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unable to do wet twist outs?
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DarkJoy
Bent. Not Broken.
thanks for the pic and product list. It gives us a better framework to work with.
Chiiiiile, you got fine strands. Mine looks exactly like that when I do 'box style' twist outs. A hot hot mess
Try a flat twist out. For us with the fine straggly strands it gives better definition. Also use a heavy heavy butter like shea. If you're a grease user use that instead (it gives hold for DAYS). Gels and creams are kind of a joke with our hair type. Took me six months to figure that out
Also, I do mine on half dry to fully dry hair. Soaking wet and it's too straight looking. You'll have to experiment with moisture levels for the optimum look you're going for.
Chiiiiile, you got fine strands. Mine looks exactly like that when I do 'box style' twist outs. A hot hot mess
Try a flat twist out. For us with the fine straggly strands it gives better definition. Also use a heavy heavy butter like shea. If you're a grease user use that instead (it gives hold for DAYS). Gels and creams are kind of a joke with our hair type. Took me six months to figure that out
Also, I do mine on half dry to fully dry hair. Soaking wet and it's too straight looking. You'll have to experiment with moisture levels for the optimum look you're going for.
daae
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thanks for the pic and product list. It gives us a better framework to work with.
Chiiiiile, you got fine strands. Mine looks exactly like that when I do 'box style' twist outs. A hot hot mess
Try a flat twist out. For us with the fine straggly strands it gives better definition. Also use a heavy heavy butter like shea. If you're a grease user use that instead (it gives hold for DAYS). Gels and creams are kind of a joke with our hair type. Took me six months to figure that out
ok thanks!
I already cornrow it to get the little definition i do have
DarkJoy
Bent. Not Broken.
Do you whip it yourself?
I do my own mixed with cocoa butter to make it denser. Too much air and it's a joke and still comes out crazy. It's just not thick enough. I keep it 'grease thick'. Sometimes, I'll just dig straight into the container and melt in in my fingers, and apply it to my hair while it's soaking wet. Then let it air dry to where I now know it's at its best for flat twisting. No other product. THen just twist.
I do my own mixed with cocoa butter to make it denser. Too much air and it's a joke and still comes out crazy. It's just not thick enough. I keep it 'grease thick'. Sometimes, I'll just dig straight into the container and melt in in my fingers, and apply it to my hair while it's soaking wet. Then let it air dry to where I now know it's at its best for flat twisting. No other product. THen just twist.
Froreal3
haulin hard in the paint
DarkJoy I totally agree. I may be able to wear a twist out for a few hours.
I found that the product can't have any glycerin whatsoever as well.
daae, I don't twist on wet hair. It has to be slightly damp, maybe about 75% dry. Otherwise it will immediately poof just like yours. I sometimes twist with grease and it comes out decent but won't last the entire day entirely defined. It will poof just a bit.
I found that the product can't have any glycerin whatsoever as well.
daae, I don't twist on wet hair. It has to be slightly damp, maybe about 75% dry. Otherwise it will immediately poof just like yours. I sometimes twist with grease and it comes out decent but won't last the entire day entirely defined. It will poof just a bit.
Froreal3
haulin hard in the paint
^^ I also do what @Nap suggested. It helps with definition, but I still get some swelling/poof. 
ETA: daae, any regular ol' grease. I use some that has no petrolatum...don't need that in my hair. After moisturizing with a leave in, I add a little to heavy seal my ends. I twist with it to add some weight and shine to my hair since it is so poofalicious.
ETA: daae, any regular ol' grease. I use some that has no petrolatum...don't need that in my hair. After moisturizing with a leave in, I add a little to heavy seal my ends. I twist with it to add some weight and shine to my hair since it is so poofalicious.
daae
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HairPleezeGrow
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daae. I think she means for regular twists not flat twists. For two strand twists try twisting the strands first while you are twisting them around each other and that helps give more definition. You've gotten some good advice. I have fine strands and the ORS worked well for me. I tend to do twistouts on damp or dry hair though. I haven't perfected it yet but it's very much so wearable lol. The Pink Stuff from Hairitage Hydration gives some slight weight to my hair for twists. Hydroquench's Puttyful is another good "gel" like product that works but it's a soft hold. Also I find with my twistouts I generally have to retwist at night to keep them looking good to my liking and it helps stretch the hair as well. I don't apply extra products, I just retwist at night.
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miss stress
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My dd's hair is the same way. I gave up on twist outs and do braid and curls instead it comes out so much better for her. I also do what another poster said and not use a holding product but instead use a heavy butter or even products with a high wax content if I have it.
Pompous Blue
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daae
I’m natural, 4CZ, very fine with medium density hair.
My flat twist routine on WET hair:
Myhoneychild.com – Type 4 hair cream
Seal with Argan oil (I’m only using this to use it up.) You can seal with any oil but make sure it’s a light coating.
Flat Twist with any of the following gels:
Ouidad.com – Climate Control heat and humidity gel (the best so far no matter the time of the year.)
unclefunkysdaughter.com – Curly magic (best during cooler months – Fall, Winter, Spring – I’m in Florida)
Style lasts 3 days. By the 3rd day my hair is poofier but the definition is still there.
What I find works for me is a heavy leave-in, seal with oil and use gel. Hair milk as a leave-in does not work for me (not enough moisture.) And not all gels have enough hold.
Other leave-ins that work for my type hair:
Myhoneychild.com – Honey hair cream
Mariedeanonline. – Apricot Mango leave-in conditioner
Karenbodybeautiful.com – Creamylicious
I’ve also had success with these holding products:
Curlprep.com – Sweet buttah
Entwinecouture.com – Jelle
Curljunkie.com – Pattern Pusha
These only give me one, sometimes 2-day hair if there’s low humidity.
I’ve tried a myriad of leave-in and styling products to find the combination that works for my hair. But one thing that is a constant, I must use a heavy leave-in to get any definition out of the gel.
And to combat build-up, I clarify my hair once a week with bentonite or rhassoul clay. I never have a waxy feeling and my DC always works.
HTH
I’m natural, 4CZ, very fine with medium density hair.
My flat twist routine on WET hair:
Myhoneychild.com – Type 4 hair cream
Seal with Argan oil (I’m only using this to use it up.) You can seal with any oil but make sure it’s a light coating.
Flat Twist with any of the following gels:
Ouidad.com – Climate Control heat and humidity gel (the best so far no matter the time of the year.)
unclefunkysdaughter.com – Curly magic (best during cooler months – Fall, Winter, Spring – I’m in Florida)
Style lasts 3 days. By the 3rd day my hair is poofier but the definition is still there.
What I find works for me is a heavy leave-in, seal with oil and use gel. Hair milk as a leave-in does not work for me (not enough moisture.) And not all gels have enough hold.
Other leave-ins that work for my type hair:
Myhoneychild.com – Honey hair cream
Mariedeanonline. – Apricot Mango leave-in conditioner
Karenbodybeautiful.com – Creamylicious
I’ve also had success with these holding products:
Curlprep.com – Sweet buttah
Entwinecouture.com – Jelle
Curljunkie.com – Pattern Pusha
These only give me one, sometimes 2-day hair if there’s low humidity.
I’ve tried a myriad of leave-in and styling products to find the combination that works for my hair. But one thing that is a constant, I must use a heavy leave-in to get any definition out of the gel.
And to combat build-up, I clarify my hair once a week with bentonite or rhassoul clay. I never have a waxy feeling and my DC always works.
HTH
daae
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Pompous Blue
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daae You're welcome.
Magical Clay..Bentonite Clay Hair Mask Treatment (updated)
http://allthingsonatural.blogspot.com/2012/06/bentonite-clay-hair-mask-treatment.html
I also use this recipe:
http://allthingsonatural.blogspot.com/2011/07/so-whats-rave-about-marshmallow-root.html
I mostly use the 2nd recipe and sometimes substitute rhassoul clay for the bentonite clay. I purchase my clays online 'cause no one sells it locally. I've read on here that Whole Foods sells it (I think it's called Indian healing clay.)
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