The orginal Fine hair thread 2013

[yodie]

yodie, did you go to a salon for this treatment or did you DIY? Thanks.

I originally brought a sample of the Arosci brand online and tried it myself. I only did a section of my hair to gauge how the treatment worked. it worked well, no breakage. I called Design Essentials and found a stylist that did the treatment. It was a great decision for me.

 

[Bublin]

QUESTION....
I asked in a bss today for Nexxus Emergency. They told me the bottle had changed and handed me -
Polymedic Emergency Reconstructor by Nexxus.
Is this the right stuff? It's in a blue bottle and comes in 2 different sizes.

 

[Soratachi]

Fine haired SL lady in here.

I am still figuring some little stuff out but I must say that I got to a point where I should be able to finally go beyond SL. In the meantime let me list what I know about my hair.

The steamer is my best friend, it makes my hair so soft and moisturised for days I only need to rub a very small amount of HE LTR (BE in the UK & Ireland) leave in every 2 days and I am good to go.

Using lanolin as a heavy sealer is what helped my hair despite some harsh handling method. It also softens the strands and provide protection from the elements (Ireland is very windy).

My double row detangling comb is my best friend, it pulls out all the shed hair without damaging my strands as the Denman brush did(the Denman is the devil not for me unless my hair is blowdried).

A prepoo with coconut oil is a most before I start on my weekly hair care routine, 10 minutes with plastic cap under the dryer is good enough.

The wash routine most be done is sections with sulfate free shampoo and once every 2 months I use a sulfate one the get rid of build up and and chelate (ORS Creamy Aloe).

My hair loves protein like no other so I DC, weekly, with a protein and moisture mix conditioner, I also use ceramides in my DC mix in the form of sunflower oil.


At the moment I am planning on getting a sulfur mix for faster growth.

 

[quirkydimples]

QUESTION....
I asked in a bss today for Nexxus Emergency. They told me the bottle had changed and handed me -
Polymedic Emergency Reconstructor by Nexxus.
Is this the right stuff? It's in a blue bottle and comes in 2 different sizes.

I just ordered this from Amazon and from what I've read the other version is watered down and the polymedic version is closer to the original formula.

 

[yodie]

QUESTION....
I asked in a bss today for Nexxus Emergency. They told me the bottle had changed and handed me -
Polymedic Emergency Reconstructor by Nexxus.
Is this the right stuff? It's in a blue bottle and comes in 2 different sizes.

Same thing happened with me. I was told this was the professional version. Not sure if that's correct, but it's what i used.

 

[tapioca_pudding]

coolsista-paris - I had a great experience with the BKT no regrets. I had a bit of shedding the first week or so but after that I was fine. It's not like a relaxer, but the "touch up" is basically a gentler treatment just to give me a boost of frizz fighting for the summer. Everyone has different results with how much curl pattern they retain, how long the treatment lasts (it's not permanent), etc. My natural pattern is 3b/3c. In the 3b areas I'm like a 2/3a or something now. My 3c areas are 3b now.

I feel like the actual application process was rough on my fine hair (because you have to comb through very small sections with a fine tooth comb to get the product through and flat iron on high heat) so I *may* consider doing my next treatment myself now that I know the process.

As far as if I'm considered natural or something else... I don't particularly buy into what other people consider me lol. I'm 100% natural with a BKT as far as I'm concerned. Everyone else and their opinion can kick rocks As long as it's healthy and long, I'm good.

So for me it was a great decision. Everyone is different so you kinda have to see for yourself. I don't bash other treatments etc just because they didn't work for me.

If you try it let us know!

Off to order seamless combs...

 

[Blairx0]

My fine hair loves cassia

 

[coolsista-paris]

No one has mentioned whether they have tried henna or cassia. I used to use henna long ago. I had a perm then one or two times when I used to hot comb. So far never on my virgin hair. Loved the colors, hated the mess. Really tempted for the strengthening effect its suppose to give. I wonder if it could help reduce the spider web effect of my wispy hair.

i use henna every now and then. i used to hate it. thé rinsing out is sooooo long and à mess!

BUT,i found my solution. adding oil helps à LOT!

i use neutral henna,no colour. i add and egg or 2,olive oil,amla powder or thé amla oil.
i make sûre thé mixture looks moisturizing and not making crums,like its all smooth.

as there is oil,it strenthens + moisturizes and its wayyyyyy easier to rinse out when there is oil.

;-)

 

[coolsista-paris]

i do but USE AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF CAUTION it helps somewhat. Henna is extremely drying.

add lots of oil. it will strenthen + moisturize.

 

[coolsista-paris]

Also, I only once had the henna drying effect.

I found mixing it with distilled water and only using pure body art quality is actually somewhat moisturizing. Not that stuff that has shikakai and amla mixed in already. Shikakai is also drying. A shikakai, amla, henna mix is best washed out at 3 hours or less, IMHO.

Some folks mix henna with the wrong conditioners--conditioners that contain protein!!! and leave that on for 6 hours or overnight. Yikes! What they call drying is probably protein overload. I did it ONCE (with coffee). Never had that issue again.

lool. ive already mixed mine with reconstructor. i had no problem. of course i added oil as usual .

i left it on only 2 hours though

 

[coolsista-paris]

I learned earlier this year that I cannot stretch for long periods of time. I ended a six-month stretch in January and had to cut my nape to just above shoulder length.

Great tips here. I periodically use ApHogee 2-minute (when I remember), but may give Nexxus Emergencee or Joico a try. I bun almost everyday and wonder if that's hindering my retention. My ends are rather scraggly even though I oil the scrunchies and ms my ends. I even use good hair day pins and spin pins, but I'm not sure what else to do to my hair. I'm a super low-maintenance person. I do twist-outs sometimes, but even that's a hassle because I can't achieve second-day hair.

Anyone here wet bun regularly with success? I just did this last night and my hair feels so good right now, but most of the posts I've read say it's a no-no for those with fine hair. Maybe I should try what you do and wear loose ponytails? I am, unfortunately, one those people who actually likes wearing buns.

i also like putting hair in à bun. besides i have to for work. i also wonder if thats killing my retention . i find pieces of hair on thé hairband
:-(

 

[coolsista-paris]

Any fine ladies use nexxus emergencee?

id love to know too. i wanted to try it out

i use apoghee 2 min and i needs reconstructor with lots of slip !

 

[Bublin]

coolsista-paris

I've mentioned before that I only use satin scrunchies in my hair. Those thin elastics are hair suicide for our fine hair. Guaranteed I will have broken hairs if I happen to wear one and my hair is all tangled in it. Admittedly you won't get the tension with a satin scrunchie but that is something that I put with.

Another product I use, but more on my daughter are these (see link). They are like elastic ribbon hair ties and they are also marketed to wear on your wrist! Other brands make them too. I tried googling the brand I have but they didn't come up.
You can actually make your own by using elastic binding found in a haberdashery, just cut to your desired length and tie the ends.

GOODY OUCHLESS RIBBON ELASTICS
http://www.goody.com/Products/Hair_Accessories/Ouchless_Ribbon_Elastics

Sephora also sell them

SEPHORA COLLECTION Ribbon Hair Ties
http://answers.sephora.com/answers/8723/product/P291417/questions.htm?expandquestion=468419

What it is:A set of eight no-tug hair ties. What it does:Fun, functional, and perfect for a quick ponytail, these no-tug hair ties are comfortable and won't leave creases in your hair. Great to throw in your purse, gym bag, or travel case, take these anywhere to ensure that you always have a hair tie with you when you need one.

Here is a link on how to make them
http://glossymusings.com/2012/09/19/diy-ribbon-elastic-hair-ties-and-giveaway/

 

[trinity8mod8]

Bublin I use satin scrunchies and those elastic ponytail holders too. I got mine from Etsy

 

[Bublin]

Bublin I use satin scrunchies and those elastic ponytail holders too. I got mine from Etsy

trinity8mod8
Wowsa...so many colours...so many to choose from
Are the sparkly ones smooth or rough feeling?

 

[coolsista-paris]

Thank you for this thread! I am a fine haired natural with very kinky hair (4b/4cish). I don't have a coil or curl pattern it looks more like a squiggly line or kinky waves. My hair is super fragile. I am also low porosity. My density is medium/thick on top and thinner on the sides and in the back.

I call my hair a High Maintenance DIVA!!!! She has to be exclusively finger detangled, has to be stretched or she'll tangle from the root to the ends, she has to be moisturized but can't just take all moisture, she also has to have protein but only certain products work, and the list goes on-LOL!

I've managed to retain a good amount of length. I'm currently MBL and hopefully I'll hit waist length by the end of summer/early fall. I'm still learning my hair but the key thing for me has been giving up combs completely. What makes finger detangling bearable and also serves as a protective style is keeping it stretched in cornrows. For the past couple of years, I've been on a cornrow regimen. All washing, conditioning, etc...gets done on braided/stretched hair. When it's time to take them down in 6 weeks, I take them down one at a time, finger detangle, and re-do one by one as I go. When I feel like it I will wear my hair out which is probably every couple of months and not for long maybe a week or two at most.

EVEN WITH ALL of my Pampering and gentle handling-I'll still see little broken hairs when I manipulate it. I've come to terms that I am never going to have a finger detangling session with all shed hairs and no breakage because of the nature of my hair.

Right now I'm nervous because I'm in a new protective style (mini braids). I'm noticing a lot more split ends! I didn't have an issue with split ends my first couple years natural but now that I'm nearing the end of the third year natural, I feel like they are popping up all over the place. Even though my hair is in mini braids, I'm keeping the ends tucked under so I don't know guys....I want to get to waist length but if I have to keep cutting my ends I don't know if I am going to make it there as planned.

do you use extensions to cornrow?

 

[trinity8mod8]

Bublin Yeah there are like hundreds of listings for those elastics there. I didn't try the sparkly ones yet, but yeah the variety is awesome lol

 

[coolsista-paris]

Check out Design Essentials Strengthening Treatment. My hair will break at the drop of a dime. BKT didn't work for my find strands and relaxers spell disaster. The DE treatment keeps the frizz out of my hair and allows me to wear straight styles without compromising my curl pattern. No breakage at all. I've actually been able to retain some length because my strands are much stronger with treatment. I also don't need to do protein treatments, etc. The system is Amino Acid based.

Just throwing out a suggestion.

this is interesting.
so this DE is not à bkt?

à.bkt here costs like 300 euros !!! in à salon. it broke my hubby's cousins hair. she was mbl it all broke ! :-/ damn i would cry .

 

[trinity8mod8]

Here are some pics of my protective style today with a satin scrunchie:







It looks like a regular bun in the front, and flat twisted in the back. Just trying new styles lol.

Here's another one:

 

[yodie]

^^^ No, the DE treatment isn't a BKT. BKT made my hair very thin and shed a tiny bit. Didn't like it at all.

 

[coolsista-paris]

coolsista-paris - I had a great experience with the BKT no regrets. I had a bit of shedding the first week or so but after that I was fine. It's not like a relaxer, but the "touch up" is basically a gentler treatment just to give me a boost of frizz fighting for the summer. Everyone has different results with how much curl pattern they retain, how long the treatment lasts (it's not permanent), etc. My natural pattern is 3b/3c. In the 3b areas I'm like a 2/3a or something now. My 3c areas are 3b now.

I feel like the actual application process was rough on my fine hair (because you have to comb through very small sections with a fine tooth comb to get the product through and flat iron on high heat) so I *may* consider doing my next treatment myself now that I know the process.

As far as if I'm considered natural or something else... I don't particularly buy into what other people consider me lol. I'm 100% natural with a BKT as far as I'm concerned. Everyone else and their opinion can kick rocks As long as it's healthy and long, I'm good.

So for me it was a great decision. Everyone is different so you kinda have to see for yourself. I don't bash other treatments etc just because they didn't work for me.

If you try it let us know!

Off to order seamless combs...

and you are right. dont care about what others think of you. do your thang love your hair and thats it.

i am so scared of the bkt but i really wanna try it out.

if i do....i will let you know.

ive come to à point where i sometimes feel like cutting back to sl in order to track thé split ends better... and have more retention . but im à scaredy cat at loosing my length ! lol

 

[Jewell]

i use henna every now and then. i used to hate it. thé rinsing out is sooooo long and à mess!

BUT,i found my solution. adding oil helps à LOT!

i use neutral henna,no colour. i add and egg or 2,olive oil,amla powder or thé amla oil.
i make sûre thé mixture looks moisturizing and not making crums,like its all smooth.

as there is oil,it strenthens + moisturizes and its wayyyyyy easier to rinse out when there is oil.

;-)

So true! This is what I do when I use henna, indigo, or other Ayurvedic pastes...add a tiny bit of water, then add coconut milk, oil, and sometimes greek yogurt or lemon juice. I have a couple recipes for henna and powders that I alternate.

Used to be unable to rinse all the powders from my hair, no matter how much I rinsed, but when I began adding oils to my mixes, it only took one water rinse followed by one lather of shampoo to remove it. Now I can use my powders more often, whereas before I barely applied them because they were hell to get out of my hair (used to have gritty particles left behind). Im so happy I found a solution to it because applying the powders as pastes works MUCH better than just making a tea from them. The effect on the hair is more substantial with a paste, imo.

I actually did a brahmi paste today with oils added and it washed out super easy.

 

[Jewell]

Oh yeah, I have fine strands mixed with normal strands, and my hair loves protein. I never get protein overload. I've been able to retain all I grow through protective styles (mostly buns), air drying, stretching relaxers, using only mild relaxers, texlaxing instead of relaxing bone straight, no direct heat usage, and staying out of hair salons and away from stylists. I moisturize and seal daily and only comb on wash day...usually once or twice a week. I do my hair myself...I trim and relax it on my own, as well as color it when needed. Complete DIY'er here.

 

[SunRai Naturals]

do you use extensions to cornrow?[/QUOTE]
coolsista-paris

No I use my own hair. I did not want to use extensions because I wanted to be able to leave them in for a while and also have full access to my hair to care for it.

 

[Vintagecoilylocks]

So true! This is what I do when I use henna, indigo, or other Ayurvedic pastes...add a tiny bit of water, then add coconut milk, oil, and sometimes greek yogurt or lemon juice. I have a couple recipes for henna and powders that I alternate.

Used to be unable to rinse all the powders from my hair, no matter how much I rinsed, but when I began adding oils to my mixes, it only took one water rinse followed by one lather of shampoo to remove it. Now I can use my powders more often, whereas before I barely applied them because they were hell to get out of my hair (used to have gritty particles left behind). Im so happy I found a solution to it because applying the powders as pastes works MUCH better than just making a tea from them. The effect on the hair is more substantial with a paste, imo.

I actually did a brahmi paste today with oils added and it washed out super easy.

This is good to hear. I was alittle apprhensive due to my length to ever try henna again.

 

[coolsista-paris]

So true! This is what I do when I use henna, indigo, or other Ayurvedic pastes...add a tiny bit of water, then add coconut milk, oil, and sometimes greek yogurt or lemon juice. I have a couple recipes for henna and powders that I alternate.

Used to be unable to rinse all the powders from my hair, no matter how much I rinsed, but when I began adding oils to my mixes, it only took one water rinse followed by one lather of shampoo to remove it. Now I can use my powders more often, whereas before I barely applied them because they were hell to get out of my hair (used to have gritty particles left behind). Im so happy I found a solution to it because applying the powders as pastes works MUCH better than just making a tea from them. The effect on the hair is more substantial with a paste, imo.

I actually did a brahmi paste today with oils added and it washed out super easy.

So true! This is what I do when I use henna, indigo, or other Ayurvedic pastes...add a tiny bit of water, then add coconut milk, oil, and sometimes greek yogurt or lemon juice. I have a couple recipes for henna and powders that I alternate.

Used to be unable to rinse all the powders from my hair, no matter how much I rinsed, but when I began adding oils to my mixes, it only took one water rinse followed by one lather of shampoo to remove it. Now I can use my powders more often, whereas before I barely applied them because they were hell to get out of my hair (used to have gritty particles left behind). Im so happy I found a solution to it because applying the powders as pastes works MUCH better than just making a tea from them. The effect on the hair is more substantial with a paste, imo.

I actually did a brahmi paste today with oils added and it washed out super easy.

yeah and oil in henna totally stops dryness.
my hair is never dry .

the first times i did henna it dried out my hair.

oils are great!

 

[coolsista-paris]

i wanted to share my expérience with these products :

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the left bottle is franck provost ceramid condit ( great slip+ moisturizes ) about 4 or 6 euros.



the shampoo (green bottle) is garnier fructis , strenthening shampoo,pure shine. fights against hard water. has no silicon,paraben ,no color .
it does not dry hair out! its also like 3euros.




sorry its not the right way . :-(

 

[coolsista-paris]

loreal. this one reacts as if im doing à protein treatment.
it has keratine and ceramids. it has good slip too. it cost me 3 euros. loved it.

it says reconstructing condit . it Well does strengthen my hair !

 

[mshoneyfly]

i am going to start leaving some texture in my hair instead of relaxing it bone straight.

shortdub
doing this is currently taking my hair to the next level. I use a texture softener but the same can be done with your regular relaxer. I love seeing and feeling the waves at my roots.

I did a henna gloss on freshly relaxed hair and it took away some of the curl pattern but I plan to do amla gloss to bring it back

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[HairPleezeGrow]

Well ladies I dc'd my hair with mix if Wen Pom, SD vanilla, Macadamia reconstructor bc I only had a little in ear jar. I flat iron my fine strands on low and made a sock bun. Its a wimpy bun but its there. Sorry for the sideways pics and I have a lot of gray hair lol.