MTG controversy

[punchinella]

I hope this has not been asked, because I did not read through all 75 pages, but since MTG has such a bad smell, can it be effectively used as a treatment, maybe overnight prior to washing in the morning? Has anyone tried this?

Yes, since you are only leaving it on overnight you might want to wear a plastic cap. That will add moisture and keep your pillow from getting the smell. If I do it this way I usually wear a satin bonnet on top of the plastic cap (so I won't have to hear the sound the cap makes). HTH

 

[chibi]

actually if anyone hasn't heard..Shapley's are actually getting into the hair care business, My mom spoke to the president of Shapley's and they said they've recieved lots of great comments regarding human hair growth..and they sent my mom a bottle of MTG as a gift and they added lavender oil to make the smell better..and also said that they're working on sellling it to humans..they just have to change a few ingredients

 

[nomoweavesfome]

Ok, so after reading about all the controversy surrounding MTG, I decided to email the president of Shapley's myself and inquire about any dangers of human use of this product. I use it and have not had any problems.

Here is her reply:

Thank you for your email regarding use of Original M-T-G on human hair.

As you mentioned, it was originally formulated for use on human skin ailments. As I was not the owner at the time (it was in the 1930's) I can only guess at why they did not pursue the human market. From the history that I have for the company, when Henry Shapley, who was a barber, realized it worked well on horses, also, he started a side company selling it. This is the company that he sold and eventually became my current company. My guess is he still used the formula on his own clients and then when he retired, it fell by the wayside. Now, as I have not been able to speak directly with Henry, or his family, this is supposition that I have gained from the previous owner.

With all that being said, I can tell you that none of the ingredients in the current formula for Original M-T-G have any known detrimental effects on humans (with the exception of an allergic reaction to sulfur). We have had the formula reviewed by a human hair care specialist (PhD with FDA experience) and he has given us the ok to pursue the human market with the current formula.

This is what we are doing currently. We are tweaking the formula to improve the smell and the consistency, but these are only cosmetic changes. We hope to have this available to market soon.

I hope this helps to alleviate your concerns about using the product. If not, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Best regards,

Cindy S. Carfore
President, Shapley, Ltd.

HTH!!!

OHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! They gonna mess up right there! I don't want the tweaked version. I BET it won't be the same. I have to stock up next pay check!!

 

[MzPrince]

actually if anyone hasn't heard..Shapley's are actually getting into the hair care business, My mom spoke to the president of Shapley's and they said they've recieved lots of great comments regarding human hair growth..and they sent my mom a bottle of MTG as a gift and they added lavender oil to make the smell better..and also said that they're working on sellling it to humans..they just have to change a few ingredients

Did they tell you mother when they will estimate to have this product out for sale?

 

[KiniKakes]

Lawd, i can already feel it.... they're about to raise those durn prices!

*running off to go stock up while its still cheap*

 

[mahogany66]

Prior to purchasing MTG I spoke to a representative and she told me the samething. I hope the formula doesn't change because I am getting pretty good results with MTG.

 

[princcessnadia]

I love MTG and even though I have been using it for almost three 1/2 weeks I have noticed that my hair is thicker and is growing ( right now all I care about is thickness), People should use what works for them who cares what others say or think about it, if it works for you God Bless and if not try something that does,but do not knock or discourage others for whom this product does work

 

[Aveena]

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[Hair Iam]

I have made my own MTG and have had the same results.
Since MAy , 4 inches less 1/2 inch after trim.
MTG does work.

 

[MrsQueeny]

I have made my own MTG and have had the same results.
Since MAy , 4 inches less 1/2 inch after trim.
MTG does work.

Okay spill it and give us the recipe. Your hair looks great in your avatar. Q

 

[Proudpiscean]

As far as I'm concerned there is no controversy. I use it, I like it. End of story.

 

[LondonDiva]

I have seen the MTG debate on almost every hair board I belong to.

For me the debate about MTG/Monistat/Monkey Ball Sweat/Chicken Grease/BBQ Sauce/Old English 800/ETC. as a hair growth aid is clear:

Use it if you want to.
Don't use it if you don't want to.

These are the two choices - pick one and STFU (not directed to anyone here just in general).

All of this "YOU are stupid/silly/desperate for doing something I wouldn't do" just reeks of things better left unmentioned.

I love it!! My sentiments exactly.

 

[aprilbiz]

I'm sure they won't get rid of the original because of their horse market.

 

[Proudpiscean]

I'm sure they won't get rid of the original because of their horse market.

I hope not 'cause that's the one i intend to keep using!
Maybe I better go stock up

 

[KiniKakes]

I hope not 'cause that's the one i intend to keep using!
Maybe I better go stock up

That's probably a good idea. I plan to do the same after i get paid, lol.

 

[AVNchick]

I've been using MTG for a couple of months, and my hair doesn't seem to be growing any faster than usual. I only use once a week though, so maybe that's the problem. I do like the fact that it stopped my dandruff.

 

[CynamonKis]

Mahalialee you are like a scientist when it comes to natural hair care. I love it when you post! If you get a chance (and don't mind doing so) please pm me the proportions/ingredients so I can try to mix this up for myself. And thanks Sunshyne Krissy for the eucalyptus oil tip. Wantlonghealthyhair, I can't wait to find out what EO's you use in your MTG--perhaps if I can mask the smell, when I finally use MTG my husband won't make me move to the guest bedroom!

Regarding the MTG Controversy itself, in all honesty I have not tried MTG. I have a bottle sitting unopened in my closet. I also purchased the stuff to make an "MTG Alternative", which I ended up only using a couple of times. Besides my weekly wash/deep conditioning regiment, and daily/nightly moisturizing conditioning, and wearing protective styles, I am too busy running my practice to spend as much time as I would like to on my hair. Perhaps it would grow longer, faster, if I did.

MTg helped me in several ways.
1. Had it not been for MTG I would never have considered using a sulphur based product on my hair. I refused to use Sulphur 8 because I was afraid it would hurt me, lol. I did not want to use petroleum because I was afraid it would block my pores. But I really longed for thicker, stronger, bigger stranded hair, like a mess of real thick napptural hair that was long, at least to below bra strap unstretched. ALSO I wanted to be able to braid my hair and not worry about damaging it. My hair being very baby fine needed help. Results: My hair has doubled in thickness, actually doubled!!! The fine strands have become about three times as thick. How did that happen. (Well, I used a synergistic combo of MTG, rachet based protein deep conditioner, a pure coconut oil infused with herbs and tsulphur and my leave in is the Original Infusium. I even shampoo with Grandpa's Pine Tar soap.) What has this got to do with MTG? Well, Sulphur was the missing link in my hair care. Proof of the total change in texture is more shrinkage! I can wear twists without it tangling and dreading, and I am able to wear braids without fear of them damaging my hair because the hair was too fine. Yes, my hair is growing....and I have even done a trim. But I believe I can get three inches minimum by the end of the year. Oh and about the smell, I also make my own flowers of sulphur oil. But MTG was the catalyst for all of this. bonjour

 

[CynamonKis]

Chibi I LOVE your hair and hair style--I think my hair wants to be like that when it grows up

actually if anyone hasn't heard..Shapley's are actually getting into the hair care business, My mom spoke to the president of Shapley's and they said they've recieved lots of great comments regarding human hair growth..and they sent my mom a bottle of MTG as a gift and they added lavender oil to make the smell better..and also said that they're working on sellling it to humans..they just have to change a few ingredients

 

[Lebiya]

Has anyone gotten gray hairs from using it?

 

[CynamonKis]

I know I am late but after reading this thread, I made a mixture of MTG, plus MTG substitute using a recipe I got from you, NurseN98, PLUS a few drops of peppermint oil. I put this in an 8 oz bottle and I did not smell the mtg at all. I applied to my scalp, felt a tingle. Will measure my hair growth progress and let y'all know how it works for me.

I CAN say that I did NOT sleep in the guess bedroom last night so I must've masked the MTG smell pretty well...

By the way, the color/sulphur concentration of the mtg substitute was nearly identical to that in the original MTG.

I ain't puttin nothin that smelly on my head ....but I definitely don't begrudge anybody who does use it. It looks like it works very well for a lot of ladies.

 

[motherx2esq]

Has anyone gotten gray hairs from using it?

I have but I rinse my hair black anyway and it covers the gray nicely.

 

[Mahalialee4]

Recipe: Basic: Old MTG Bottle, 2 1/2 -3 full tsps of Flowers of Sulphur, Fill remainder with jojoba, wildgrowth, or a mixture of oils or oils of your choice. It has no odor, but it you prefer a scent, use a drop of Neroli ( terrific) or Grapefruit, or Mandarin essential oils. Neroli is expensive (one of the prescious oils, (about $30 Canadian for an ittybittybottle. YOU CHOOSE YOUR SCENT. Use 3x a week. Anything more may be counter productive or of none affect. hope this helps. bonjour

 

[CynamonKis]

Thank you for posting this I am sure others will benefit as well. This formulation seems even superior to MTG, particularly with the jojoba, which I'm told has many benefits for the scalp. The MTG bottle states it is made of sulphur and "paraffinic distillates".

Recipe: Basic: Old MTG Bottle, 2 1/2 -3 full tsps of Flowers of Sulphur, Fill remainder with jojoba, wildgrowth, or a mixture of oils or oils of your choice. It has no odor, but it you prefer a scent, use a drop of Neroli ( terrific) or Grapefruit, or Mandarin essential oils. Neroli is expensive (one of the prescious oils, (about $30 Canadian for an ittybittybottle. YOU CHOOSE YOUR SCENT. Use 3x a week. Anything more may be counter productive or of none affect. hope this helps. bonjour

 

[texasqt]

The subliminal message I'm getting from this thread ain't telling me to run from MTG, it's telling me - girl you better get ya' some today!!!

Ya'll wrong. Ya'll know this PJ is not strong enough for this!

(BTW, how many bottles do I need for a year?) ;-)

 

[CoCoGirl821]

Haven't used MTG however, i did just purchase a bottle from the internet, I thought I would give it a try. What should I mix it with cause everyone seems to be complaining about the smell?

 

[p31woman]

Haven't used MTG however, i did just purchase a bottle from the internet, I thought I would give it a try. What should I mix it with cause everyone seems to be complaining about the smell?

I don't mix anything with it. I really don't find the smell all that bad but I do however try to sheild my peers and others I come into contact with from the smell. What I do is apply it at night and wrap my hair in my scarf. When I wake up, the smell is diffused. No complaints yet and my hair is growing like weeds!!!

 

[CoCoGirl821]

I don't mix anything with it. I really don't find the smell all that bad but I do however try to sheild my peers and others I come into contact with from the smell. What I do is apply it at night and wrap my hair in my scarf. When I wake up, the smell is diffused. No complaints yet and my hair is growing like weeds!!!

Thanks, I usually wash my hair at night anyway and let it airdry. So I will try that and let you know how it went

 

[angellazette]

I'm still using MTG and will continue to use what I have left. I have a whole bottle of Flowers of Sulphur so I'm going to make my own next.

 

[ChocoKitty]

The subliminal message I'm getting from this thread ain't telling me to run from MTG, it's telling me - girl you better get ya' some today!!!

Ya'll wrong. Ya'll know this PJ is not strong enough for this!

(BTW, how many bottles do I need for a year?) ;-)

I think my first bottle would have lasted me almost a year... I was little heavy handed with it. I put mine in and old Wild Growth Oil bottle now which limits ability to over use it. You really don't need much.

 

[texasqt]

Thanks Chocokitty!
Your hair is BEAUTIFUL TOO!!!
Time to make an order cause I'm sold!