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[faithVA]

I use about 6-7 tbs of clay, about a tbs of honey, about a tsp of cayenne pepper, a splash of ACV and enough warm water to make a runny mixture about the consistency of a milkshake. I've discovered that a little goes a long way. I use an old SD jar with a lid so that I can stir and/or shake as needed. I wish I knew what the cayenne was for...I saw it in someone's recipe and tried it.

The cayenne is to stimulate the hair follicles. People use it for growth. I use essential oils like peppermint and cedarwood.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I use about 6-7 tbs of clay, about a tbs of honey, about a tsp of cayenne pepper, a splash of ACV and enough warm water to make a runny mixture about the consistency of a milkshake. I've discovered that a little goes a long way. I use an old SD jar with a lid so that I can stir and/or shake as needed. I wish I knew what the cayenne was for...I saw it in someone's recipe and tried it.

Cattypus1 what does the cayenne do? I use a AIA CW jar to store my mud. I bought a squeeze bottle the other day for easier application and I think someone in my house mistaken the little cheap black bag for trash and through it out so now I have to buy another.

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[KiWiStyle]

The cayenne is to stimulate the hair follicles. People use it for growth. I use essential oils like peppermint and cedarwood.

Never mind Cattypus1, faithVA answererd the cayenne question. I like the idea of using an EO too.

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[KiWiStyle]

Yes you can. But I would suggest starting out with 4 tbs first to get your measurements right before moving on to a pound. And I decrease the oil and honey in the rhassoul because it really isn't needed. So I just add a drop. If you start out with small batches you will understand the rhassoul clay better to tailor it to your needs.

So I have just been wasting clay...I'll start with what you said but with no added ingredients to see how it performs alone vs. With a little oil and honey.

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[HopefulOne]

I use molasses, olive oil, bentonite clay and very little water in my mix. The molasses makes it very smooth and easy to apply. The mixture comes off very easily and leaves my hair feeling strong. In addition, I leave my clay on overnight and I have never had any problems leaving it on that long. I do cover it with a plastic cap to protect my pillow and to keep it from drying out.

 

[atlien11]

Hi Ladies -- I have been lurking in this thread for awhile now and I cant seem to figure out what the purpose of the clay is. I did a search on this thread and it seems like its only to remove the conditioner that was left from the previous step.

Can someone enlighten me as to why this step is part of the regimen? Also, do you get the same results without it?

Thanks a bunch!!

ETA: I think i found the answer, as it supposed to cause clumping, define curls, and remove the conditioner for the leave-ins to be absorbed. I thought adding the acv to the clay would help close the cuticle back up too, which makes sense. Then the conditioner wont just be rinsed out.

I am still curious to see if ppl are getting results without this step (clay). seems messy.

 

[GGsKin]

Hi Ladies -- I have been lurking in this thread for awhile now and I cant seem to figure out what the purpose of the clay is. I did a search on this thread and it seems like its only to remove the conditioner that was left from the previous step.

Can someone enlighten me as to why this step is part of the regimen? Also, do you get the same results without it?

Thanks a bunch!!

From what I am aware of, the clay is the step where the hair is removed of all product and clean. Before MHM, I would read about women using clay to really clarify their hair, like you would use a face mask, as it is known to draw out impurities.

I have only ever done all the steps together or cowashed, but I know some people here have tried without clay and not got the same results they did when using the clay. The trend is that there seems to be better definition when the clay is used.

I'm sure someone here will have some useful info for you.

 

[Cattypus1]

The cayenne is to stimulate the hair follicles. People use it for growth. I use essential oils like peppermint and cedarwood.

Thanks for that, you are such a wealth of information.

 

[KiWiStyle]

Hi Ladies -- I have been lurking in this thread for awhile now and I cant seem to figure out what the purpose of the clay is. I did a search on this thread and it seems like its only to remove the conditioner that was left from the previous step.

Can someone enlighten me as to why this step is part of the regimen? Also, do you get the same results without it?

Thanks a bunch!!

ETA: I think i found the answer, as it supposed to cause clumping, define curls, and remove the conditioner for the leave-ins to be absorbed. I thought adding the acv to the clay would help close the cuticle back up too, which makes sense. Then the conditioner wont just be rinsed out.

I am still curious to see if ppl are getting results without this step (clay). seems messy.

atlien11 the clay step clarifies, detoxes and can moisturize if you're using q clay like rhasshoul. This step is where you will check for max hydration, if you see your strands beginning to clump more its working. Its the curl clumping and elongation that I'm seeking and this only occurs with fully hydrated strands which is near impossible for us type 4b/c folk without the regimen.

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[msbettyboop]

I tried the KKCC again but diluted greatly and while there wasn't a yucky feeling to the touch, there was still a slight sticky feel so I'm out once I finish my current jar.

I went to the beach with friends this weekend and someone took a picture of me with the wind blowing my hair. I looked soooo fabulous in it. I've asked her to send it to me so I can upload on here. Lol.

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[faithVA]

faithVA and KiWiStyle ...got my NG conditioners (plural) today. I bought three of them, Aloe & Avocado, Mango & Coconut Water and Herbal Blends, with my PJ self. I haven't tried any of them yet because they didn't arrive in the mail before I got to that step. I can't wait to love them.

I hope you do. I am going to DC with the Herbal Blends which I love the most.

 

[faithVA]

Hi Ladies -- I have been lurking in this thread for awhile now and I cant seem to figure out what the purpose of the clay is. I did a search on this thread and it seems like its only to remove the conditioner that was left from the previous step.

Can someone enlighten me as to why this step is part of the regimen? Also, do you get the same results without it?

Thanks a bunch!!

ETA: I think i found the answer, as it supposed to cause clumping, define curls, and remove the conditioner for the leave-ins to be absorbed. I thought adding the acv to the clay would help close the cuticle back up too, which makes sense. Then the conditioner wont just be rinsed out.

I am still curious to see if ppl are getting results without this step (clay). seems messy.

Just to add to what other said...

If you are low porosity the clay after the conditioner is crucial because low porosity hair has a difficult time accepting the leave-in after deep conditioning. The conditioner tends to seal up the cuticle and the leave-in then just sits on top of the hair.

This is also the step which will create/enhance curl definition and curl clumping. Others have switched the order doing clay before conditioning and have reported that although their hair felt soft, they did not have the same definition as when they did the clay last.

 

[faithVA]

Hi Ladies -- I have been lurking in this thread for awhile now and I cant seem to figure out what the purpose of the clay is. I did a search on this thread and it seems like its only to remove the conditioner that was left from the previous step.

Can someone enlighten me as to why this step is part of the regimen? Also, do you get the same results without it?

Thanks a bunch!!

ETA: I think i found the answer, as it supposed to cause clumping, define curls, and remove the conditioner for the leave-ins to be absorbed. I thought adding the acv to the clay would help close the cuticle back up too, which makes sense. Then the conditioner wont just be rinsed out.

I am still curious to see if ppl are getting results without this step (clay). seems messy.

If you can get the results without this step, you probably already know it. There isn't anything different about the other steps which are wash, condition, leave-in and seal. People that can get the results with the clay after the conditioner probably are already doing the curly girl method or wngs.

 

[faithVA]

I tried the KKCC again but diluted greatly and while there wasn't a yucky feeling to the touch, there was still a slight sticky feel so I'm out once I finish my current jar.

I went to the beach with friends this weekend and someone took a picture of me with the wind blowing my hair. I looked soooo fabulous in it. I've asked her to send it to me so I can upload on here. Lol.

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love that you looked fabulous And I'm jealous that its warm enough where you are to go to the beach.

 

[atlien11]

AbsyBlvd KiWiStyle faithVA

Thank you for the responses

 

[Guinan]

I bought two bottles of the Tressume Avocado Conditioner!!! I have been having a really hard time finding them. So I figure I better start stocking up.

I'm still rocking my Wng from last week. I plan on washing my hair next tues.

I went out yesterday and this guy accused me of wearing a wig. So I told him to pull my hair and he did. He was sooo surprised. He was like "Yo, that ish is real!". After that I couldn't keep him away

 

[KiWiStyle]

I bought two bottles of the Tressume Avocado Conditioner!!! I have been having a really hard time finding them. So I figure I better start stocking up.

I'm still rocking my Wng from last week. I plan on washing my hair next tues.

I went out yesterday and this guy accused me of wearing a wig. So I told him to pull my hair and he did. He was sooo surprised. He was like "Yo, that ish is real!". After that I couldn't keep him away

That's hilarious! I'm surprised you have a difficult time finding the Avocado Tresemme, every drug, grocery, Target, Walmart, etc. have that one.

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[Guinan]

That's hilarious! I'm surprised you have a difficult time finding the Avocado Tresemme, every drug, grocery, Target, Walmart, etc. have that one.

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I'm finding it odd also. The stores i go too have every other tressume product, but the tressume naturals advocado conditioner. Even when i purchased the conditioners there was only 3 left. I got them at a rite aid in Delaware.

 

[Duchess007]

Here's my hair after the latest round. Did BS/VO5 clarifier, DC'd overnight (water + VO5 Repair & Protect + honey) over fenugreek/green tea rinse, then did clay step for 1 hour. After rinsing, applied watered-down Cure Care Conditioner and sealed with Safflower oil.

After the last step:










Had a hard time capturing the curls because of the shine.

 

[HopefulOne]

I bought KJ Naturals White Chocolate Whipped Butter when it was on sale. It is a definite keeper for me. I never do anything other than wngs so I am always looking for something to use after my aloe leave-in. This was perfect for my curls. I don't need definition so I just need something to keep it from being dry. I highly recommend this product and it is MHM approved ingredients. I don't have a relationship with KJ I am just talking about a good product. Also, you don't need a lot. I just use enough to lightly cover each curl of my APL hair and it did a great job and it had movement and softness.

 

[msbettyboop]

Just FYI, tresemmes has two different conditioners. The MHM approved one has a black cap and proved impossible to locate for me while the new formula has different ingredients and a white cap. I could find the white cap but not the old one.

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[msbettyboop]

I went out yesterday and this guy accused me of wearing a wig. So I told him to pull my hair and he did. He was sooo surprised. He was like "Yo, that ish is real!". After that I couldn't keep him away

This happened to me last week. I was with a friend who referred to my hair as a wig and I was like, excuse me, it is not a wig! He stuck his hand in my hair before I could stop him and spent the rest of the day telling everyone we came across, " can you believe that's not a wig?" Lol.

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[KiWiStyle]

Just FYI, tresemmes has two different conditioners. The MHM approved one has a black cap and proved impossible to locate for me while the new formula has different ingredients and a white cap. I could find the white cap but not the old one.

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I have both, the ALV & Avocado and the sweet orange & lemongrass, both have black caps. Are you saying there is a new version with different ingredients msbettyboop?

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[Guinan]

Just FYI, tresemmes has two different conditioners. The MHM approved one has a black cap and proved impossible to locate for me while the new formula has different ingredients and a white cap. I could find the white cap but not the old one.

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Yup. They are soooo hard to find. Both of the conditioners that I bought have the black cap. Maybe I'll test out the white cap conditioner and see how my hair responds.

 

[msbettyboop]

I have both, the ALV & Avocado and the sweet orange & lemongrass, both have black caps. Are you saying there is a new version with different ingredients msbettyboop? Sent from my SM-N900V using LHCF

It seems so. The old version was sweet orange and lemongrass but the new version is sweet orange only and apparently it sucks.

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[KiWiStyle]

It seems so. The old version was sweet orange and lemongrass but the new version is sweet orange only and apparently it sucks.

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Thanks msbettyboop for the head's up. I'm going to stock up on it when I see more...I'm going today to see if its still in stock because when I bought mine it was either on sale or clearance. I think it was just a sale though.

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[KinkyRN]

Walgreens has the old MHM formula available online only. I buy 6 at a time to get the most out of my shipping fees.

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[Honey Bee]

I never use honey in my hair because the only honey we keep in the house is raw, organic, from bees fed on ambrosia . Recently, I found that Vitacost has raw honey granules! On a whim, I put one in my shopping cart to add to my homemade cereal. But then I waited to place my order... and when I went back, it was buy one, get one half off! So I bought two, one of which is 'hair-designated'. I use it in the clay step and it's soooo easy and, with the bottle I bought, everything is so neat. *sigh* It used to be so messy, goodness.

 

[Cattypus1]

It seems so. The old version was sweet orange and lemongrass but the new version is sweet orange only and apparently it sucks. Sent from my iPad using LHCF

I have both with black caps as well. I have been seeing the avocado one everywhere but have had a hard time finding the orange and lemongrass. I found them last week at Walmart. I bought two but I'm going back and get more.

 

[msbettyboop]

I have both with black caps as well. I have been seeing the avocado one everywhere but have had a hard time finding the orange and lemongrass. I found them last week at Walmart. I bought two but I'm going back and get more.

Lucky ladies......

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