Muslim Women, Please Educate Me On Your Hair...

[brg240]

Naturae you might want to check out Modest Style on lj They list places to buy modest clothing or if they've found something in a regular store that's modest. Some of the posts are locked but if you join the comm you can see them. Also, something is up with the site but you can see past posts if you click archive.

 

[Naturae]

Naturae you might want to check out Modest Style on lj They list places to buy modest clothing or if they've found something in a regular store that's modest. Some of the posts are locked but if you join the comm you can see them. Also, something is up with the site but you can see past posts if you click archive.

Thank you so much. I will check this out when I get home!

 

[RedVelvet310]

I love this thread! My cousin (who converted to Islam) inspired me to wear scarves for a period of time.. I loved the way it looked and I'm thinking of doing it again this year as a PS . I did notice the change in how I presented myself and how others treated me when I had it on

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents and Happy Ramadan to the Muslim ladies

 

[Solitude]

Thank you ladies for sharing. I'm learning a lot.

I remember hearing another woman saying that about her head covering.
Do you work at a salon aimed at Muslim women, a regular salon, or do hair at your or people's houses?


I always wonder about that. I know I should dress modestly as a Christian but I wonder if I should wear a head covering as well. I do know some Christian women do it. I'd have to pray and research before I did that though.

this is a really interesting thread

I go to a very old-fashioned Christian (Baptist) church. We're encouraged to cover our heads, but most women are very resistant to it. I at least wear a Prayer Cap to church services (looks like a doily- doesn't cover like a hijab). It's mostly for the symbolism, IMO. The church tradition to cover our heads is why so many African-American women wear hats to church. Older women at my church also wear full scarves.

But, like I said, the tradition is dying out....I visit different Christian churches and I hardly ever see women's heads covered outside of my own church. Women also wear skirts/dresses to my church.

MashaAllah, I'm so glad hijab brought that change in you. If there's anything non-Muslims need to know about hijab, it's that it's not only about the outerwear.

Even men have to hijab but that's a whole other conversation

I would reallllyyy like to hear more about this!

 

[Striving4perfection86]

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents and Happy Ramadan to the Muslim ladies [/QUOTE]


thank u so much.

 

[sumayamia]

Hi Everyone and As Salaam Alaikum....

I am a certified lurker (for about 2 years) and this is my first official post. I am a Muslimah and just wanted to respond to thread (which is pretty cool BTW, thanks OP). It is really nice to have open, interfaith dialogue...

How covered are you? I do cover everyday; however, I would definitely note that I am not as covered as I believe is appropriate. I cover my hair, generally in a bun scarf at work, and a more draped style on my own time. My neck and arms may or may not be covered on any given day, as it not currently my focus. Inshallah, I will progress to that point in my lifetime. As mentioned, I do believe that modesty is much more than your garments, so I think its appropriate to pay attention to both.

- How is your hair styled underneath? My hair is generally in a bun or some kind of pin up.

- Do your coverings dry your hair out or do they help retain moisture? I just realized that my cotton underscarves (that I wear daily) may be robbing my hair of moisture. So recently I started wearing my satin cap or baggying underneath the underscarf . I am hoping this helps me retain more moisture and protects my ends.

- How much of the day are you uncovered? Generally, only at home...

- Who is allowed to see your hair? Can you show us? Men that I would not be permitted to marry and women...I havent posted pics here as I feel a bit conflicted because you never know who is looking...

- Do you have different hats/scarves for various outfits, accessories? OOOOOH I adore scarves and buy them anywhere I find them. Personally I adore color and patterns, embroidery, etc. I love to coordinate my look with my scarf. It is my ultimate accessory. However, I definitely understand why some sisters choose to stick with much more basic attire. I think we are all striving to be pleasing in the eyes of the Creator and how we define that path varies. I really appreciate how supportive everyone is being as we all are on our different spiritual journeys and it can be quite disheartening and discouraging when people are critical and judgmental.

And yes, I do regularly go to the salon to get my hair done. (And for whatever reason, people always seem so taken aback that I take care of my hair under my scarf, as if its pointless erplexed- but I digress). I have always chosen salons with female stylists only, but as someone mentioned, men do randomly wander in. Recently I just started seeing DontSpeakDeafeat (who is absolutely awesome) in her home salon which is incredibly convenient.

Ramadan Mubarak Ladies!!!!!!!

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

This is a nice post. My friend from Pakistan wears Hijab and her hair is TBL. She would always take her hijab off when she came to my home (when I was single and living alone), or when we were working on projects late at school with our female professor and we knew no one else was coming by the office....She is so cool....

When I used to do Mary Kay I had a young lady who was new to wearing hijab get her facial done at my apartment (once again, when I was single) and she swooped it off the moment she knew I was living alone...

I see so many very fashionable hijabs. The decision to cover by many young ladies who were not raised to cover much (many born and raised here) is not taken lightly. For many women of Islam who were raised less conservatively from what I have seen, it takes much confidence, and it has a lot to do with pride for their religious beliefs...something I respect highly! To me, it seems they feel MORE confident WITH their hijab

At my office I see Muslim couples of varying degrees with respect to covering...I have seen very young couples fresh from Egypt or another part of the Middle East where the wife is covered down to the fingertips...I can only see her eyes and eye makeup...That woman's gloves were beautiful! I have seen a much older couple (yes she was pregnant and in her late 40's) where wife's hair was only covered with a scarf, but her bangs were showing, yet tucked....the couple was so jovial both the wife and husband shook my hands a lot and hugged me a lot....So like many cultures, there is always a difference!

I hope more Muslim Women respond to this post
Thanks OP and respondants!

 

[southerncitygirl]

bumping ladies, there's so much more i'd love to hear & learn!

 

[naturalgyrl5199]

Thank you ladies for sharing. I'm learning a lot.



I go to a very old-fashioned Christian (Baptist) church. We're encouraged to cover our heads, but most women are very resistant to it. I at least wear a Prayer Cap to church services (looks like a doily- doesn't cover like a hijab). It's mostly for the symbolism, IMO. The church tradition to cover our heads is why so many African-American women wear hats to church. Older women at my church also wear full scarves.

But, like I said, the tradition is dying out....I visit different Christian churches and I hardly ever see women's heads covered outside of my own church. Women also wear skirts/dresses to my church.


I would reallllyyy like to hear more about this!

The church I attended when I was single is like that...It may be coming back. The pastor of that church is only in his 30's but was raised traditional Pentacostal...But that church is not associated with any denomination (Hey Christian is Christian!)....But we cover our heads with a prayer doily (dolly...lol) or prayer cap. I would sometimes cover with a nice muted color scarf.....

People don't realize that women covering their hair and dressing modest has middle eastern/ancient origins that pre-date modern religions...You can walk into a Greek Orthodox church today and see women who are covered almost in the manner of a Muslim Women, or walk in a town in Russia and see the same.......and these women are Christians......You can find the same in Israel......Modern thought likes to paint one religion as one thing not understanding that modesty has been a part of human culture for millenia...Even some old greek or roman paintings show women with their hair covered (maybe or may be NOT for modesty)....but I hate hate hate when people try to say Muslim women are FORCED into covering for the wrong reasons....its simply NOT TRUE! There is a lot behind a Muslim woman's decision to wear a Hijab, as covered in the Koran......

 

[naheda72]

- How covered are you? I cover everything except face and hands. My feet are usually covered by garmets rather than socks, so if the wind blows too hard, it may expose my feet.

- How is your hair styled underneath?

Usually in a protective style like twists/braid buns, but if I am going to a sister party, then a sister is extra fly underneath. I don't usually wear out styles as the hijab would look big and resemble a martian head, so I have to wear a style that will lay flat.

- Do your coverings dry your hair out or do they help retain moisture? I try to use silk, but I starting to use a satin cap.

- How much of the day are you uncovered? Like others have said as soon as I step out the house or when unrelated men are over.

- Who is allowed to see your hair? Can you show us?
Husband, women, kids and related men.

- Do you have different hats/scarves for various outfits, accessories?
Yes!!! I wear abayas almost always with matching shaylas(scarves), and I will wear any color that looks good on me, red, pink, black, blue, green, beige, brown, gray, etc. I will not wear orange or yellow, just seems too bright against my skin. I also go shopping for clothes that go underneath my abayas that are trendy and complimentary. A Muslimah should never look frumpy.

 

[divachyk]

Excellent thread and I thank you all for responding. It's such a beautiful thing to have everyone share in the moment without becoming offensive toward another as we all know how well (sarcasm) religious conversations go.

There is a lot behind a Muslim woman's decision to wear a Hijab, as covered in the Koran......

I'm a bit uninformed and kindly ask, why does the faith believe a lady should cover?

 

[Shadiyah]

- How covered are you? I'm completely covered head to toe i also cover my face
- How is your hair styled underneath? I'm bunning at the moment, but most days i do the southern tease bun or jus wet bun.-
Do your coverings dry your hair out or do they help retain moisture? well i put a silk scarf on before i actually put my hijaab (head covering) on.- How much of the day are you uncovered? when im at home I'm uncovered, when i step outside i cover up
Who is allowed to see your hair? Can you show us? family r allowed female friends are allowed, sorry i will not show u.....u never know who's lurking -
Do you have different hats/scarves for various outfits, accessories? no hats loads of scarfs, ez combs and silk accessories....
Last edited by Hikmah1986; Yesterday at 12:29 PM.





I cover the same way and I wear my hair out only in my home and it is usually wet and go but right now I am braiding to get to APL by dec insha Allah.

We cover because it is mandated by Allah in the Quran chapter 33: part 59

 

[Minty]

shadiyah answered.

 

[HennaRo]

This is great thread. My sister and most of her 8 children practice daily. I say it in that manner because some are rebelious and don't cover, pray or fast, but say they are muslim. Like any other religion not everyone follows to a T! Most of her friends are AA, but a couple are hispanic and they all wear hijab's and either bun or let it free!

This is all over the place!

Everyone has dry hair, except for the few that have stopped using sls, mineral oil, etc.
When my sister went to Saudi Arabia she had all kinds of scarves and hijabs but since she came back I think the mosque here sells some things. Nothing is form fitted, can't really see a good outline of figures. Very few cover there faces and if they do they usually wear all black(even in FL!). The kids wear all kinds of color, sometimes jeans long sleeve shirts with a hijab....some wear whatever mom wears. Some of my sisters friends uncover in front of our dad and that's only because were all sort of family! Her new husbands family lives in Morocco from what I've seen they are not that strict at all, but most at least cover there heads. Hmm I wonder when she's going to fly back to morroco.

 

[ida2]

Thank you ladies for sharing. I'm learning a lot.



I go to a very old-fashioned Christian (Baptist) church. We're encouraged to cover our heads, but most women are very resistant to it. I at least wear a Prayer Cap to church services (looks like a doily- doesn't cover like a hijab). It's mostly for the symbolism, IMO. The church tradition to cover our heads is why so many African-American women wear hats to church. Older women at my church also wear full scarves.

But, like I said, the tradition is dying out....I visit different Christian churches and I hardly ever see women's heads covered outside of my own church. Women also wear skirts/dresses to my church.



I would reallllyyy like to hear more about this!

It's not just an American tradition, it also an caribbean tradition the church I attend is a Jamaican and we also cover ours heads when we are pray as well or have anything to do with the service. I have broken out of the that practice I must start doing that again, but on a side note I had never seen pastor without a hat on head unless she is home. We dress very modestly or at least I try to giving what is in the stores now a days.

 

[DeenIsFirst]

Great thread! As Salamu Alaikum!

How covered are you?
I cover everything except my hands and face, and sometimes I wear sandals. I wear jilbabs, dresses, skirts, and pants. All are long and loose.
How is your hair styled underneath?
I went natural in '07 so since then, mostly braids. If there's a special occasion where only females will be present, then I may flat iron, twist-out or do some other style. I try to do most of my moisturizing/sealing at night to avoid the embarrassing scarf oil stain.
Do your coverings dry your hair out or do they help retain moisture?
They used to dry out my hair because I didn't realize the cotton shouldn't be worn directly on my hair. After joining LHCF I discovered the need to wear a satin cap underneath.
How much of the day are you uncovered?
I'm covered when I go outside of the house and/or when males are around (non-family members). I don't cover when at friend's house or at sisters' parties.
Who is allowed to see your hair? Can you show us?
Females, family members, brothers, uncles, father. I can't post hair pics on here because anyone could be on here
Do you have different hats/scarves for various outfits, accessories?
I have a ridiculous amount of scarves. I love to color coordinate! I get most of them at Islamic conferences because of the good deals and the ability to test/feel the material.

When I had my curly perm, I would go to the salon and ask that no males come into that section. The stylists usually agreed and then a male would sneak back there and the stylist would not do a thing. Some stylists were respectful of my wishes though. Anyway, that got old! So I'm glad to say I haven't been to a salon in years and have learned to do it all myself (alhamdulillah).

Although I'm not Nation of Islam, I know some people that were. They are generally pro-black but in recent years, many NOI masjids have adopted more orthodox beliefs and practices. They have made improvements with the influence of some new leaders.

 

[Shadiyah]

Oh, another thing...are you relaxed or natural, and do you go to salons or mainly care for your hair at home? Do they have special salons for Muslim women only where you live? Sound like a good business idea if they don't.

I am natural and we do have many muslims women that do hair and have some salons open. There can not be any open windows to the public and no men.

 

[5aliji7elwati]

Oh, another thing...are you relaxed or natural, and do you go to salons or mainly care for your hair at home?

****I relax my hair once in a while. It could be once every other year, once a year, or I might just want straight hair and relax it on a whim. I do my hair myself, my mom does it, or I will allow Muslim women from certain countries with certain hair types to do my hair.

Do they have special salons for Muslim women only where you live? Sound like a good business idea if they don't.

*****I live in a place called "Yemen Town", so yes there are salons

What age do things change?

*******For covering? Menstruation.

I haven't seen babies or very young girls in hijab's, is that just because of of their age or have I just not seen them?

******I have, and it bugs me. It disgusts me to see children in hijab because putting a child in a hijab is the same thing as putting a child in full pagent regalia. Hijab = sexual maturity. I don't like seeing parents parade their children as being sexually mature. If a child wants to dress up, like most children do because they want to imitate their mothers, they should do so at home in my opinion. And per the Quran's orders which is far more important than anything else.

Also at what age does a women wear mostly black?

****** I am Omani by blood...Aramco brat by culture...so black is a cultural thing. Plus it's the cheapest most easy to find color. Colorful garments usually either are lower quality, or cost more. True Saudi or Saloona Crepe only comes in black anything else is imitation Japanese polyester.

Are you allowed to cut your hair short, are any ladies rocking a short Hallie do underneath?

I personally do not believe a woman should cut a significant amount of hair from her head unless it's at hajj.

 

[Missjae09]

Just wanted to say thanks to all of you ladies to decided to share your beliefs, shed some light and spread some knowledge for those of us who had no idea but had only heard bits and pieces of info here and there.

 

[AlliCat]

I never knew there were so many Muslims on the board. I learned a lot from this thread, very interesting! Seems the Hijab is the ultimate protective style

 

[sleepflower]

I have a question...

Are the coverings already fashioned in a way where you just slip them on, or are they closer to large sheets of fabrics that you must fold before putting it on?

I ask because seeing that some women here wear slippery-type fabric under their coverings, plus knowing how much the head naturally moves, and even knowing how my own clothes slip when I have a bookbag or purse on my shoulders makes me curious as to how they are secured but still comfortable. There are a lot of Muslim women here and I have never seen one whose coverings look sloppy, or about to fall off, or even have signs they were re-adjusted.

This is also off-topic, but the only time I have seen entire families (regardless of day of the week/time of day) on campus, they were Muslim. I have seen this in Texas, and here in Louisiana. Since I do not assume non-Muslim couples are necessarily married, I will not assume the same of any Muslim woman walking with a man, but there really are times where I think a Muslim couple are attending school together, or one person is in school and their spouse perhaps waits for them. (It could be that the waiting person simply works at a different time, but I am just curious as to why I see this much more with Muslim couples/families.) Is this all a major coincidence, or is there something in the faith or culture that allows for or requires this?

Sorry for the questions. The one time I could ask a Muslim woman about "Muslim things" my friends implied I was being rude and ignorant (which I understand, because sometimes people ask these questions to mock ), and I am not about to run up to strangers and ask.

 

[5aliji7elwati]

I have a question...

Are the coverings already fashioned in a way where you just slip them on, or are they closer to large sheets of fabrics that you must fold before putting it on?

I ask because seeing that some women here wear slippery-type fabric under their coverings, plus knowing how much the head naturally moves, and even knowing how my own clothes slip when I have a bookbag or purse on my shoulders makes me curious as to how they are secured but still comfortable. There are a lot of Muslim women here and I have never seen one whose coverings look sloppy, or about to fall off, or even have signs they were re-adjusted.

This is also off-topic, but the only time I have seen entire families (regardless of day of the week/time of day) on campus, they were Muslim. I have seen this in Texas, and here in Louisiana. Since I do not assume non-Muslim couples are necessarily married, I will not assume the same of any Muslim woman walking with a man, but there really are times where I think a Muslim couple are attending school together, or one person is in school and their spouse perhaps waits for them. (It could be that the waiting person simply works at a different time, but I am just curious as to why I see this much more with Muslim couples/families.) Is this all a major coincidence, or is there something in the faith or culture that allows for or requires this?

Sorry for the questions. The one time I could ask a Muslim woman about "Muslim things" my friends implied I was being rude and ignorant (which I understand, because sometimes people ask these questions to mock ), and I am not about to run up to strangers and ask.

Most Muslims are extremely private. Like there is just certain things I don't ask or discuss publicly. Like I would never speak about my husband or children publicly, if people ask I just say Elhamdulillah which is essentially saying everything is up to the will of Allah and all my praises and thanks go to Him. Good, bad, regular, etc I'd never discuss certain things. I would never invite anyone into my bedroom, either. Or if they ask certain questions I respectfully smile and change the subject.

There's a billion styles of hijab. Some slip on, some are pre styled to look like they are wrapped and pinned but they're slip on. I don't like those kind Some are one piece, two pieces, three pieces, it all depends.

I am a sheyla girl, 100% lol. Mine are huge chiffon, silk, and crepe rectangles that I can fashion however I like. Actually a big style is that loose effortless look that looks sloppy but isn't. Like hijab bed-head lol.

As for the Muslims who intermingle with the opposite sex...they are not supposed to do that if they're not related or married. If they do, shame on them and I hope they are guided to doing the right thing.

 

[Mrs. N Lugo]

Cool thread and thanks to all the Muslim ladies for educating me.

Before I became a SAHM one of my co-workers was Muslim and she wore mostly beaded coverings in various soft colors. She was AA and she covered her hair, neck, and ears.

I hope the NOI ladies post. They might feel uncomfortable since some strong opinions have been expressed.

I know a few people in the NOI and I absolutely adore them and I think they are just as much Muslim as anyone else. Just had to add that.

 

[Minty]

Most women in The Nation wear buns, turbans, tie backs or nothing. Some of the old school ladies wear a square scarf that they pin in the back of their heads.

 

[5aliji7elwati]

Cool thread and thanks to all the Muslim ladies for educating me.

Before I became a SAHM one of my co-workers was Muslim and she wore mostly beaded coverings in various soft colors. She was AA and she covered her hair, neck, and ears.

I hope the NOI ladies post. They might feel uncomfortable since some strong opinions have been expressed.

I know a few people in the NOI and I absolutely adore them and I think they are just as much Muslim as anyone else. Just had to add that.

They're not Muslim. Some of them are extremely nice people, but according to the Quran and Hadith they are not Muslim. It has nothing to do with personal opinion. The Kalimaat Shahada makes a person Muslim and their actions from that point on keep them in or take them out of Islam.

Imagine if a Christian person who believes that Jesus is their personal Lord and Savior were to have someone come along a few decades ago and say that Jesus was really awesome and perfect, but that "Carmine" is Jesus too and that if you don't hold "Carmine" to the same height of worship as God or admiration as Jesus, that you are not a Christian. It's more than what you think it is...trust me. The differences.

Maybe there should be a separate thread for the hair issues, and then the cultural issues or Islam as a religion questions?

 

[vainღ♥♡jane]

so who is gonna me a Muslim thread in OT? i would love to read through that. ♥

 

[Minty]

beautifully stated 5aliji7elwati

 

[curlicarib]

They're not Muslim. Some of them are extremely nice people, but according to the Quran and Hadith they are not Muslim. It has nothing to do with personal opinion. The Kalimaat Shahada makes a person Muslim uand their actions from that point on keep them in or take them out of Islam.

Imagine if a Christian person who believes that Jesus is their personal Lord and Savior were to have someone come along a few decades ago and say that Jesus was really awesome and perfect, but that "Carmine" is Jesus too and that if you don't hold "Carmine" to the same height of worship as God or admiration as Jesus, that you are not a Christian. It's more than what you think it is...trust me. The differences.

Maybe there should be a separate thread for the hair issues, and then the cultural issues or Islam as a religion questions?

I agree wholeheartedly. As a child growing up in Trinidad, I was exposed to Islam as both a religion and a culture. When I realized what the NOI was teaching, I was astounded, frankly. Not knocking them and no disrespect intended, but, their teachings would be the equivalent of, say, the Mormon teachings in Christianity. By that I mean......john smith IS NOT equivalent to Jesus and elijah mohammed IS NOT equivalent to Mohammed.

 

[msginalynn]

I'm not muslim but my religion does require me to wear headcoverings.

- How covered are you? Im usually covered from the hairline to the crown of the head. So most of the time the length of my hair usally shows.

- How is your hair styled underneath? usually is in twists but most recently in a bun or different variations of a bun, and in the hair zing.

- Do your coverings dry your hair out or do they help retain moisture? Because i change my scarves often i usually get dried out. but baggying takes care of that.

- How much of the day are you uncovered? I'm usually covered whenever i leave the house. In my house i dont wear it.

- Who is allowed to see your hair? Can you show us?
Family, females, no men. Nah I cant show you guys, there might me Menz around.

- Do you have different hats/scarves for various outfits, accessories? Do I! I have an entire space saver jumbo bag full of different scarves, not to mention the side bag of hats and how my sisters have there own totes full as well! Sometimes the right headcovering makes all the difference.

 

[ida2]

Most Muslims are extremely private. Like there is just certain things I don't ask or discuss publicly. Like I would never speak about my husband or children publicly, if people ask I just say Elhamdulillah which is essentially saying everything is up to the will of Allah and all my praises and thanks go to Him. Good, bad, regular, etc I'd never discuss certain things. I would never invite anyone into my bedroom, either. Or if they ask certain questions I respectfully smile and change the subject.

There's a billion styles of hijab. Some slip on, some are pre styled to look like they are wrapped and pinned but they're slip on. I don't like those kind Some are one piece, two pieces, three pieces, it all depends.

I am a sheyla girl, 100% lol. Mine are huge chiffon, silk, and crepe rectangles that I can fashion however I like. Actually a big style is that loose effortless look that looks sloppy but isn't. Like hijab bed-head lol.

As for the Muslims who intermingle with the opposite sex...they are not supposed to do that if they're not related or married. If they do, shame on them and I hope they are guided to doing the right thing.

Cool thread and thanks to all the Muslim ladies for educating me.

What is shelya? When I goggled shelya all I got was the lady with 2000cc implants.