worldstar hip hop...Mom rubbing perm into girls scalp

[nysister]

This is so incredibly sad and is one of the reasons I wouldn't let someone else take care of my child. What I consider disgusting and abusive, some people shrug off and say "well it happens to everyone." That's why everyone shouldn't be in your circle of friends or even acquaintances.

 

[carameldelight87]

b/c I haven't had a perm, i can't comment? and you say everyone else are on "high horses"? you're a law student. you should clearly see the flaw in that logic.

Did you actually read my comment you were responding to? It was mostly responding to those of us who HAVE HAD relaxers in the past. Which is why I said, there's no discussion necessary, if you haven't had a relaxer.

I wasn't saying you couldn't comment. Clearly, you can do what you want. I was simply saying there's no need for me to go back and forth with you since you won't see my perspective SINCE you've never had a relaxer before...but since you wanted my attention, here you go. erplexed

 

[carameldelight87]

If expressing concern/disgust over triflin behavior puts me on a high horse, then giddy up, high ho silver,etc.

I don't understand your pro burnin the chillun stance and I don't want to.

Wow, nice way to completely misrepresent my comments. It's like calling pro-choice, "pro-abortion." Good job.

 

[DrC]

And she didn't even clean the damn kitchen....all dem dirty a$s dishes in the sink catching perm residue and sh!t.

 

[carameldelight87]

My point in this post: WET SCALP+ CAUSTIC CHEMICALS= BURNS LIKE HELL. This is why I think the girl wasn't being overly dramatic.

I thought water soothes the burning? I also didn't see the mother ADD any more of the relaxer. I was just under the impression that she was still smoothing while the girl was under the water. I could be wrong, I watched the video some days ago.

If you're rubbing the relaxer while under the water, wouldn't that be also helping to remove the chemical? I remember trying to massage the relaxer out of my hair while under the water.

I'm not saying she IS being overly dramatic, I'm just saying it's a possibility. Some folks around here act like they've never seen a child protest to getting their hair done. I'm not saying you should ignore the complaining but this reminds me of another video of a little girl getting a press, folks were goin nuts cuz the little girl was cryin. But how isn't that normal? I guess we're just sensitive to cryin children.

Or as some would like to believe, I'm just a cold-hearted person who wants to burn all the children of the world with relaxers and hot combs.

 

[Poohbear]

I thought water soothes the burning? I also didn't see the mother ADD any more of the relaxer. I was just under the impression that she was still smoothing while the girl was under the water. I could be wrong, I watched the video some days ago.

If you're rubbing the relaxer while under the water, wouldn't that be also helping to remove the chemical? I remember trying to massage the relaxer out of my hair while under the water.

carameldelight87 - Yes. She was definitely adding more relaxer to her hair while the girl was trying to rinse it out. The white stuff could have been conditioner but I'm most certain it was relaxer (that's if it really was relaxer to begin with since this could have been just an act to put on worldstarhiphop).

 

[BrookeLynn]

If you listen to the what the mother is saying on the video, she states she was trying to work the relaxer into the front of her hair (while she was saying that she was pressing and rubbing relaxer into the front of the girls head). Meanwhile, the girl had water running along the back of the her neck to try to wash the relaxer out. The mother even yelled out at one point "You're washing too much of it out!" indicating that she wanted to rub even more despite the fact that her child was howling in pain.

The whole video was disgusting in my opinion. I'm natural (about 98% natural, I'm clipping off a few remaining relaxed ends next month at 2 years post) but my daughters are both relaxed. I constantly ask them "Is it burning?" as I apply the relaxer, and all the need to say is "It's burning" one time and we are headed to the sink. Since I know how to properly apply relaxer at that point I have already applied it to all their new growth and am smoothing the hairs with the applicator brush. Their hair is never under processed and they never get burns.

 

[05girl]

I was dying at the way they were lathering the perm all over the hair instead of only targeting the new growth. Yeah her hair is not long for this world....

 

[BrookeLynn]

ITA! My mom used to relax my hair from root to tip each time. My hair went from waist length to broken off shoulder length in the course of a few years. I didn't learn about only relaxing new growth until high school because I had a friend who was in cosmetology school. But I remember one day she was relaxing my hair and another friend was over and kept telling her "Put some relaxer on those ends!" and "I don't know girl, her ends look really bad. Put a little perm on them". So apparently it wasn't just my mom who didn't know protocol.

 

[sweetdreams23]

ITA! My mom used to relax my hair from root to tip each time. My hair went from waist length to broken off shoulder length in the course of a few years. I didn't learn about only relaxing new growth until high school because I had a friend who was in cosmetology school. But I remember one day she was relaxing my hair and another friend was over and kept telling her "Put some relaxer on those ends!" and "I don't know girl, her ends look really bad. Put a little perm on them". So apparently it wasn't just my mom who didn't know protocol.

How did the cosmetology friend take those remarks? Did she try to educate the other friend on why she was only placing relaxer on the new growth?


My impression from the video, is that the mother didn't really know what she was doing....like she was imitating what she's seen and figured she could do it too.

...I think back to the time I had friends who "thought" they could style my then natural hair...

...it would all go down hill once they washed and conditioned my hair.

 

[MsLi@512]

Saw this video a while ago and I thought is was fishy then, and I still think it's fishy now. What BW would let relaxer go all in her sink on her dishes, and the relaxer running down the girls face.. hmm.... I think it was meant to get a rise out of folks due to the whole "natural is the only way to go and here's proof" movement. JMHO!

 

[DDTexlaxed]

Saw this video a while ago and I thought is was fishy then, and I still think it's fishy now. What BW would let relaxer go all in her sink on her dishes, and the relaxer running down the girls face.. hmm.... I think it was meant to get a rise out of folks due to the whole "natural is the only way to go and here's proof" movement. JMHO!

Yeah, this video pops up every 6 months, it seems. I do know several people who relax with dishes in their sinks and they MUST relax same time every 5 weeks. It's a weird type of OCD.

 

[BrookeLynn]

How did the cosmetology friend take those remarks? Did she try to educate the other friend on why she was only placing relaxer on the new growth?

I remember there was a back and forth "argument" so to speak. My cosmetology friend kept trying to explain to our other friend that my ends were already relaxed and that they didn't need to be relaxed again but because they were weathered and damaged our other friend automatically equated that with being nappy and felt they needed to be smoothed out. I am so glad we collectively are practicing better techniques with relaxers. So many women and girls were walking around with damaged shoulder length hair who didn't need to be.

 

[Qualitee]

Im just glad that my relaxer days are over.

 

[againstallodds]

No lie... this made me tear up. I pray she doesn't suffer serious damage.

 

[Platinum]

I thought water soothes the burning? I also didn't see the mother ADD any more of the relaxer. I was just under the impression that she was still smoothing while the girl was under the water. I could be wrong, I watched the video some days ago.

If you're rubbing the relaxer while under the water, wouldn't that be also helping to remove the chemical? I remember trying to massage the relaxer out of my hair while under the water.

I'm not saying she IS being overly dramatic, I'm just saying it's a possibility. Some folks around here act like they've never seen a child protest to getting their hair done. I'm not saying you should ignore the complaining but this reminds me of another video of a little girl getting a press, folks were goin nuts cuz the little girl was cryin. But how isn't that normal? I guess we're just sensitive to cryin children.

Or as some would like to believe, I'm just a cold-hearted person who wants to burn all the children of the world with relaxers and hot combs.

Trust me. It doesn't really soothe the scalp like that. There's a different between applying the relaxer on a dry scalp, then rinsing vs applying relaxer on a wet scalp.:burning:

I don't remember the pressing video but I think I remember a hair brushing video where at one point the mother pins her daughter down, straddling her, to continue brushing her hair. She also yells at the little girl saying things like "I'm trying to make you look like somebody" and "You ain't got no daddy". (This after the little girl continued to cry and say she wanted her daddy). I don't believe people were upset because of the child crying, they were upset at how the mother treated the child: ripping the brush through the child's hair, straddling her. etc. In my opinion, the mom in that video needed her a$$ kicked.

I don't believe that everyone is sensitive to crying children because of the point that they're crying. I'm sure we all cried when getting our hair done when we were little. However, I think a lot of people are appalled at the rough treatment of the child's hair in some of these videos being posted. There has to be a degree of common sense when doing hair and the ladies in these videos don't have it.

I don't understand the point of posting those types of videos anyway.*shrug*

 

[carameldelight87]

Trust me. It doesn't really soothe the scalp like that. There's a different between applying the relaxer on a dry scalp, then rinsing vs applying relaxer on a wet scalp.:burning:

I don't remember the pressing video but I think I remember a hair brushing video where at one point the mother pins her daughter down, straddling her, to continue brushing her hair. She also yells at the little girl saying things like "I'm trying to make you look like somebody" and "You ain't got no daddy". (This after the little girl continued to cry and say she wanted her daddy). I don't believe people were upset because of the child crying, they were upset at how the mother treated the child: ripping the brush through the child's hair, straddling her. etc. In my opinion, the mom in that video needed her a$$ kicked.

I don't believe that everyone is sensitive to crying children because of the point that they're crying. I'm sure we all cried when getting our hair done when we were little. However, I think a lot of people are appalled at the rough treatment of the child's hair in some of these videos being posted. There has to be a degree of common sense when doing hair and the ladies in these videos don't have it.

I don't understand the point of posting those types of videos anyway.*shrug*

I think I remember the video you're talking about. I saw it on Youtube. I was pissed as HELL while watchin that video. I was ready to fight myself. She was just RIPPING thru that poor childs hair with that paddle brush. There were no sections, she was just brushing it all forward and not actually detangling the girls hair! It was like watching torture. It wasn't even the girls crying in that. Crying children don't move me. It's when the acts of the mother are so blatantly misguided and abusive that I get upset.

In this video, I didn't see any abuse. It also didn't look "blatantly misguided." It looked like your average level of "ignorance" when it comes to relaxers. I did my own relaxers a few times and I remember having relaxer from root to tip. When other people did my relaxers I used to try to "take" the burn so I didn't seem like a punk or tender-headed and plus I wanted those edges straight. This woman did not force the girl to keep the relaxer in her hair, she was trying to work it in.

I just watched the video again and the mother did NOT put any more relaxer into the girls hair, she was just smoothing. And I'm sorry the girl DOES seem dramatic to me. She was yelling at her mom about having the hot water on meanwhile she's laughing at her brother taping her and trying to fake like she's upset. The she does some shrieking noise and goes quiet. She only screamed a couple times and she was quiet for most of the 3 minutes. This just was not sad at all. And I'm seriously wondering how folks are getting so upset when the people in the video (including the alleged "victim) are laughing!!