worldstar hip hop...Mom rubbing perm into girls scalp

[MsEveMarie]

OMG....this can't be real smh


And iono why but all those dirty dishes urked the crap outta me. I can't stand for a dish to be left in the sink, let alone doing hair next to em

 

[Anakinsmomma]

My Mom is where I learned all my unhealthy hair practices and she would NEVER let my scalp burn like that. Overlap with previously processed hair? Yes! Press in between perms? Yes! Let the cream touch my scalp? Never! As soon as there was a tingle it was straight to the sink.

 

[silenttullip]

lol I gotta b real after a few relaxers I'd sit there crying telling myself to take it like a woman while my momma was telling me to get my butt to the tub... My relaxers would never straighten my hair AT ALL unless it remained at least 15 minutes I only had burns once and without any forums my mother would NEVER rub a relaxer in my scalp I'd wonder if that mother wasn't trying to hurt her intentionally

 

[TeeMBL]

OMG....this can't be real smh


And iono why but all those dirty dishes urked the crap outta me. I can't stand for a dish to be left in the sink, let alone doing hair next to em

I'm the same way about doing my hair around dirty dishes, it makes me itch of something, like I'm allergic. I just feel so nasty and dirty.

 

[carameldelight87]

What degree of burn do you have to inflict on your child for it to count?



Schadenfreude does not become a virtue because a tv show allows folks to indulge their most base nature.

I'm not even gonna pretend I know what the second part of your comment says.

The fact that you went from relaxer burns to domestic violence is just...*sigh* I mean do I REALLY have to tell you that you're exaggerating?! Again..."C'mon, son!"

Ok, fine. Most of the time the person giving you a relaxer is who? A woman. So if a WOMAN is telling another WOMAN to take this "pain" like a WOMAN, how does that translate into taking "pain" from a MAN? If your response is "well you're encouraging her to endure pain when she really doesn't have to," well then couldn't you apply that to plenty of other painful yet voluntary activities, like sports, EXERCISE, walking in high heels...I'm just sayin. If we're gonna reach, fine, then let's REEEEEEEEACH. #kanyeshrug

 

[carameldelight87]

Wait, it's been a while but how exactly do you avoid getting relaxer on the scalp?! Do you leave a half inch of new growth out or something?!

Relaxer on the scalp is inevitable. Especially if you parting and smoothing in sections. The very act of you smoothing is actually pressing the relaxer into the scalp directly underneath the part you're smoothing.

 

[HauteHippie]

Wait, it's been a while but how exactly do you avoid getting relaxer on the scalp?! Do you leave a half inch of new growth out or something?!

Relaxer on the scalp is inevitable. Especially if you parting and smoothing in sections. The very act of you smoothing is actually pressing the relaxer into the scalp directly underneath the part you're smoothing.

Stop making sense!


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[AHeadOfCoils]

Wait, it's been a while but how exactly do you avoid getting relaxer on the scalp?! Do you leave a half inch of new growth out or something?!

Relaxer on the scalp is inevitable. Especially if you parting and smoothing in sections. The very act of you smoothing is actually pressing the relaxer into the scalp directly underneath the part you're smoothing.

My problem isn't w/ the smoothing part of applying a relaxer (I use to smoooove my ish out), but I'm mad that she's smoothing it while the girl is screaming. I would have started washing immediately. Once it starts to burn any more smoothing will more than likely result in scabs. I burned easily. The relaxer barely touched my scalp before I was on fire.

 

[Crackers Phinn]

I'm not even gonna pretend I know what the second part of your comment says.

The fact that you went from relaxer burns to domestic violence is just...*sigh* I mean do I REALLY have to tell you that you're exaggerating?! Again..."C'mon, son!"

Ok, fine. Most of the time the person giving you a relaxer is who? A woman. So if a WOMAN is telling another WOMAN to take this "pain" like a WOMAN, how does that translate into taking "pain" from a MAN? If your response is "well you're encouraging her to endure pain when she really doesn't have to," well then couldn't you apply that to plenty of other painful yet voluntary activities, like sports, EXERCISE, walking in high heels...I'm just sayin. If we're gonna reach, fine, then let's REEEEEEEEACH. #kanyeshrug

So you really go compare walking in high heels and exercising to getting your scalp burned? BTW -the burning scalp situation was anything but VOLUNTARY in the video?
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The words "domestic violence" or "taking pain from a man" are nowhere in my original post, but I'll roll witcha on the bolded.

When a WOMAN is telling her GIRL CHILD to take this "pain" like a WOMAN, what has she taught her child by example about what it means to be a woman and better yet how to nurture or treat loved ones? Moms allowing a dude to get his laugh on at her childs discomfort, hell tape the pain and throw it on yt to add insult to injury is not going to be forgotton. The internet will always be there to remind her.

Teaching your child to suffer and inflict suffering because that's just what women do is a gift of stupid that can and will affect how they deal with people in general, not just the Ike Turners of the world. Hell, how many times on this board have you heard somebody say women are always harder on other women?

 

[lilyofthenile]

*Sigh*.

This was really sad.

 

[Beautytalk69]

I'm sorry,but that wasn't even close to being funny..smh

 

[Poohbear]

I can't believe the mom keeps rubbing the relaxer into her daughter's scalp after rinsing with water and while wet!!! :burning:

If I was that girl, I would have pushed her off, ran to the bathroom, locked the door, and rinsed all that relaxer out myself.


When my mother used to relax my hair, when the burning started to become unbearable, she would take me to the sink to rinse it out with cold water.

 

[Tamster]

ughh the scabs on poor girl's scalp...

 

[carameldelight87]

So you really go compare walking in high heels and exercising to getting your scalp burned? BTW -the burning scalp situation was anything but VOLUNTARY in the video?
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The words "domestic violence" or "taking pain from a man" are nowhere in my original post, but I'll roll witcha on the bolded.

When a WOMAN is telling her GIRL CHILD to take this "pain" like a WOMAN, what has she taught her child by example about what it means to be a woman and better yet how to nurture or treat loved ones? Moms allowing a dude to get his laugh on at her childs discomfort, hell tape the pain and throw it on yt to add insult to injury is not going to be forgotton. The internet will always be there to remind her.

Teaching your child to suffer and inflict suffering because that's just what women do is a gift of stupid that can and will affect how they deal with people in general, not just the Ike Turners of the world. Hell, how many times on this board have you heard somebody say women are always harder on other women?

Wait, wait, WAIT! Are you seriously suggesting that it's absurd to compare enduring the pain of getting a relaxer (a voluntary treatment done JUST for beauty. In the video the mom says "YOU asked for this! You came to me and said mom I want a relaxer." So yes, it was voluntary.) to enduring the pain of high heels (ANOTHER voluntary action done JUST for beauty) which can cause SERIOUS foot problems not unlike a relaxer can cause serious scalp issues?!

But, it's perfectly ok to compare enduring relaxer burns to enduring domestic violence?! Am I in a haunted house of mirrors or something?!?!

By your very statement about the mother teaching her how to "nurture or treat loved ones," the notion that the daughter MAY repeat these same acts on her own child one day, may be reasonably inferred.

Also, you asked "how many times on this board have you heard somebody say women are always harder on other women?" MY POINT EXACTLY!! This incident is NOT going to teach her how to endure pain from men. It's going to teach her (if anything, because I actually think this is not as serious as y'all are making it) to be harder on women BECAUSE of the pain she endured. She'll probably tell other women to suck it up and "take it like a woman."

But it's absolutely ridiculous to stretch this event to mean SOOOO much more than it does.



It annoys me that just because some folks have read a few forum posts, watched a few Youtube videos, maybe read a book or two about hair that we suddenly impose "child abuse," "neglect," and just general "bad mothering," on any mother that does something you don't agree with.

Seriously, A LOT of our parents did and said the same things we're seeing now and we haven't disowned our parents or shunned them for their ignorance. We love them just as much as we did when they were slappin chemicals on our SCALP or callin our hair nappy and ugly. Get off of these mothers' backs and let THEM raise their children.

This girl was cryin in the video but how do you know she wasn't just being overly dramatic? Did any of you see a piece of hair fall?! Did you see steam flyin from her scalp?! No you didn't. I guarantee you when she got up and saw how slick those edges were, she was stuntin hard!

The brother laughed at his sister's pain. Since when is that shocking or unexpected?! I've laughed at my cousins fallin off sidewalks, bunkbeads, and all kinds of things. I laugh at my male cousins when they flinch after they have alcohol put on their head after a fresh cut!

Seriously, folks. Get off your uppity high horse and let these folks live.

 

[LaBelleLL]

Wait, wait, WAIT! Are you seriously suggesting that it's absurd to compare enduring the pain of getting a relaxer (a voluntary treatment done JUST for beauty. In the video the mom says "YOU asked for this! You came to me and said mom I want a relaxer." So yes, it was voluntary.) to enduring the pain of high heels (ANOTHER voluntary action done JUST for beauty) which can cause SERIOUS foot problems not unlike a relaxer can cause serious scalp issues?!

But, it's perfectly ok to compare enduring relaxer burns to enduring domestic violence?! Am I in a haunted house of mirrors or something?!?!

By your very statement about the mother teaching her how to "nurture or treat loved ones," the notion that the daughter MAY repeat these same acts on her own child one day, may be reasonably inferred.

Also, you asked "how many times on this board have you heard somebody say women are always harder on other women?" MY POINT EXACTLY!! This incident is NOT going to teach her how to endure pain from men. It's going to teach her (if anything, because I actually think this is not as serious as y'all are making it) to be harder on women BECAUSE of the pain she endured. She'll probably tell other women to suck it up and "take it like a woman."

But it's absolutely ridiculous to stretch this event to mean SOOOO much more than it does.



It annoys me that just because some folks have read a few forum posts, watched a few Youtube videos, maybe read a book or two about hair that we suddenly impose "child abuse," "neglect," and just general "bad mothering," on any mother that does something you don't agree with.

Seriously, A LOT of our parents did and said the same things we're seeing now and we haven't disowned our parents or shunned them for their ignorance. We love them just as much as we did when they were slappin chemicals on our SCALP or callin our hair nappy and ugly. Get off of these mothers' backs and let THEM raise their children.

This girl was cryin in the video but how do you know she wasn't just being overly dramatic? Did any of you see a piece of hair fall?! Did you see steam flyin from her scalp?! No you didn't. I guarantee you when she got up and saw how slick those edges were, she was stuntin hard!

The brother laughed at his sister's pain. Since when is that shocking or unexpected?! I've laughed at my cousins fallin off sidewalks, bunkbeads, and all kinds of things. I laugh at my male cousins when they flinch after they have alcohol put on their head after a fresh cut!

Seriously, folks. Get off your uppity high horse and let these folks live.

the bolded right there is saying and doing the most. i've never had a relaxer so I don't know what it's like to have a burned scalp but if it's true, the mother rubbing a chemical into her daughter's scalp is wrong. even if the child wanted it. improperly relaxing a child's hair is what it is. an unhealthy practice that posters are commenting on. it's not about being uppity or on a high horse. and what kinds of responses do you expect from LHCF? this is a forum of women dedicated to learning and adopting healthy hair practices. don't come here and call people uppity. take that elsewhere please. it's unnecessary.

 

[addaboutmyhair]

I got my first relaxer when I was 12, in a salon, a very nice salon. And when it burned, the hair dresser told me to 'just hold tight' because my hair wasn't straight yet. And yes, I was the one who demanded to get relaxed because I was tired of braids and then tired of that nappy, crazy looking pony tail (didn't know how to do my hair). So yes, I think people are over-reacting. Telling a child to essentially suck it up through a burning perm does not mean she's going to marry a man who beats her. At most it might mean she learns that beauty = pain, i.e. high heels, wearing that mini dress to the club in the winter, waxed eyebrows (or more, lol), etc.

I couldn't suck it up, went natural, now texlax. But people have blown this way out of proportion. Especially those out there who are oh so shocked at one sibling making fun of another's discomfort. Even if you don't have a brother, have you ever observed a brother and sister, like anywhere at all? lol

 

[carameldelight87]

i've never had a relaxer so I don't know what it's like...

...no discussion necessary. #kanyeshrug

 

[trendsetta25]

i feel her pain....i once got a relaxer done forgetting i put some oil in my hair which had sulfur....everything was cool....then....

my scalp burned so bad it started to bleed. not a good experience. thank GOD i didn't have a setback.

I learned my lesson...poor thing

 

[nappystorm]

the bolded right there is saying and doing the most. i've never had a relaxer so I don't know what it's like to have a burned scalp but if it's true, the mother rubbing a chemical into her daughter's scalp is wrong. even if the child wanted it. improperly relaxing a child's hair is what it is. an unhealthy practice that posters are commenting on. it's not about being uppity or on a high horse. and what kinds of responses do you expect from LHCF? this is a forum of women dedicated to learning and adopting healthy hair practices. don't come here and call people uppity. take that elsewhere please. it's unnecessary.

ITA. And I personally think it DOES speak to her mothering skills. The girl is obviously hurting and screaming and the mother is telling her to "take it like a woman". Common sense should tell her it's time to STOP. I've gotten relaxers over 13 years in my mom's kitchen and that has NEVER happened to me because my mom cares more about ME than some dang straight hair. And this was years before the hairboards.

 

[Vshanell]

Was this really a relaxer? It was being rinsed out all into the child's eyes and everything.

 

[Platinum]

Wait, wait, WAIT! Are you seriously suggesting that it's absurd to compare enduring the pain of getting a relaxer (a voluntary treatment done JUST for beauty. In the video the mom says "YOU asked for this! You came to me and said mom I want a relaxer." So yes, it was voluntary.) to enduring the pain of high heels (ANOTHER voluntary action done JUST for beauty) which can cause SERIOUS foot problems not unlike a relaxer can cause serious scalp issues?!

But, it's perfectly ok to compare enduring relaxer burns to enduring domestic violence?! Am I in a haunted house of mirrors or something?!?!

By your very statement about the mother teaching her how to "nurture or treat loved ones," the notion that the daughter MAY repeat these same acts on her own child one day, may be reasonably inferred.

Also, you asked "how many times on this board have you heard somebody say women are always harder on other women?" MY POINT EXACTLY!! This incident is NOT going to teach her how to endure pain from men. It's going to teach her (if anything, because I actually think this is not as serious as y'all are making it) to be harder on women BECAUSE of the pain she endured. She'll probably tell other women to suck it up and "take it like a woman."

But it's absolutely ridiculous to stretch this event to mean SOOOO much more than it does.



It annoys me that just because some folks have read a few forum posts, watched a few Youtube videos, maybe read a book or two about hair that we suddenly impose "child abuse," "neglect," and just general "bad mothering," on any mother that does something you don't agree with.

Seriously, A LOT of our parents did and said the same things we're seeing now and we haven't disowned our parents or shunned them for their ignorance. We love them just as much as we did when they were slappin chemicals on our SCALP or callin our hair nappy and ugly. Get off of these mothers' backs and let THEM raise their children.

This girl was cryin in the video but how do you know she wasn't just being overly dramatic? Did any of you see a piece of hair fall?! Did you see steam flyin from her scalp?! No you didn't. I guarantee you when she got up and saw how slick those edges were, she was stuntin hard!

The brother laughed at his sister's pain. Since when is that shocking or unexpected?! I've laughed at my cousins fallin off sidewalks, bunkbeads, and all kinds of things. I laugh at my male cousins when they flinch after they have alcohol put on their head after a fresh cut!

Seriously, folks. Get off your uppity high horse and let these folks live.

While I agree with most of what you're saying, I just want to address the bolded. I seriously doubt if the girl was being overly dramatic. I had a family member swear that she could give me a good perm. (My hair is super thick, coarse, and resistant). She applied the relaxer, smooth, etc. everything was okay until she washed it out. I had a patch that was under processed so she decided to apply a glob of relaxer to that area.:burning: I screamed in pain, pushed her out of the way, and ran back to the sink to wash it out.

My point is that my scalp couldn't stand the relaxer being re-applied immediately after being washed out. If you all notice, the mom applies the relaxer in the same manner. I hope you guys understand what I mean.

Just my

 

[LaBelleLL]

...no discussion necessary. #kanyeshrug

b/c I haven't had a perm, i can't comment? and you say everyone else are on "high horses"? you're a law student. you should clearly see the flaw in that logic.

 

[Poohbear]

Was this really a relaxer? It was being rinsed out all into the child's eyes and everything.

:scratchch Hmmm... I didn't think about that. That could have been conditioner and these people could have been acting and pretending like she was getting a relaxer just to make a video on worldstarhiphop...

 

[DDTexlaxed]

I hope and pray that it is not common to rub relaxer into your child's scalp while they scream and cry out in pain. Any mother with an ounce of sense would know that's a bad idea. You don't need LHCF to figure that one out

I've seen this in my life many too times to count. A lot of women where I lived did not know how to do proper relaxer retouches. My mom used to relax my hair root to tip each time she relaxed and every 8 weeks. Yet my hair was strait,long and looked healthy. So many women think you have to leave a relaxer in until it burns- and even then you have to smooth it out. It is a very common belief, even though it is incorrect. If you try to correct them, they just tell you that they know what they're doing and give you the look.

 

[BrookeLynn]

Applying a relaxer to new growth and rubbing it into the scalp are two different things. This mother was clearly rubbing relaxer on to an irritated, wet scalp. I'm surprised that girls hairline isn't starting behind her ears.

 

[Guitarhero]

I distinctly heard the mother say that she had to finish it because she couldn't reapply later on. well, not the best technique, for sure but I don't see where this is gross child abuse. Plus, the daughter was uber dramatic in the beginning. They are both dramatic. It's obvious it was burning her. Maybe they should go natural or get a press 'n curl? It's rough, but it's not that rough, imho.

 

[Crackers Phinn]

Seriously, folks. Get off your uppity high horse and let these folks live.

If expressing concern/disgust over triflin behavior puts me on a high horse, then giddy up, high ho silver,etc.

I don't understand your pro burnin the chillun stance and I don't want to.

 

[Crackers Phinn]

ITA. And I personally think it DOES speak to her mothering skills. The girl is obviously hurting and screaming and the mother is telling her to "take it like a woman". Common sense should tell her it's time to STOP.

Naw, that's the mama of the year up in that piece. STOP, MAMA IT BURNS really means THIS FEELS GOOD! Folks just ain't knowin.

 

[Platinum]

While I agree with most of what you're saying, I just want to address the bolded. I seriously doubt if the girl was being overly dramatic. I had a family member swear that she could give me a good perm. (My hair is super thick, coarse, and resistant). She applied the relaxer, smooth, etc. everything was okay until she washed it out. I had a patch that was under processed so she decided to apply a glob of relaxer to that area.:burning: I screamed in pain, pushed her out of the way, and ran back to the sink to wash it out.

My point is that my scalp couldn't stand the relaxer being re-applied immediately after being washed out. If you all notice, the mom applies the relaxer in the same manner. I hope you guys understand what I mean.

Just my

My point in this post: WET SCALP+ CAUSTIC CHEMICALS= BURNS LIKE HELL. This is why I think the girl wasn't being overly dramatic.

 

[Vshanell]

:scratchch Hmmm... I didn't think about that. That could have been conditioner and these people could have been acting and pretending like she was getting a relaxer just to make a video on worldstarhiphop...

Something didn't seem right too me because it running all down the childs face and into her eyes. I would think she would be screaming in pain about her eyes more so than her scalp if this were perm.