdeekay.com/4521/crece-pelo-conditioner-review/

She says if the PEG-12 is near the end, not to worry about it too much because it is water soluble.

 

[msbettyboop]

faithVA, correct me if I'm wrong but we're supposed to do this 5 step process everyday for a week??? If so, how is this possible? It takes ages and I gotta go to work everyday. It's my business but I still gotta go to work. Loll.

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[msbettyboop]

Ok, I've finished the first treatment and here's my feedback.

Step 1 - Hybrid of Cherry Lola treatment and carmel treatment. Left on for two hours. Cowashed out with Tresemmes conditioner (not the one on the list).
Step 2 - DCd overnight with generic conditioner diluted with warm water (not on the list). Rinsed out the next morning after wearing a heat cap for another 30 mins.
Step 3 - Clay rinse. I used Aztec healing clay. Left on for two hours. Rinse out with warm water
Step 4 - Applied diluted conditioner as a leave in (not on the list).
Step 5 - Applied gel. Ouidad moisture lock (not on the list but the only other gel I had was Ecostyler olive oil gel, which I read is bad, and Ouidad climate control gel). I have flaxseed so I will make some flaxseed gel today.
Step 6 - Applied almond oil.

Assessment

O.M.G!!!! I think I'm not 4c at all. I just assumed I was because my hair was always dry and frizzy. When I was done with this, I let my hair down parted in the middle, wet before I applied gel and conditioner and I was staring at this amazing head of curls with no tangles and knots. I was so shocked, I flat twisted my hair in sections within 5 minutes because I was afraid if I let it dry that way, it would tangle up really bad.

There really is something to this technique and if you have low porosity hair or hair that seems to always be dry, you really should give it a try. I will say though that it is extremely messy and takes forever.

I would love to do this everyday but I don't see how this is possible with a work schedule. Is there a shorter version? I'm also concerned about the amount of manipulation. I didn't lose that much hair today but I might tugging away everyday with all these steps

Also, am I supposed to wear my hair as a wash and go after the steps? I normally do a curlformers set with my usual routine.

Another issue for me is I don't have some of the products and they're not available where I am so I will have to substitute with something else. Getting the Aztec clay alone cost over $50

 

[Guinan]

I think I'm going wig it next week. I'm bout to start the MHM today. I usually wear a wng but I don't feel like being bothered next week. So tomorrow I twist my hair and keep the twists under my wig.

 

[Honey Bee]

How did it turn out?

I ended up getting distracted and dragging it out over two days. I finally finished the 'french red clay' thank goodness. I was starting to dread cleaning up afterwards.

Where's the best place to buy clay? It's easiest for me to get it from Amazon, but that's just cuz I'm lazy.

My hair is really coming along. It's right on the cusp of being long enough to hang. I'm not bc'ing until its at least NL unstretched. I was hoping the MHM would help with some hang-time, to speed things along, but I can't discern whether it's the method or the length (17 mos. post) at this point.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA, correct me if I'm wrong but we're supposed to do this 5 step process everyday for a week??? If so, how is this possible? It takes ages and I gotta go to work everyday. It's my business but I still gotta go to work. Loll.

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Every day for a week is a suggestion not a requirement. If you can't do it every day then do every 3 days. You won't know how long it takes you though until you do the regular regimen. You did extra your first time. It is doable but not for everyone.

 

[faithVA]

msbettyboop[/USER]
There really is something to this technique and if you have low porosity hair or hair that seems to always be dry, you really should give it a try. I will say though that it is extremely messy and takes forever.

I would love to do this everyday but I don't see how this is possible with a work schedule. Is there a shorter version? I'm also concerned about the amount of manipulation. I didn't lose that much hair today but I might tugging away everyday with all these steps

Also, am I supposed to wear my hair as a wash and go after the steps? I normally do a curlformers set with my usual routine.

Another issue for me is I don't have some of the products and they're not available where I am so I will have to substitute with something else. Getting the Aztec clay alone cost over $50 [/SIZE][/FONT]

Try one regular treatment before you start modifying. And if you do it every 3 days you may be surprised that manipulation isn't an issue becAuse your hair is in better condition.

Wear your hair however you like.

Use what you can but remember you just need a conditioner, gel aand clay unless you want a separate leave in.

How much clay did you get?

 

[faithVA]

Honey Bee[/USER];20860331]I ended up getting distracted and dragging it out over two days. I finally finished the 'french red clay' thank goodness. I was starting to dread cleaning up afterwards.

Where's the best place to buy clay? It's easiest for me to get it from Amazon, but that's just cuz I'm lazy.

My hair is really coming along. It's right on the cusp of being long enough to hang. I'm not bc'ing until its at least NL unstretched. I was hoping the MHM would help with some hang-time, to speed things along, but I can't discern whether it's the method or the length (17 mos. post) at this point.

Yeah I'm giving my pink away.

The prices for clay are better a t butters and bars or Bulk Apothecary. I've used butters and b a rd so I can vouch for it. I hear Camden Gray has clay as well.

 

[msbettyboop]

Try one regular treatment before you start modifying. And if you do it every 3 days you may be surprised that manipulation isn't an issue becAuse your hair is in better condition. Wear your hair however you like. Use what you can but remember you just need a conditioner, gel aand clay unless you want a separate leave in. How much clay did you get?

I got one 500lb. Based on what I used yesterday and repeating the treatment every 2 days, it should last for up to a month.

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[msbettyboop]

Ok, everyone. I'm sold. I took out my flat twists this morning. They were still damp but I was in a hurry so the results were frizzy and I had to wear a bun but there were two differences - even frizzy, my hair was still moisturised and felt soft to the touch and two, the result of the twist out was defined and my hair hung properly as opposed to when I used to do this previously. I'm going to try this every 2 days for the next week and report back next week Sunday. Since the cherry lola treatment is out of the process, I think this won't take as long as I thought it would :crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:.

faithVA, do you wear a wash and go at all with this regimen? If so, do you let it air dry or diffuse? Thanks.

 

[faithVA]

Ok, everyone. I'm sold. I took out my flat twists this morning. They were still damp but I was in a hurry so the results were frizzy and I had to wear a bun but there were two differences - even frizzy, my hair was still moisturised and felt soft to the touch and two, the result of the twist out was defined and my hair hung properly as opposed to when I used to do this previously. I'm going to try this every 2 days for the next week and report back next week Sunday. Since the cherry lola treatment is out of the process, I think this won't take as long as I thought it would :crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:.

faithVA, do you wear a wash and go at all with this regimen? If so, do you let it air dry or diffuse? Thanks.

I have not done a wng at all. I only wear flat twist and I air dry. I know some other ladies do wngs perhaps they will share how they dry. I plan to try a wng in the spring.

 

[Guinan]

@msbettyboop, I do both wng's and twistouts. My reggie is this: From Sun-Wed I wear a wng. From Thur-sat I wear a twistout.

Regarding my Wng; I use my hair dryer (not blowdryer) to dry my hair up to about 90% dry and then I let my hair air dry until it's completely dry. To refresh my curls, I wet it each morning, but I let that air dry unless it's too wet then I set under my hair dryer for about 10mins.

 

[faithVA]

I tried the mud puddle for the first time today. So far I don't see it working for my hair. My hair is too dense, too kinky and too shrunken for it to work well. It recommends using a small amount but I had to use a few Palm fills to cover m y hair and scalp. I also washed twice. It just doesn't easily spread through my hair probably due to my porosity.

It definitely is gentle and it does cleanse. I think this is something I would use when i want little more than a water rinse but not a shampoo. It doesn't cAuse excess shrinkage but it doesn't soften my hair either.

I will try to find some place to put it in my regimen. Perhaps I will try it after my DC when I don't want to do a full mud treatment. It definitely can't replace the clay step on my hair, not yet anyway.

 

[bemajor]

I am a lurker but I came in to say... If you have time, I encourage you to increase the time you leave the clay on your hair.

I use bentonite clay. I am unable to complete the entire process before work in the morning and I dislike going to bed with the conditioner. So I stopped the process at the clay step and went to bed with the clay. Oh my gosh. I have the most defined wash and go with hang time.

I have done this twice so far. Best decision. Although I will not keep it up (note: i will do this a few more times...since I am going on vacation for ten days soon..and I cant pack too much hair stuff), I will keep the clay on for at least two hours. Or until it's dry. Whichever comes first. Half an hour to an hour was ok...but the difference now is drastic. This has really sped my process along. So I just want to emphasize the importance of the clay step. Fyi I am low po.

 

[bemajor]

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[aharri23]

I am a lurker but I came in to say... If you have time, I encourage you to increase the time you leave the clay on your hair.

I use bentonite clay. I am unable to complete the entire process before work in the morning and I dislike going to bed with the conditioner. So I stopped the process at the clay step and went to bed with the clay. Oh my gosh. I have the most defined wash and go with hang time.

I have done this twice so far. Best decision. Although I will not keep it up (note: i will do this a few more times...since I am going on vacation for ten days soon..and I cant pack too much hair stuff), I will keep the clay on for at least two hours. Or until it's dry. Whichever comes first. Half an hour to an hour was ok...but the difference now is drastic. This has really sped my process along. So I just want to emphasize the importance of the clay step. Fyi I am low po.

Wow really? I normally leave the clay on 15 mins but do you think it really makes that much of a difference? I'll try leaving the clay on 2 hours next time. Your wash and go turned out great

 

[bemajor]

Yeah...fifteen minutes is not enough for me. Maybe I add too much water...but my hair remains wet for a long time. The difference between the two wash and gos may be due to more than leaving the clay for longer since they were so far a part. They are more like a before and after/during mhm

 

[bemajor]

Just want to emphasize that I will not be leaving the clay overnight everytime. But It gave me a much needed boost. Especially around my crown that has been very resistant over the last few months/week. If you need a boost...I suggest you leave the clay on longer at least once.

 

[faithVA]

I am a lurker but I came in to say... If you have time, I encourage you to increase the time you leave the clay on your hair.

I use bentonite clay. I am unable to complete the entire process before work in the morning and I dislike going to bed with the conditioner. So I stopped the process at the clay step and went to bed with the clay. Oh my gosh. I have the most defined wash and go with hang time.

I have done this twice so far. Best decision. Although I will not keep it up (note: i will do this a few more times...since I am going on vacation for ten days soon..and I cant pack too much hair stuff), I will keep the clay on for at least two hours. Or until it's dry. Whichever comes first. Half an hour to an hour was ok...but the difference now is drastic. This has really sped my process along. So I just want to emphasize the importance of the clay step. Fyi I am low po.

Thanks for sharing. I love when lurkers drop by. They share wonderful tips.

 

[Guinan]

Wow really? I normally leave the clay on 15 mins but do you think it really makes that much of a difference? I'll try leaving the clay on 2 hours next time. Your wash and go turned out great

Yea, I leave my clay on for about an hour or more depending on my schedule. I used to leave it on for 15mins, but I noticed that my hair like the clay to be left on longer.

 

[GGsKin]

I also leave my clay on for a long time. The longer I leave it on my face, the better. So I didn't think any different when it came to my hair. I like the results but I've never left it on less than an hr so I can't really compare.

ETA: I soooo do not leave my clay on for hrs on end anymore. Just long enough to thoroughly finger-detangle, and then I rinse it out.

 

[snoop]

I've also noticed that the thickness of the mix makes a difference. So time being the same a slightly watery mixture will provide different results than a slightly thicker mixture. (Using rhassoul clay for approximately 20 min)

 

[faithVA]

Finally got around to washing. Used mud puddle for step 1. Did a protein treatment with Komaza. I used curl junkie curl rehab on the right and NG herbal blends on the left and Did with heat for 45 minutes. Used pink clay for about an hour. Used AIA leave in. Then twisted up with hazelnut oil and MHC type 4 hair cream.


Overall I like the NG over the curl junkie. I'm Solomon glad to be done with that pink clay. I hope to never see it again. And I like the type 4 is cream so far. Will see how it does during the week.

I didn't have any real definition after rinsing the clay but my hair hung better. I didn't thing to look at my roots to see if they were hydrated.

 

[hairtimes5]

I'm going to try leaving the clay on longer next time and see if it makes a difference. For some reason that's the least liked step for me so I've never left it on for more than 15 mins. I haven't did my hair since last Wednesday, just don't feel like being bothered. I've been wearing a puff, spritzing it every night with water and doing the ghe. The hubs and I are going away for a few days to celebrate our anniversary. So happy to only be taking conditioner and gel instead of my usual plethora of products. Gonna try to do the full routine before we leave and then when I get back.

faithVA I was gonna try mud puddle but after reading your review, I'm good. Still want to try Terresentials eventually.

 

[faithVA]

I'm going to try leaving the clay on longer next time and see if it makes a difference. For some reason that's the least liked step for me so I've never left it on for more than 15 mins. I haven't did my hair since last Wednesday, just don't feel like being bothered. I've been wearing a puff, spritzing it every night with water and doing the ghe. The hubs and I are going away for a few days to celebrate our anniversary. So happy to only be taking conditioner and gel instead of my usual plethora of products. Gonna try to do the full routine before we leave and then when I get back.

faithVA I was gonna try mud puddle but after reading your review, I'm good. Still want to try Terresentials eventually.

I like Terressentials. I will review the mud puddle again when I use it for step 3.