MHM Hangout

[KiWiStyle]

It usually takes me forever to do my hair but I finished the whole regimen in 3 hours including putting in my flat twist

I used the jessicurl aloeba conditioner which I like. I may repurchase when it's on sale. And I made my clay with just water.

Starting to see more definition in the front with the clay in.

Since I'm busy this weekend I will probably wash on Friday's I don't go over 3 days.

3 hours is amazing timing! Do you do each step for the minimum amount of time??

Yay on seeing more definition, its such a good feeling to see big improvements! How long have you been doing the regimen!

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[faithVA]

3 hours is amazing timing! Do you do each step for the minimum amount of time??

Yay on seeing more definition, its such a good feeling to see big improvements! How long have you been doing the regimen!

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I did each step for at least 30 minutes. I just stopped dragging my butt.

I've been doing HMM since June but I haven't been doing every 3 days. After the first month I think I switched to once every 5 days because it took so long to twist my hair. I just started every 3 days this month.

 

[KiWiStyle]

I did each step for at least 30 minutes. I just stopped dragging my butt.

I've been doing HMM since June but I haven't been doing every 3 days. After the first month I think I switched to once every 5 days because it took so long to twist my hair. I just started every 3 days this month.

Oh the butt dragging thing...I doubt I can stop dragging mine, Lol. I can't imagine trying to do every 3 days with a lot of hair, I'm so glad i'm working towards MH with a TWA. I chemically processed my hair for 30 years, I have a lot of detoxing to do so I'm going full speed as long as I can afford to.

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[aharri23]

What are the pros and cons of rhassoul clay versues bentonite?

 

[msbettyboop]

I used ghassoul clay for the first time and it did its job very very well but me no likey. I like my hair getting bigger as it dries. I will use bentonite clay next time and compare results.

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[tashboog]

It depends on what you are comfortable with. You want to use a product that has a ph between 4 and 5.5.

Most people will just use something like the kinky curl gel which has a ph of 5 to close the cuticle. You can use a very diluted mixture of acv. I think some have used 32 oz with I think its 1 tbsp of water. Don't quote me on that because I haven't measured and tested it.

Some people use a product with aloe vera.

I have mixed leave-in, water and a little acv to drop the ph of my leave-in.

The gist is that you want to use a product after your leave-in that has a ph of 4 to 5.5 and that are many ways to do that with purchased products, products you make yourself or by adding acv, aloe vera, citric acid etc to products.

faithVA I think you meant to say 32 oz of water with 1 tbsp of ACV. Just clarifying so that people aren't using 32 oz of ACV which would be way too much to put on your hair.

 

[tashboog]

What are the pros and cons of rhassoul clay versues bentonite?

aharri23 Protective Princess did a video comparing the two. Here is the link. HTH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd1m014DgMo

 

[faithVA]

I used ghassoul clay for the first time and it did its job very very well but me no likey. I like my hair getting bigger as it dries. I will use bentonite clay next time and compare results.

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Did you use it with just water or did you add honey and oil? If you added honey and oil try the rhassoul with just water next time.

 

[faithVA]

What are the pros and cons of rhassoul clay versues bentonite?

I think it depends on your hair. I think bentonite works better for high porosity and those that have hair that isn't super dehydrated.

For me bentonite was killing my hair. It was sucking all the waters and oils out of my hair. My hair would tangle when I applied it and would be super dry when I rinsed. I could only leave it on for 15 minutes. I had to make sure I used oil and honey. But bentonite is less expensive and 1/2 cup of bentonite makes more mud than 1/2 cup of rhassoul.

Rhassoul for me is gentler on my hair. Even my dry hair can accept rhassoul just mixed with water and not have a problem. I can leave it on for an hour and it doesn't dry my hair out.

For those that have both remember you can mix them. Use more of the one you like the best.

Bentonite is used for kitty litter if that gives you an idea of its absorption properties.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA I think you meant to say 32 oz of water with 1 tbsp of ACV. Just clarifying so that people aren't using 32 oz of ACV which would be way too much to put on your hair.

I told them don't quote me on that You are right. I went back and changed it. Thanks

 

[hairtimes5]

Been doing the GHE under a beanie since Monday, haven't washed my hair since Saturday. I just don't feel like being bothered. I usually alternate doing my girls' hair so that I'm not doing it all on the same weekend. Two of them went to a sleepover last weekend so now I have all 4 heads to do this weekend which leaves me at the bottom of the list. Who knows when I'll get to my own

 

[faithVA]

Been doing the GHE under a beanie since Monday, haven't washed my hair since Saturday. I just don't feel like being bothered. I usually alternate doing my girls' hair so that I'm not doing it all on the same weekend. Two of them went to a sleepover last weekend so now I have all 4 heads to do this weekend which leaves me at the bottom of the list. Who knows when I'll get to my own

You have a lot to do momma. Take your time and get to it when you can. Since you have been gheing, you are still at least moisturized under your beanie.

 

[GGsKin]

What are the pros and cons of rhassoul clay versues bentonite?

For MHM, I used bentonite clay from September to December. And am using rhassoul currently. I managed to get the same amount of clay (2lbs) for around the same price on Amazon. I use more rhassoul than bentonite to get the same amount of mixture. Careful, ACV really waters down the rhassoul so where a use maybe a spoonful for my bentonite mix, thanks to advice from faithVA, I only add a small splash to rhassoul. I dont add oil to my rhassoul clay. My hair seems defined with both clays but rhassoul leaves my hair slightly softer.

I am one of those who feels longer is better when it comes to leaving the mix on my hair. If you've tried leaving the clay on for 30mins vs a longer time, has anyone noticed the length of time making a difference in their outcome?

ETA: I try not to leave the clay on for longer than an hr and a half now- my timing includes application, where previously it did not. I think the longer times don't impact my hair so much when I am baggying and wigging (bald spot regi). But when I wore my hair out, it was looking a bit dry.

 

[faithVA]

I wanted to do the porosity test after the clay step last night, but what I'm noticing is that I have so few shed hairs after applying the clay that it is hard to find hair to do the test with. That is definitely progress. There use to be a time that my hair shed from the time I took out the style until I finished putting the new style in. It was a mess. I had hair everywhere.

 

[GGsKin]

I have hair shedding at every step except maybe the application of the leave-in and/or gel. When I do MHM with a two or three day gap, I have a lot less shed hair than when I've done GHE for a week or more. But I always have shed hair. I do my routine in the bathroom so I can rinse the hairs off my hands as I go. I use this opportunity to collect the hairs to compare the state/amounts when I am done (may be a bit manky but I do it for the love of my hair lol). I check if they are shed hairs vs breakage and I believe they are shed (at least I hope).

 

[HopefulOne]

For MHM, I used bentonite clay from September to December. And am using rhassoul currently. I managed to get the same amount of clay (2lbs) for around the same price on Amazon. I use more rhassoul than bentonite to get the same amount of mixture. Careful, ACV really waters down the rhassoul so where a use maybe a spoonful for my bentonite mix, thanks to advice from faithVA, I only add a small splash to rhassoul. I dont add oil to my rhassoul clay. My hair seems defined with both clays but rhassoul leaves my hair slightly softer. I am one of those who feels longer is better when it comes to leaving the mix on my hair. If you've tried leaving the clay on for 30mins vs a longer time, has anyone noticed the length of time making a difference in their outcome?

I leave my bentonite in overnight and I don't have any problems. I do mix it with olive oil and molasses though. I don't know if it is important to this discussion but am 3c and my curls are defined without this. I use the method to avoid tangles

 

[faithVA]

I am too afraid to leave my clay in overnight but I do want to try leaving it in maybe 3 hours. I just never seem to find the time to do that. I'm rarely home all day. Maybe if we have a snow day I will try it then.

 

[faithVA]

I put links to some of the clay distributors in the 1st post. Are there any other things you ladies would like for me to add?

 

[HopefulOne]

I am too afraid to leave my clay in overnight but I do want to try leaving it in maybe 3 hours. I just never seem to find the time to do that. I'm rarely home all day. Maybe if we have a snow day I will try it then.

I use a plastic cap so it doesn't dry out and get stiff during the night It helps me do the process every 3 days. I do the BS and DC and leave the clay in overnight and rinse and go in the morning. That way my hair is fresh everyday. I don't like second day hair.

 

[faithVA]

I use a plastic cap so it doesn't dry out and get stiff during the night It helps me do the process every 3 days. I do the BS and DC and leave the clay in overnight and rinse and go in the morning. That way my hair is fresh everyday. I don't like second day hair.

Even with a plastic cap I'm concerned that the clay may be drying to my hair. I know the rhassoul is better for my hair than the bentonite but I'm still a bit wary. I don't wear a WNG so I really don't need an overnight treatment unless I'm just too tired to rinse it out. I only want to see if having it in a longer has any benefits. My instinct tells me to leave well enough alone Just because other people can do it doesn't mean I can.

 

[HopefulOne]

Even with a plastic cap I'm concerned that the clay may be drying to my hair. I know the rhassoul is better for my hair than the bentonite but I'm still a bit wary. I don't wear a WNG so I really don't need an overnight treatment unless I'm just too tired to rinse it out. I only want to see if having it in a longer has any benefits. My instinct tells me to leave well enough alone Just because other people can do it doesn't mean I can.

You are right, do you.

 

[aharri23]

Thanks guys for the responses, one more question I want to start wearing a beanie every now and then (maybe like 1-2x a week) will the beanie dry my hair out or cause damage? It's really cold outside and i feel the beanie will help me stay warm while playing outside sports

 

[faithVA]

Thanks guys for the responses, one more question I want to start wearing a beanie every now and then (maybe like 1-2x a week) will the beanie dry my hair out or cause damage? It's really cold outside and i feel the beanie will help me stay warm while playing outside sports

I put my plastic cap on under my beanie. If a plastic cap won't fit try putting some type of satin cap on or lining your beanie with satin. It will be gentler on your hair and it will be warmer.

 

[GGsKin]

I leave my bentonite in overnight and I don't have any problems. I do mix it with olive oil and molasses though. I don't know if it is important to this discussion but am 3c and my curls are defined without this. I use the method to avoid tangles

I just wanted to see if anyone noticed if their hair felt softer, retained moisture for longer because they left the clay on longer, or if anyone got the same results whether they left the clay on long or not.
I've only ever left it on for probably an hour and a half or more, never less. This is partially because 1. I read on Pinke's MHM website that the longer you leave the mix on the better. 2. I am a practitioner of extending times when it comes to treatments lol I can't seem to help myself. I'd love to reduce my wash day by a couple of hrs. I will probably test it for myself one of these days.

 

[hairtimes5]

Thanks guys for the responses, one more question I want to start wearing a beanie every now and then (maybe like 1-2x a week) will the beanie dry my hair out or cause damage? It's really cold outside and i feel the beanie will help me stay warm while playing outside sports

I wear a plastic cap and satin bonnet under my beanie.

 

[hairtimes5]

For MHM, I used bentonite clay from September to December. And am using rhassoul currently. I managed to get the same amount of clay (2lbs) for around the same price on Amazon. I use more rhassoul than bentonite to get the same amount of mixture. Careful, ACV really waters down the rhassoul so where a use maybe a spoonful for my bentonite mix, thanks to advice from faithVA, I only add a small splash to rhassoul. I dont add oil to my rhassoul clay. My hair seems defined with both clays but rhassoul leaves my hair slightly softer.

I am one of those who feels longer is better when it comes to leaving the mix on my hair. If you've tried leaving the clay on for 30mins vs a longer time, has anyone noticed the length of time making a difference in their outcome?

I definitely noticed a difference when I started leaving my clay in longer. I only kept the clay in for 15 mins when I was using bentonite because it was drying to my hair. I kept it in for atleast an hour when I switched to rhassoul. Now I'm using Terresentials and I've been sleeping in it but only because I usually do my hair after my crew has gone to bed and by the time I get to the clay step I'm tired.

 

[faithVA]

hairtimes5;[/USER]21007501]I definitely noticed a difference when I started leaving my clay in longer. I only kept the clay in for 15 mins when I was using bentonite because it was drying to my hair. I kept it in for atleast an hour when I switched to rhassoul. Now I'm using Terresentials and I've been sleeping in it but only because I usually do my hair after my crew has gone to bed and by the time I get to the clay step I'm tired.

Have you notice a difference between leaving it in one hour versus leaving it in overnight?

 

[GGsKin]

Thanks hairtimes5. I'm also interested in your response to faithVA...

 

[KiWiStyle]

Thanks guys for the responses, one more question I want to start wearing a beanie every now and then (maybe like 1-2x a week) will the beanie dry my hair out or cause damage? It's really cold outside and i feel the beanie will help me stay warm while playing outside sports

I wore a plastic cap under my beanie yesterday and as self consciousness as I am about my appearance, I felt perfectly confident. My beanie has holes in it.

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[KiWiStyle]

I leave my clay on for hours...yesterday it was at least 5 hours. I may keep it on for 30-45 minutes next time to see if there is w difference. I use NOW brand Moroccan Red clay.

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